#1 reason, playing SMN drives me nuts.

Oh yes, another reason to level another job to 75 first before SMN - if you don't do any of the level 20 Avatar fights, then you can use the NPCs to teleport yourself around when you're on SMN. As in, go to MHaura and get yourself teleported to Boyahda Tree. You're level 20 cap but you can just zone and your cap is removed.
 
Like I said, LS working on getting all my Whispers. Going well. I'm gonna continue to level SMN just because I really like the job. Hopefullly Fenny will be mine in the near future^^ thanks for all of the input. Makes me feela abit better about it all.
 
actually your not capped at all unless you enter the actual fight jusrt using themini fork to get sent to said clositer doesnt cap you at all I use them all the me ^^
 
Firestreak said:
SMN is a low tier job in the first place for invite priority. The parties where SMN is most effective are designed for using Fenrir as oppose to simply stacking AA or EW to lower downtime. Therefore the idea that you are entitled to be invited without Fenrir is kind of strange to be honest. It doesn't totally break the job to be missing 1 ability but Fenrir is one of SMN's few advantages that can make it competitive in seeking that slot as opposed to another job.
Click to expand...

that is exactly true. i remember in the mid level ranges that fenrir was the avatar that i used most (granted some things have changed now from about 2 years ago but still)

Firestreka said:
As said, like a RDM without Refresh, a WHM without Raise 2/3... they can still function but they aren't competitive versus another that could be in that slot.
Click to expand...

correct statement #2!

Firestreak said:
I said it years ago and I'll say it now, SMN was really designed to be a job to play after you already have 1 75 so can get all the avatars. Now we have the level 20 battles, which I believe were added for getting SMN sub to 37 as Fenrir is not useful in those levels. Past 37, if you're planning to level SMN seriously, get Fenrir, period. You want to not get Fenrir, your choice - but people will skip over you for invites, just like people will skip over a THF they know doesn't have a SH or whatever.
Click to expand...

yeah, ill agree with this for correct #3. its not meant to be your first 75 job really.
 
Crosis said:
lol so true:
Player 1: {In what order shall we do our weapon skills?}
Player 2: No Black mage, no need to really do a SC.
Player 3: {Tachi: Enpi} > {Hard Slash} for {Distortion}
Player 4: OMFFG distariton pnwz!!!!111
Player 2: /sigh
Click to expand...
lol@your post. Sry, but if you can pull off a 200+ dmg distortion skillchain... its worth it. so u can flame me if u want but until u can make up for that loss of 200+ extra FREE damage... i wont listen to whatcha gotta say

EDIT: about the rdm comment... it depends what jobs you have in the pt in order to make the rdm worth having. lets say nin, war, whm, brd, rdm, sam... rdm will be able to stay in for DD. lets say pld, whm, blu, blm, drk, rdm... if the rdm doesnt have refresh, they will most likely be kicked when another with some sort of refresh is avail.
 
Last edited:
oo 200 damage versus the combined 400-500 extra damage the melee would do solo and not having to wait for the other person.

So no not worth it lol
 
Crosis said:
oo 200 damage versus the combined 400-500 extra damage the melee would do solo and not having to wait for the other person.

So no not worth it lol
Click to expand...
You'll toss out that damage one way or another. Lining up skillchains and if ur hitting at the same rate, you can down a chain 6 easily with tp saved for the start. Organization over e-peen please
 
dbuman said:
You'll toss out that damage one way or another. Lining up skillchains and if ur hitting at the same rate, you can down a chain 6 easily with tp saved for the start. Organization over e-peen please
Click to expand...

sorry, but since when do melee get tp at the same rate? typically my melee gear has been better than others i have partied with (because i took the time to farm and get the appropriate gear), and almost always had to wait on TP for WS.

sorry, but you fail. holding tp just to WS is a lose situation for distortion.
 
How exactly are you tossing out the same damage? Thats like saying a War using Rampage is equal to Avalanche Axe. Or a Mnk using Raging Fists is equal to One Inch Punch. OMG Avalanche Axe makes distortion, use it!! ...
 
but wiv distochin d tarul ken mb frees and keel d monztr
 
Neo, there are certain circumstances where two melee DD can actually time tp gain right. two DD with 2 handed weps with similar acc will more than likely be able to match up tp gain, its happened to me plenty of times. Basing something just on your own experience is kind of one-sided. Saying someone fails because their experience with it doesnt match yours is not right at all.
 
