Absolution -- Dynamis Zone Sniping

[Fresita]

@ Amerie, It would be a wise thing to keep my name off your post. thanks!

 

[Kayu]

Let me clarify after reading my post, so people dont call me two-faced.

There are people on there that I consider friends. I really do. I wouldn’t not be someone’s friend just because they cheat in a video game.

However, when their UNFAIR advantages outweigh my fair attempts, I will report it in game just as I would irl. Doesn’t mean I'm not their friend. I dont judge people on shells, pearls, gear, whatever.

My opinion is, if they aren't botting, they have nothing to worry about it. They are in fact with a group of people who are cheating and when you hang with that you have to deal with being under suspicion. If you’re not, you have nothing to worry about.

It doesn’t say I’m not their friend because I report them but vise versa. Friends fonr cheat VS one another. Doesn’t change my point of view on some of them as people. I know as people they are good people. As player? Not so much. They might say its not personal, to which I would say the same if they get banned. It’s really not.

It’s not personal and I just hope people can understand, when you cheat you are screwing someone else over. Friends don’t do that to each other so if people consider me not a friend based on this, I could say the same thing.

I try not to judge people by who they hang around but a friend wouldn’t support another person cheating over their friend. Let alone help them. So that’s where I stand on that. Sorry for tripple post.. Really need edit buttons….

so by your Incredibly stupid logic everyone who joins absolution bots, thats impressive i must say ive been on the ls 3 weeks never did a claim, infact i cannot even see the bloody mob since the lag kills me and i am endgame hard botter.

seriously i dont have a beef with you, or even know you but i think you are just a little whinny bitch from what ive been reading all these 60+ pages, trying to be humanitarian, trying to be neutral when you obviously hate one side of the coin, i mean if you put your friends on a list means they werent much of your friends afterall, since botting isnt a matter of life and dead, they didnt kill someone or raped someone.


and yeah my grammar is crappy xD.

 

[Caerloc]

so by your Incredibly stupid logic everyone who joins absolution bots, thats impressive i must say ive been on the ls 3 weeks never did a claim, infact i cannot even see the bloody mob since the lag kills me and i am endgame hard botter.

It's called guilty by association. It's a common thing in real life. Dont be suprised cause its a common thing in a game played by real people to. Like i said earlier, the people who knowingly joins a shell that bots, while refusing to bot themselves are actually worse. You want the perks of a bot, but dont have the balls to do it. Thats just weak.

 

[Kayu]

It's called guilty by association. It's a common thing in real life. Dont be suprised cause its a common thing in a game played by real people to. Like i said earlier, the people who knowingly joins a shell that bots, while refusing to bot themselves are actually worse. You want the perks of a bot, but dont have the balls to do it. Thats just weak.

yeah and since we control the ingame the same as irl its the fucking same srlslrls.

 

[Raesvelg]

SE has already shown a willingness to impose collective responsibility on cheaters, actually. Famous case of a LS speed hacking at Kirin and everyone there being jailed simultaneously.

 

[Kayu]

SE has already shown a willingness to impose collective responsibility on cheaters, actually. Famous case of a LS speed hacking at Kirin and everyone there being jailed simultaneously.

more like the GM couldnt proove the ones that where speed hacking at the moment and went for the next logical crappy choice, Jail all.

 

[Myrrh]

More like GMs banning people who salvaged dup'd and anyone who benefited/was in the party.

 

[Raesvelg]

more like the GM couldnt proove the ones that where speed hacking at the moment and went for the next logical crappy choice, Jail all.

No, the GM in question watched the procedure for some time, and fully explained his reasoning for the jailing.

The members of the LS were aware of the activities of the cheaters, and were guilty by association.

 

[Aced]

Also, LOL at all of the ex-Nirvana people in this thread trying to take the moral highroad. Both of you agreed to botting and either did it, or would have done it if given the chance. You don't need to come to QCDN badmouthing us as some sort of repentance for your MMO sins.

I'm not trying to take a "Moral Highroad" I said I had access to the bot, ya I planned on using it, sure it's "Against the rules" who cares.

Yeah I joined a shell that I knew botted, wouldn't be the first time. So many people think joining a shell that bots, and not botting themselves makes it ok. You joined knowing you will benefit from such a bot, so it's the same damn thing.

Like Caerloc said, it's guilty by association. Not saying it's ok, or not ok. Was just stating that "hey yeah I had it, and planned to use it." So yeah, sure that makes me just as guilty as anyone else who bots.

For the record I originally started out on Quetz, in my opinion i have every right to post my opinion on here as you do Mansin.

Since i only said things about absolution people, and that you took offense to what I said, i'm assuming you're in that Linkshell. Don't come onto Quetzalcoatl boards when you transferred here (Unless of course you are a Quetz native who jumped on the Absolution band wagon, which in any case I haven't heard of you in my 3.5 years on Quetz so i'm assuming not.) to "run our server" and talk about moral highroads when you're just as guilty as I was.

 

[Linhjah]

FFS, how many times do people have to say that Mansin is not and never was in Absolution? Its been posted at least 10 different times.

 

[Caerloc]

yeah and since we control the ingame the same as irl its the fucking same srlslrls.

why do you think people will treat it differently in a game? You piss on their funtime, they will disslike you. You try to play innocent with your "Hey i dont bot, i just have friends botting for my benefit". Noone is buying it.

