Absolution = Vanquished? O.o

[Sifade]

You missed the point completely. We're human, humans are constantly looking for advancements to help them out, looking beyond limitations. It's no different in a game or real world. We want to constantly stretch the boundaries. Windower does that for this game.

I'm sorry, but when you start comparing botting in a video game to things that are the equivilant of walking on the moon, there is something seriously wrong.

And of course my response was sarcastic, but you took it literally so that you would have a basepoint to continue to defend what you're doing.

Your point of view is wrong, you're attempting to justify something 5 year old would tell you is wrong (stealing), and that's all.

There is no reason to explain yourself. You just need to continue doing what you need to do, and the server will continue doing what they're doing (having no respect for any member of your shell). End of story.

 

[Hobobob]

There is no reason to explain yourself. You just need to continue doing what you need to do, and the server will continue doing what they're doing (having no respect for any member of your shell). End of story.

Shit, I didn't realize I was speaking with someone who spoke for the whole server. Other then the few people who log on here to bitch about us for the most part I'd say the rest of the server doesn't mind us. We've made a lot of friends on this server, made our fair share of enemies as well but it's to be expected.

We accomplish things for people on this server who might not have the time to do it themselves, and many many many of them are very grateful for what we do.

 

[Snowballx]

I think everyone should stop arguing about the bot thing cause it obviously isn't going to change.. Until SE decides to ban everyone who is using them. SE is not stupid they know who bots they surely have programs advanced enough to know what's going on, but it's all about money so they don't bother, nor do they care unless someone is stupid and is like "zomg we bot hey". I don't know why all these people are even coming on the forums saying their shells botted/ or currently has a bot cause it's ridiculous.

Happy Halloween~ <3

 

[Taint]

Did read the bolded part properly?? I mean IN GAME not in real life kiddo.

Honestly, we are, yet again, beating a dead horse. You folks will never see the error of your ways, and none of us here will ever accept botting as a good way to do things. Lets agree to disagree and leave it at that.

P.S. Just one request, keep the douchiness to yourselves, had all that dynamis sniping and other bullshit not happened, y'all wouldnt be in the crosshairs all the damn time.

Do you read what you write? Honestly?

"Dynamis Zone Sniping."
Several shells on Quetz use a Dynamis Calendar. It is in no way, shape, or form a requirement to use so. I could understand if someone had agreed to use it, and then turned around and did this. Absolution never agreed to, and quite honestly have no reason to agree to. Dynamis scheduling is pretty pointless imo, even moreso for shells that like to be flexible (ie, someone needing a fragment/test and not having the run planned a month in advance, someone new needing a CoP win, etc.). You may use it as a "point of courtesy," but you cannot turn around and cry, bitch, and moan at people who decide not to do so.

 

[Saocide]

Do you read what you write? Honestly?

"Dynamis Zone Sniping."
Several shells on Quetz use a Dynamis Calendar. It is in no way, shape, or form a requirement to use so. I could understand if someone had agreed to use it, and then turned around and did this. Absolution never agreed to, and quite honestly have no reason to agree to. Dynamis scheduling is pretty pointless imo, even moreso for shells that like to be flexible (ie, someone needing a fragment/test and not having the run planned a month in advance, someone new needing a CoP win, etc.). You may use it as a "point of courtesy," but you cannot turn around and cry, bitch, and moan at people who decide not to do so.

Do you not read whats been said a million times? Honestly?

Also goes for this incredibly stupid bot argument that happens every time. A little over half a DECADE and the same shit is once again talked about. People should just go ahead and make a rant thread about botting cause everyones arguments ALWAYS...ALWAYS fall on deaf ears. I thought this thread was about some gimps changing shells? The question was answered.

 

[Basellios]

wow guys it's only one shell and besides it's not like anyone else is there to claim the hnms, i mean.. i don't see anyone shouting in aht urgan saying all items free lot lets gather @ faffy and keel!. anyway kinda feel bad for the ppl that see vanquished as a threat tho they clearly are, but only because ppl can't get dedicated ppl together.
/em does the robot
"OH, no! another bot!", "But wait...he's from umbra pulsum!!?"

 

[Myrrh]

Do you read what you write? Honestly?

"Dynamis Zone Sniping."
Several shells on Quetz use a Dynamis Calendar. It is in no way, shape, or form a requirement to use so. I could understand if someone had agreed to use it, and then turned around and did this. Absolution never agreed to, and quite honestly have no reason to agree to. Dynamis scheduling is pretty pointless imo, even moreso for shells that like to be flexible (ie, someone needing a fragment/test and not having the run planned a month in advance, someone new needing a CoP win, etc.). You may use it as a "point of courtesy," but you cannot turn around and cry, bitch, and moan at people who decide not to do so.

Ya, fuck order. Let's all just do dynamis whenever we want and which ever zone we want. If people don't make it too a zone then they should have entered 2 hours sooner to claim the zone.