Crosis said:
How exactly are you tossing out the same damage? Thats like saying a War using Rampage is equal to Avalanche Axe. Or a Mnk using Raging Fists is equal to One Inch Punch. OMG Avalanche Axe makes distortion, use it!! ...
Click to expand...
Distortion isnt the only sc that can pop out a crapload of dmg. in a duo, both members can get around the same tp around the same time 2/4 fights atleast, it happens most the time for me. What works for you might not work for me and visa versa, but 2 drgs doing penta thrust -> skewer for 230+ dmg a skillchain seems worth it to me.
 
dbuman said:
Neo, there are certain circumstances where two melee DD can actually time tp gain right. two DD with 2 handed weps with similar acc will more than likely be able to match up tp gain, its happened to me plenty of times. Basing something just on your own experience is kind of one-sided. Saying someone fails because their experience with it doesnt match yours is not right at all.
Click to expand...

Please tell me how a Sam and Drk will TP at the same rate, given that the Sam isn't some insane gimp?
 
lmao crosis, bad example to go there. Sam = meditate = can sc whenever he wants just about within a few min. A sam will pull out a ws solo, then when the drk has tp, will SC with a drk (but there are hardly any good SCs with drk and sam so i give u props for that)
 
dbuman said:
lmao crosis, bad example to go there. Sam = meditate = can sc whenever he wants just about within a few min. A sam will pull out a ws solo, then when the drk has tp, will SC with a drk (but there are hardly any good SCs with drk and sam so i give u props for that)
Click to expand...

You further the perception that DRGs are a bunch of idiots that like to poke stuff and have a friend since their RL is as useless as their in game job.
 
meeze said:
You further the perception that DRGs are a bunch of idiots that like to poke stuff and have a friend since their RL is as useless as their in game job.
Click to expand...
Ill return that criticism with an equal statement, you people cause the loldrg to start, so you dont open up to other means of exping and success, and then whenever we do something you arent familiar with, you bash it even more.

EDIT: each job is different, not better than one another. SE does some messed up balance, but drg works fine duo and can get a decent amount of exp without dealing with the people shouting loldrg every chance they get

sry EDIT2: Use constructive criticism and not lameass replies plz. Persuade, not argue. Though having fun with a job you like is important, right? so why be laughing at someone who enjoys lvling and playing as drg? ok ill bash you for being you, how about that? no i wont because i believe there is hope for everyone, regardless how much knowledge they have and how they use it improperly.
 
Last edited:
dbuman said:
Ill return that criticism with an equal statement, you people cause the loldrg to start, so you dont open up to other means of exping and success, and then whenever we do something you arent familiar with, you bash it even more.

EDIT: each job is different, not better than one another. SE does some messed up balance, but drg works fine duo and can get a decent amount of exp without dealing with the people shouting loldrg every chance they get
Click to expand...
Sorry certain jobs are better then others, it is a fact. Next you'll be saying well equipped PUPs can out DD well equipped Monks.
 
dbuman said:
Ill return that criticism with an equal statement, you people cause the loldrg to start, so you dont open up to other means of exping and success, and then whenever we do something you arent familiar with, you bash it even more.

EDIT: each job is different, not better than one another. SE does some messed up balance, but drg works fine duo and can get a decent amount of exp without dealing with the people shouting loldrg every chance they get
Click to expand...


You are babbling nonsense which is why "us people" are "bashing" you. You've been spamming these boards this week with a bunch of useless nonsense and getting owned the whole way, maybe try and rethink your game plan and come back in a few weeks with a new approach.
 
meeze said:
You are babbling nonsense which is why "us people" are "bashing" you. You've been spamming these boards this week with a bunch of useless nonsense and getting owned the whole way, maybe try and rethink your game plan and come back in a few weeks with a new approach.
Click to expand...
>.> every time i mention the word DRG, thats the first thing that pops out of ur mouths, not about me myself and I, but about drg in general. call me names and do what u want about it but you should just tell me what im doing wrong with understandable rationality instead of constant "You suck" posts and maybe I will listen.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top