Silversurfer...

Dejavu said:
um... i woulda dont the same thing as silversurfer...

i have been in a lotta parties where people dont listen but when you decided to pull the "noob" word (which is the first time it went from strategy disagreement to personal) i would have either kicked you or left at that time too. Here's an idea lets take the one job that can make exp come alot faster (BRD) and piss him off. You need him he can disband and be in another party within 10 minutes. Then you try to do the ultimate "noob" thing and MPK him. All i can say is... you sir are a retard.

So i looked over some old links and found you a picture of your future.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/chupun/shortbus.jpg

Um, right. When I said Noob, I was out of that party INSTANTLY. There was no delay, and as we all know, this thing we like to call the Internet has what I like to call Lag. There wasn't any. He was already booting me from the party by the time I pulled The Magic Word on him.

Oh, and ALL HAIL THE BARDS! THE BARDS CAN DO NO WRONG! A BARD CANNOT BE AN ASSHAT BECAUSE THEY MUST BE OUR EXPERIENCE POINT SALVATION!
 
being a 72 brd i may be just a tad biased but... IMO you are prolly the one that should be getting flamed here if anyone, no matter the delay between you calling him a noob and getting booted. And hell if you wanna be an "asshat" and post in the flameboard section learn how to pull. I 61 levels as thf i pull maybe 1 link per level and if it is a bad one i have the respect for my party to die and get tractored to camp rather than kill the entire party. He may have over-reacted ill give you that but you are the reason the party ended. Hell y dont you start up a brd and see just how much fun it is when you know that you will be the first one down if the link is uncontrollable. In the future if the sleeper tells you to zone i suggest that you do it cause altho you can live why chance the death especially in an area that is sooo easy to reset.

Just my 2 cents.
 
being a 72 brd i may be just a tad biased but... IMO you are prolly the one that should be getting flamed here if anyone, no matter the delay between you calling him a noob and getting booted. And hell if you wanna be an "asshat" and post in the flameboard section learn how to pull. I 61 levels as thf i pull maybe 1 link per level and if it is a bad one i have the respect for my party to die and get tractored to camp rather than kill the entire party. He may have over-reacted ill give you that but you are the reason the party ended. Hell y dont you start up a brd and see just how much fun it is when you know that you will be the first one down if the link is uncontrollable. In the future if the sleeper tells you to zone i suggest that you do it cause altho you can live why chance the death especially in an area that is sooo easy to reset.

Just my 2 cents.
 
And hell if you wanna be an "asshat" and post in the flameboard section learn how to pull. I 61 levels as thf i pull maybe 1 link per level and if it is a bad one i have the respect for my party to die and get tractored to camp rather than kill the entire party.

Both pulls were bad pops. It wasn't a matter of "learning how to pull" because from everything I could discern when I pulled out my crossbow, it was a safe pull.

He may have over-reacted ill give you that but you are the reason the party ended.

Oh, what makes you think the party ended? I got booted, they didn't disband. They kept going.

Hell y dont you start up a brd and see just how much fun it is when you know that you will be the first one down if the link is uncontrollable. In the future if the sleeper tells you to zone i suggest that you do it cause altho you can live why chance the death especially in an area that is sooo easy to reset.

Sleeper? Let's talk about some aspects of the situation.

The bard was, first off, subbing NINJA. So he could easily put shadows up in between Lullaby attempts while someone else pulls hate off him.

Second, we had TWO Sleepers in the party - there was a Black Mage, too. Granted, Black Mages are somewhat on the squishy side... but still, that's a second attempt at Sleep.

Third, we had a fugging PL. If that Bard doofus had had any real sense, he could've just had ELFEN Elemental Seal + Sleep II the link. The real Elf would've probably done it pretty darn quick.

Fourth, we had a fugging PL. There was little to no danger of that Bard dying, because HE was the one CONTROLLING that PL. On a failed Lullaby, he could have easily just had Elf toss him a Cure3 and steal hate. And then put shadows up. And then try Lullaby again.

Fifth, on the error where he decided to run, that was the SECOND time we'd had Siege Bats link, and the first time, the fight went without a single hitch.

Sixth, we even had a SUMMONER who could have used his expendable Avatars to keep the link busy. Any half decent Summoner knows how to Carby-Pong a mob.

Seventh, half the party had Shadows.