 

[Kayu]

why do you think people will treat it differently in a game? You piss on their funtime, they will disslike you. You try to play innocent with your "Hey i dont bot, i just have friends botting for my benefit". Noone is buying it.

does it seems like i am person who cares for other botting? we been there before people bot period, if you dont know if i do at least i fucking expect to give the benefit of the doubt and dont hear people say "you fucking botter since you joined a ls that bots! you bot period!." like that little bitch amerie or w/e his/her name is.

 

[metachronism]

does it seems like i am person who cares for other botting? we been there before people bot period, if you dont know if i do at least i fucking expect to give the benefit of the doubt and dont hear people say "you fucking botter since you joined a ls that bots! you bot period!." like that little bitch amerie or w/e his/her name is.

The point that most people have been making is that whether you personally bot doesn't matter. You are in a group of people who collectively benefit from what most players consider cheating, and therefore you are collectively viewed as pieces of shit.

I'm sorry, but you need to realize that no one really cares about you, the individual. They just see a bunch of people, all wearing the same pearl, some of which openly say they bot, so by all intents and purposes, that pearl you wear becomes a scarlet letter B. That's the end of the story.

I mean, why should anyone bother to individually sort you out? What makes you think you are so high on everyone's care meter that they'd give you the benefit of the doubt? At worst, you bot. At best, you condone it. At the end of the day, whichever you are, you all go in the bin labeled "shit" so it's a waste of time even thinking about it.

Voming out and trying to defend your name saying "but *I* don't do it" is fruitless, and will not change anyone's opinion of you, (that is, you, the LS--no one here probably even knows who the fuck your character is, nor cares).

 

[Kayu]

The point that most people have been making is that whether you personally bot doesn't matter. You are in a group of people who collectively benefit from what most players consider cheating, and therefore you are collectively viewed as pieces of shit.

I'm sorry, but you need to realize that no one really cares about you, the individual. They just see a bunch of people, all wearing the same pearl, some of which openly say they bot, so by all intents and purposes, that pearl you wear becomes a scarlet letter B. That's the end of the story.

I mean, why should anyone bother to individually sort you out? What makes you think you are so high on everyone's care meter that they'd give you the benefit of the doubt? At worst, you bot. At best, you condone it. At the end of the day, whichever you are, you all go in the bin labeled "shit" so it's a waste of time even thinking about it.

Voming out and trying to defend your name saying "but *I* don't do it" is fruitless, and will not change anyone's opinion of you, (that is, you, the LS--no one here probably even knows who the fuck your character is, nor cares).

then again you bring a point up, if no ones cares for your oppinion, who thinks anyone cares about yours?
if someone cares about me its fucking me and some people that know me(i hope), if some words will at least lead me to the oposite then why no write it, doesnt really matter on how most people see me or see my ls, if a few think otherwise then it was all worth it, so even if most of ls's on this server think we are shit, it doesnt really matter how they cry, shit will keep getting claimed and killed by the same ls you are bitching from 60 pages now, as you say at worst i bot, at best i condone or dont give a fuck about it, in the end who is the one benefiting from those? when SE dont ban anyone you will cry and bitch more about, why? because karma didnt hit the ls that was bad, when we know bad or good ls's are relative to the person thinking about them.

 

[Sevv]

Wow you know up until the Amerie (sp, sorry I didn't go back and look how to spell your name), there was a post in our forums to knock the shit off. People were told to stop posting stupid drama filled posts on any forums. The majority minus one person followed it. You bring my name into this when I have done nothing but try to connect with people on Quetz in the non-asshole behavior. You bring my name into reporting and you personally crossed a line with me. My sister Svetlanna has never botted and never will, she is in the linkshell to play with me, when she is not in school. I have met some nice people here on a personal level, but this again is making me want to just take a step back from coming to any type of agreement with the community. When I lead, any dynamis event when leaders have real life events I followed the calender to stop drama. I don't talk shit in say or tell, nor have attacked anyone personally unless first attacked. Sorry Quetz but I am done trying to stop any shit, since it has done nothing but get me reported by people.

 

[Mansin]

The special task force will never do anything. Your name being on that list as as dangerous as your phone number being written on a bench at a park.

How many times do you think people who weren't blatantly obvious RMT have been reported? How many times do you think they've been banned? The number is probably close to zero. In fact, I'd be surprised if it were even in the double digits.

 

[Mansin]

is as dangerous*

 

[hellstorm]

why do you think people will treat it differently in a game? You piss on their funtime, they will disslike you. You try to play innocent with your "Hey i dont bot, i just have friends botting for my benefit". Noone is buying it.

Your roomate stole a tv from a store would you turn them in? You friend brings over 9 oz of weed you going call the cops? Cable company does not turn your cable off, you going call them? I think not the fact is only on a game do people identity change and they become assholes because at the end day the peps has no idea who you are.

 

[Caerloc]

Your roomate stole a tv from a store would you turn them in? You friend brings over 9 oz of weed you going call the cops? Cable company does not turn your cable off, you going call them?

No i wouldnt. But i wouldnt cry, and say it was unfair if people called me a criminal either.

 

[Marajade]

No i wouldnt. But i wouldnt cry, and say it was unfair if people called me a criminal either.

Thus, the point. Of course you're not gonna turn your buddy in if he stole a TV. Guess what, you're still in legal shit if he gets caught and you knew about it/used the TV.