Obvious truths, Because THE REAL LIVE footage from the ACTUAL news reports that i have a VHS of shows the stuff that is not being replayed on the air, the "other" explosions are on the day 1 live footage that i have said, Over and over has been skipped over on televised replayed.
This is not a conspiracy video on the net, This came from the ACTUAL media footage, you know the media, the thing your putting so much stock into aired all this live.
I love how you worded this. Very well done. However, its a subject change from what I actually commented about. You also only posted the claim that the media never replays it once which I refuted and you provided no proof. The history channel along with other documenteries show it all. The reason you don't see it there is either because it didn't happen, or wasn't noticeable from that cameras view.
Now, the origonal point of my comment was your statement of 'obvious truths' which is in reference to things seen in the video you origonally posted. What you claim as 'obvious truths' and try to play off as things that don't require belief, are indead parts that fall under question and require you to believe to use them. You believe there was clouds forming at the bottom. I couldn't see any in the video even when he outlined them. You believe there were explosions. I think the sounds were something else, either recording errors, other things entirelly, snapping reinforcements, or even fakes added later. Thus, yes you do have to believe in those things to call them 'obvious truths'.
What ive said over and over again you seem to misread, is why dont they play those points of the footage on replays? they skip parts.
for the 1000th time.
You mean for the 2nd time. Like I said the first time,
if there was more to show, it would mean better ratings for the media provider which means more money. Media's primary concern at all time is money. If they could show something that legitmately happened to boost ratings, they would. If you think the government is bad about money, the media is worse. They will do anything to make money and they could make a lot of money if there was legitamate film that proves their was a conspiracy.
so are you admitting defeat by challenging my intelligence? you can have some of that back too then.
Questioning whether you have the improper definition of a word isn't questioning your intelligence. It is an attempt at finding the root of the disagreement.
That film, as i stated is NOT a real film, it is an edited GIF file of the pentagon footage released that mocks it. because it shows nothing but an explosion and something thats supposed to be a plane nose and is clearly too small?
Can you quote where i said that was supposed to be a real video? What about the part where i even said what the guy who made it said? At least the fake one showed a plane! is the point of the file being created.
Can you quote where I accused you of stating that to be a real video? I included it as a light hearted play on the literal words, but you clearly missed that. So defensive over something that wasn't even attacked.
if you havent noticed by now after me repeating myself over and over the reason why i believed more than before, and the above repeated explanation.
I didn't ask why you believed. I was simply trying to show where you had stated that you
did believe. Remember, that's what I was responding to begin with. You said you didn't, I provided examples where you stated you did. No where in that exchange did I ask why (the 'why' was earlier when we were having a discussion on topic, but you usually choose not to answer).
ive lost utmost respect for how your trying to twist my words to form what you wanna say here for you. I was told you always had to be correct, but i thought you were going to help with an intelligent convo. Guess i was wrong.
Every point you raised I responded with a respectful counter response, usually with evidence to back it up. How did that not contribute to an intelligent conversation? That's more than you did on most of your rambling, random claims that I countered.
This thread lost its purpose and im just tired of coming in here to see something i didnt say.
...You do understand quotes right? They are exact copies words you said. How can you claims these are not things you said?
You say you repeat yourself alot, but what you are repeating is the claim of repeating. You aren't actually repeating content because you haven't provided content. At the core you claim to repeat something that you did not say. About the only thing you are correct in claiming to repeat yourself on is saying "I don't believe". However, that alone doesn't counter what I provided in my previous post.
If you wanted on topic discussion, you should have provided your sources for more of your random claims or tried to counter some of the arguments used against your view. You did neither, yet refused to step down from the discussion. Thus, I continued in the only venue you allowed. When you refuse to have a logical discussion, but won't bow out, this is always the result.
I don't care about last post. I have let Trippy and Mokk have it on occasion too. I tend to get it most often because I do not grow tired of threads as quickly. The discussion is fun to me. If you don't enjoy it, you probably shouldn't start controversial threads.