Eighth, there were three people sitting on the steps just below us, literally not doing anything at all. Call For Help is how I handled the situation, and not one person died, even though all of the support members of the party had already run away.


And Ninth, I'm sorry, but unlike most of FFXI's population, I have chosen NOT to worship Bards like they are the Salvation of the People of Vana'diel. That is not to say that I dislike bards - far from it, it's a wonderful addition to most parties - but that does not exempt the player from, you know, having a brain.

And finally, if he tells me to zone and I don't, that's my fucking problem, and not his. If I choose to stay in the zone and fight, and try to contribute to those bats' death, why should he BOOT me from his party? I'm sorry, we've already incurred mass down time, if I died because I didn't zone, then gosh darn it, isn't that just like if I'd died to keep the pull from wrecking the party in the first place? He zoned, he had no chance of dying. Why the fuck should he have taken it out on me in the first place?
 
Tagrineth said:
Oh, and ALL HAIL THE BARDS! THE BARDS CAN DO NO WRONG! A BARD CANNOT BE AN ASSHAT BECAUSE THEY MUST BE OUR EXPERIENCE POINT SALVATION!

Crap, here and I've been wasting my time kissing Ranger ass all along... :cry:
 
Excim said:
Tagrineth said:
Oh, and ALL HAIL THE BARDS! THE BARDS CAN DO NO WRONG! A BARD CANNOT BE AN ASSHAT BECAUSE THEY MUST BE OUR EXPERIENCE POINT SALVATION!

Crap, here and I've been wasting my time kissing Ranger ass all along... :cry:

Oh, remember, the best Arrowburn parties had at least 1 Bard in them.
 
You forgot #10 that the lvl 65+ DRG was already killing the mob when he was still shouting for you to zone.

Silver sounds like a control freak and an idiot to me. "you didn't follow my orders so i am kicking you!"

Although i do agree that while calling him a noob may not have been the reason you were kicked it was definately not something that would have helped the situation had he not been about to kick you.

just my 2 cents.
 
Tagrineth said:
Hell y dont you start up a brd and see just how much fun it is when you know that you will be the first one down if the link is uncontrollable. In the future if the sleeper tells you to zone i suggest that you do it cause altho you can live why chance the especially in an area that is sooo easy to reset.

Sleeper? Let's talk about some aspects of the situation.

The bard was, first off, subbing NINJA. So he could easily put shadows up in between Lullaby attempts while someone else pulls off him.

Lemme start here. I havn't taken time to look up weapons to see if there are an viable reason why a BRD should sub NIN for stat purpose, but I wouldn't think that not having WHM subbed would be worth it. But, admittedly I don't know. Just seams really funny to me. Being a RDM and thus primary sleeper I've never had too much of an issue with sleeps and .

Second, we had TWO Sleepers in the party - there was a Black Mage, too. Granted, Black Mages are somewhat on the squishy side... but still, that's a second attempt at Sleep.

Third, we had a fugging PL. If that Bard doofus had had any real sense, he could've just had ELFEN Elemental Seal + Sleep II the link. The real Elf would've probably done it pretty darn quick.

Fourth, we had a fugging PL. There was little to no danger of that Bard dying, because HE was the one CONTROLLING that PL. On a failed Lullaby, he could have easily just had Elf toss him a Cure3 and steal . And then put shadows up. And then try Lullaby again.

Fifth, on the error where he decided to run, that was the SECOND time we'd had Siege Bats link, and the first time, the fight went without a single hitch.

Sixth, we even had a SUMMONER who could have used his expendable Avatars to keep the link busy. Any half decent Summoner knows how to Carby-Pong a mob.

These are are reasonable points. If Silversurfer didn't want to fight links while PLing himself he should have said something atleast after the first link. something simply like, "If we get a link lets zone. (insert additional info if needed, ex: it's too hard to control links when playing two characters").


Seventh, half the party had Shadows.

Eighth, there were three people sitting on the steps just below us, literally not doing anything at all. Call For Help is how I handled the situation, and not one person died, even though all of the support members of the party had already run away.

I could see the logic, but it's still not wise to take on two things that can eat shadows up pretty quickly.