 

[Taint]

Ya, fuck order. Let's all just do dynamis whenever we want and which ever zone we want. If people don't make it too a zone then they should have entered 2 hours sooner to claim the zone.

Yes, lets.

God forbid anyone else does it that way. Every single server has and has always had a QCDN with a Dynamis schedule to organize their Dynamis zones for them.

Pull your head out of your ass. Competition is an aspect of endgame. If x number of shells that use QCDN got together and decided they didn't want to compete for zones and made this nice calendar, good for them. Yeehaw. Expecting everyone else to follow your house rules with no clear incentive for them is absolutely ridiculous. Its arrogant and stupid. I know if I had to schedule zones and was stuck doing cities consistently, I'd stop using a schedule as well. It might get you the zone you want most of the time, but other times you'll be cornered into a shitty city for no identifiable reason to give other shells "their turn."

SE designed the game the way they did, and people are entitled to enter any free Dynamis zone at any time. You don't have to like it, but bitching about it and throwing insults at people certainly isn't ever going to get it changed. Learn to live with it or change your policies/methods.

 

[Jeska]

Yes, lets.

God forbid anyone else does it that way. Every single server has and has always had a QCDN with a Dynamis schedule to organize their Dynamis zones for them.

Pull your head out of your ass. Competition is an aspect of endgame. If x number of shells that use QCDN got together and decided they didn't want to compete for zones and made this nice calendar, good for them. Yeehaw. Expecting everyone else to follow your house rules with no clear incentive for them is absolutely ridiculous. Its arrogant and stupid. I know if I had to schedule zones and was stuck doing cities consistently, I'd stop using a schedule as well. It might get you the zone you want most of the time, but other times you'll be cornered into a shitty city for no identifiable reason to give other shells "their turn."

You'd be cornered into a shitty city a lot more often if all the other shells decided "Screw this schedule crap lets just do whatever zone we want when we want" Everyone will do northlands cause thats what everyone wants, we do towns to allow new players to catch up and allow others to have a go up north.

There must be like 15 shells that contribute to this and its a shame more dont because we all have to live and co-exist in this small world together, be nice if we tried to get along with each other.

 

[Myrrh]

Yes, lets.

God forbid anyone else does it that way. Every single server has and has always had a QCDN with a Dynamis schedule to organize their Dynamis zones for them.

Pull your head out of your ass. Competition is an aspect of endgame. If x number of shells that use QCDN got together and decided they didn't want to compete for zones and made this nice calendar, good for them. Yeehaw. Expecting everyone else to follow your house rules with no clear incentive for them is absolutely ridiculous. Its arrogant and stupid. I know if I had to schedule zones and was stuck doing cities consistently, I'd stop using a schedule as well. It might get you the zone you want most of the time, but other times you'll be cornered into a shitty city for no identifiable reason to give other shells "their turn."

SE designed the game the way they did, and people are entitled to enter any free Dynamis zone at any time. You don't have to like it, but bitching about it and throwing insults at people certainly isn't ever going to get it changed. Learn to live with it or change your policies/methods.

SE "designed" the game the way it is cause they play this game by ear. They have no over all plan for anything they do and nor do they think about how what they add will affect the player base.
You should change your name from Taint to Twat.

Ps: Insults are fun.

 

[Lecreuset]

Expecting everyone else to follow your house rules with no clear incentive for them is absolutely ridiculous.

QFT.

Botting/Exploits:

Spoiler:

QQ. I can't bot on my 360 and I think windower macros are gay because non-PC players can't use 'em. It's a part of the game like it or not and you just have to accept it until SE(never) cracks down on the intense gear swaps, claim bots, and other cheats that give people a leg up.

I don't play with all these crutches to hold me up and I play better than 95% of you who do. For those of you righteous types who claim you don't have botters in your LS, piss right the fuck off. You do, they're in hiding and they'll never admit it because they want your LS to keep it's pretty face you worked so hard on.

Dynamis:

Spoiler:

I chose to be in LS'es that adhered to it because it was convenient.
It does make things easier overall for the majority of us.
It's been made clear time and time again the Scheduling forum is nothing but a courtesy and (I believe, correct me if I'm wrong) those who choose not to abide by it are just restricted from posting an ad in the Linkshell Directory should they want to recruit here.

Quit your fucking crying you fucking carebears.

You know it's not a function built into the game and shame on those of you who transferred and bitch about people not following the scheduling. Many servers don't have something similar to this, and those that do probably don't have QCDN's organization when it comes to scheduling runs and resolving conflicts. (Cheers to the admins here who make it work and to the leaders who can peacefully resolve their conflicts.)

The problem would be fixed if Dynamis was instanced (coughIloveSalvage) but it's not.

Just because people don't adhere to what QCDN scheduling just means they're more inwardly focused to their team and less outwardly focused to being communal team players.

Vanquished:

Spoiler:

The best on Quetz by any/all means necessary. Until another transfer LS comes by or some of you buck up, there is no serious competition for these guys. They bot, they cheat, they Cure you when your dumbass forgets blockaid, they smack talk you, they get under your skin and they win.