And Ninth, I'm sorry, but unlike most of FFXI's population, I have chosen NOT to worship Bards like they are the Salvation of the People of Vana'diel. That is not to say that I dislike bards - far from it, it's a wonderful addition to most parties - but that does not exempt the player from, you know, having a brain.

I don't understand this. Granted I <3 BRD, I'm no where near this level of thining and I honestly don't know anyone (even other BRDs) who do. Everyone has their perks, and their downfalls. With sleeping issues RDMs are much better that BRDs, unless it's multiple and/or they're dark based, then BRDs are much better. So I don't understand this rant. <.<

And finally, if he tells me to zone and I don't, that's my ing problem, and not his. If I choose to stay in the zone and fight, and try to contribute to those bats' , why should he BOOT me from his party? I'm sorry, we've already incurred mass down time, if I died because I didn't zone, then gosh darn it, isn't that just like if I'd died to keep the pull from wrecking the party in the first place? He zoned, he had no chance of dying. Why the should he have taken it out on me in the first place?

I think what happened here was mostly an unwillingness to communicate. I agree that Silver was the first to show a lack in communication, but I think neither of you are in this matter. As for MPKing. It is not OK under any circumstances. If you want to be mean (and you have the ability) just take all their XP mobs. At least then you're not "hurting" anyone. Although, I would never choose this tactic either, cause I have pride in the fact that I'm an overall nice guy and I see no intelligence in pulling such childish manuevers.

In my experience with Silversurfer, he is one who's more dificult to communicate with. He's not necissarily a bad player. Ya both got heated and said things. It happens. Easiest thing to do would be to move on.
 
Tagrineth said:
Oh, I would go back and edit this in but obviously this is the flameboard and that won't work.

You say you saw that I'm rank 6? Well obviously that makes me a know nothing piece of shit right? ^.~

I love it when people poke fun at other people's rank.. like Silversurfer did to you, I'm lv75 and rank6 ... ooOoOo i must be a newb.. :P

He was a jerk for no reason Tag, although the MPK attempt was still un-called for , you should have just ignored him and left before things escalated.
 
Sorry to be semi-sort-of-off-topic, but what happened to Elfen? From the way this is written, it seems Elfen sold or gave his character away...
 
Alyssan. said:
Tagrineth said:
Oh, I would go back and edit this in but obviously this is the flameboard and that won't work.

You say you saw that I'm rank 6? Well obviously that makes me a know nothing piece of shit right? ^.~

I love it when people poke fun at other people's rank.. like Silversurfer did to you, I'm lv75 and rank6 ... ooOoOo i must be a newb.. :P

He was a jerk for no reason Tag, although the MPK attempt was still un-called for , you should have just ignored him and left before things escalated.

fuckin rank 6 tisk tisk
 
Javir said:
Lemme start here. I havn't taken time to look up weapons to see if there are an viable reason why a BRD should sub NIN for stat purpose, but I wouldn't think that not having WHM subbed would be worth it. But, admittedly I don't know. Just seams really funny to me. Being a RDM and thus primary sleeper I've never had too much of an issue with sleeps and .

Correct. BRD/NIN = pointless. He was doing it so he could melee with two Swords, and he's probably one of the UTSUSEMI OR BUST type people...

And Ninth, I'm sorry, but unlike most of FFXI's population, I have chosen NOT to worship Bards like they are the Salvation of the People of Vana'diel. That is not to say that I dislike bards - far from it, it's a wonderful addition to most parties - but that does not exempt the player from, you know, having a brain.

I don't understand this. Granted I <3 BRD, I'm no where near this level of thining and I honestly don't know anyone (even other BRDs) who do. Everyone has their perks, and their downfalls. With sleeping issues RDMs are much better that BRDs, unless it's multiple and/or they're dark based, then BRDs are much better. So I don't understand this rant. <.<

This rant is because of what the guy I replied to said -

Here's an idea lets take the one job that can make exp come alot faster (BRD) and piss him off. You need him he can disband and be in another party within 10 minutes.

basically suggesting that I shouldn't have pissed him off solely because he is a Bastion of Awesomely Reduced Downtime, AKA Bard, and should be worshipped and put on a pedestal just because of his job. Despite being an idiot.

Sorry to be semi-sort-of-off-topic, but what happened to Elfen? From the way this is written, it seems Elfen sold or gave his character away...

Correct. =C Elfen's character is now under the control of Silverloser.
 
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