Until things are cleaned up, you don't have to like it but you have to accept, that just like the real world it's not the righteous who rise. (Unless you're willing to wait to die and see if Jesus has open arms for you.) Quit your fucking crying, you know what to expect, and if you're gonna fucking cry dear God at least let it be about something new and quit beating dead fucking horses. For those of you who stand idle and do nothing but bitch, I hope these guys shit all over you. For those of you who are making an effort to field a team to give them some competition, GL and I hope you give them a run for their money. They might enjoy the game better even with some lost claims because it stings to lose a claim, but you get the heat of the hunt back.

The gist for those too lazy to read what's under the spoilers.

- I'm better than at least 95% of you cheaters.
- Quit your crying about Dynamis, it's a dead horse.
- Vanquished will continue to shit on you until you stand and do something about it.

Anyway, with that said.

Domination gets old.

Competition is good.

Have at it...

 

[Snowballx]

Sometimes I wonder, besides playing cause I have good friends who still play, why I even continue to bother with this game with this stupid drama shit.

 

[Taint]

You'd be cornered into a shitty city a lot more often if all the other shells decided "Screw this schedule crap lets just do whatever zone we want when we want" Everyone will do northlands cause thats what everyone wants, we do towns to allow new players to catch up and allow others to have a go up north.

There must be like 15 shells that contribute to this and its a shame more dont because we all have to live and co-exist in this small world together, be nice if we tried to get along with each other.

Until I came to Quetz, I never once used a Dynamis calendar. My previous shells did whatever zone we wanted to do. We primarily did Xarc and CoP, with the occasional Glacier for Attestations or Sandy for Bronzepieces. While you may constantly be rotating new members, try and remember that most higher-end shells (Abso included) don't tend to accept a lot of new members, and almost certainly won't take someone without Xarc acess. The reason is precisely because they don't want to waste time in cities every month.

SE "designed" the game the way it is cause they play this game by ear. They have no over all plan for anything they do and nor do they think about how what they add will affect the player base.
You should change your name from Taint to Twat.

Ps: Insults are fun.

SE may have "designed Dynamis without a plan" (it's amazing that you can read SE's intentions! Tell me where I can learn this magical power!), but they've also left it the way it is for five years. They obviously don't think the issues half of QCDN cries about are actually problems. You're retarded.

QFT.

Botting/Exploits:

Spoiler:

QQ. I can't bot on my 360 and I think windower macros are gay because non-PC players can't use 'em. It's a part of the game like it or not and you just have to accept it until SE(never) cracks down on the intense gear swaps, claim bots, and other cheats that give people a leg up.

I don't play with all these crutches to hold me up and I play better than 95% of you who do. For those of you righteous types who claim you don't have botters in your LS, piss right the fuck off. You do, they're in hiding and they'll never admit it because they want your LS to keep it's pretty face you worked so hard on.

Dynamis:

Spoiler:

I chose to be in LS'es that adhered to it because it was convenient.
It does make things easier overall for the majority of us.
It's been made clear time and time again the Scheduling forum is nothing but a courtesy and (I believe, correct me if I'm wrong) those who choose not to abide by it are just restricted from posting an ad in the Linkshell Directory should they want to recruit here.

Quit your fucking crying you fucking carebears.

You know it's not a function built into the game and shame on those of you who transferred and bitch about people not following the scheduling. Many servers don't have something similar to this, and those that do probably don't have QCDN's organization when it comes to scheduling runs and resolving conflicts. (Cheers to the admins here who make it work and to the leaders who can peacefully resolve their conflicts.)

The problem would be fixed if Dynamis was instanced (coughIloveSalvage) but it's not.

Just because people don't adhere to what QCDN scheduling just means they're more inwardly focused to their team and less outwardly focused to being communal team players.

Vanquished:

Spoiler:

The best on Quetz by any/all means necessary. Until another transfer LS comes by or some of you buck up, there is no serious competition for these guys. They bot, they cheat, they Cure you when your dumbass forgets blockaid, they smack talk you, they get under your skin and they win.

Until things are cleaned up, you don't have to like it but you have to accept, that just like the real world it's not the righteous who rise. (Unless you're willing to wait to die and see if Jesus has open arms for you.) Quit your fucking crying, you know what to expect, and if you're gonna fucking cry dear God at least let it be about something new and quit beating dead fucking horses. For those of you who stand idle and do nothing but bitch, I hope these guys shit all over you. For those of you who are making an effort to field a team to give them some competition, GL and I hope you give them a run for their money. They might enjoy the game better even with some lost claims because it stings to lose a claim, but you get the heat of the hunt back.

The gist for those too lazy to read what's under the spoilers.

- I'm better than at least 95% of you cheaters.
- Quit your crying about Dynamis, it's a dead horse.
- Vanquished will continue to shit on you until you stand and do something about it.

Anyway, with that said.

Domination gets old.

Competition is good.

Have at it...

And to all this, I giggled.