A big problem.

[Acutie]

Have these people ever heard anything about safe sex? Damn with people like this it's no wonder STDs spread like wildfire.

 

[Ronith]

Not everyone can be a gleaming pillar of strength like you and I are rones :biggrin:

But the main point I was trying to make there with the story about john and his girl is that I think she lied to him about birth control and pretty much has him buy it so she can flush it down the drain. I think she gets pregnant on purpose so he won't leave her.

I can control my desires and urges... with anyone else, but not when I'm with my girl... I just can't T.T it's impossible for me to resist that from her...

Now to be completely honest I could say if a super model or some famous 'hot' actor singer chick w/e you wanna say came up to me and asked me to fun, I would and could whole heartedly say no to her... simply because I don't know her... and besides I love my girl^^

And besides IMO: Skinny ass chicks scare me *scared* my girl isnt big at all, but she's not a toothpick and that is the best to me and maybe that's why I can resist those chicks so easy... (not that that would EVER happen to me) t(-.-t)

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Honestly if he didnt ask before anything happened if she had herpes, then IMO it's his own damn fault, like you said resist your urges or take the risk, simple as that...

Hope everything goes okay for ya Trippy, and hope you don't lose any friends because I know how that feels...

 

[Kire]

somethings came to mind family guy when the guys son gets pregendet from kissing that alein and then he kisses a girl and she gets pregrant with an alein or something. but self control is all you needas they toke that risk then its there falt

 

[Direwolf]

Personaly I would have to side with John on this. You knew something that could long term fuck with his life. Not saying you should go around and gossip but if you think something is going on, you shoulda brought it up to the party involved, that hey your partner has herpes.

The fact that Jane did not tell him when they got into a situation that would compromise his health is pretty fucked up. I think someone needs to sit her down and explain about responsibilty, the same could be said with John. Be with the mother of his child or not, his choice. He has to make a decision one way or another because the cheating BS is just that BS.

 

[Aerandir]

I would simply plead the 5th from this point on. Too many times I have found myself in between friends, and family. I've recently learned to just stfu. It is that simple. If anyone takes issue with you not volunteering information just remind them that the door swings both ways. They don't want you telling anyone about their baggage, so why would they expect you to do so with anyone else.

Be neutral, and even if it all goes to hell, at least you can say that it wasn't due to something you did or said. Don't let other people's drama become your own. If you see that you can't get out of this without being the bad guy, then take Pali's advice, and just write them off. It isn't worth the undue stress on your person.

 

[kaikyaku]

So... what do I do? I don't want these people to hate me for the rest of their lives. I suppose both of them need to understand that there is a reason why I have privelaged information about the other one. It's because they both trust me not to do anything with that information to harm them. Yet both of them still want me to tell all secrets about the other.

Sorry if this had been said on the previous pages… I only read the first one.

Not taking into account on how bad their current relationships are Jane and John seemed to have no problem betraying their current Life Partners. To me that speaks oodles on their character. The fact that they seem to have no problem throwing their family into turmoil for a moment of lust kinda tells me they have little to no love outside of there own needs.

Jane and John have some real bad issues they haven’t dealt with. I could be wrong but it seems what they are trying to do (in the most basic form) is to keep their happiness. With the problems they both seem to have in with their prospective families it looks like they were looking for a temp escape from whatever ails them.

From how they are upset at you, it strikes me they are upset you broke their illusion of bliss.

Even if I’m wrong I’m gonna be blunt. Both of them strike me as selfish and destructive. I don’t think the issue is you telling the confidential truths… I think you threatened their safe place by putting to light where they really are in life…. And I don’t think they are ready to face that yet.

If they’re not ready to face it then that means they are gonna blame someone other than themselves…. And I think that’s you.

This really does sound like a serious problem and I am so sorry you have to go threw this. I think the only suggestion I have is to not enable them. Don’t do anything that would keep in harboring their secrets. They’re digging a huge ditch to hide in and if you threaten that I can see a couple things happening.

1. They take you down with them.
2. They see were they are and get some real help.

Either way it’s up to you what you are going to do… I just ask you to be careful.

 

[Strid]

You should round these three trainwrecks up, take them to a remote location, and bury a bullet in their craniums. One guy who cheats on his kids mother (without a break up or agreement), a girl who is secreting a disease she secretly recieved without care, and a guy who secretly diseased someone and pulls his dong like an addict don not sound like friends to me. They sound like problems. Since you're basically asking advice I'll tell you what I'd do if I where in your situation. I'd sit down with all of them and tell them just how messed up they are for doing what they do/did, whatever, and on top of it putting some resentment on you for their actions. They are adults, they need to accept their actions as they chose them. I never understood why people blame such stupid crap ,that is obviously their fault, on others. If you're man enough to pull out your tool be man enough to handle the backlash, if any. If I had an STD I don't know how I couldn't tell a potential partner or even a hooker. That weight on my chest would be unbearable. Anyway, set them down and tell them, with some gumption, how it is despite if they want to hear it that way or not. If they don't understand, screw them (not literally though ) , that's just wrong and I'd consider rethinking if they are really friends at all.

 

[Mokk]

You should round these three trainwrecks up, take them to a remote location, and bury a bullet in their craniums. One guy who cheats on his kids mother (without a break up or agreement), a girl who is secreting a disease she secretly recieved without care, and a guy who secretly diseased someone and pulls his dong like an addict don not sound like friends to me. They sound like problems. Since you're basically asking advice I'll tell you what I'd do if I where in your situation. I'd sit down with all of them and tell them just how messed up they are for doing what they do/did, whatever, and on top of it putting some resentment on you for their actions. They are adults, they need to accept their actions as they chose them. I never understood why people blame such stupid crap ,that is obviously their fault, on others. If you're man enough to pull out your tool be man enough to handle the backlash, if any. If I had an STD I don't know how I couldn't tell a potential partner or even a hooker. That weight on my chest would be unbearable. Anyway, set them down and tell them, with some gumption, how it is despite if they want to hear it that way or not. If they don't understand, screw them (not literally though ) , that's just wrong and I'd consider rethinking if they are really friends at all.

I'm with strid for the most part 'cept i know you irl. I will say this much the name isn't just a nick it's a way of life, trip is absolutely the most non-confrontational human being i've ever known.

I would instead recommend complete alienation. Seriously, i don't even know who you're talking about, nor am i interested, but that's a whole bunch of screwed up crap that has little to nothing to do with you save association with those involved in being mindless.

 

[Strid]

I would instead recommend complete alienation. Seriously, i don't even know who you're talking about, nor am i interested, but that's a whole bunch of screwed up crap that has little to nothing to do with you save association with those involved in being mindless.

I was going to write down this path as well but he put them being long time friends. It's often hard to just let long time friends go despite what really needs to be done. I agree with you though. Then again if he just completely goes off on them, as a friend, he could possibly help them big time. That is a slim shot in the dark but you never know what finally makes people start using their heads.

 

[Zyndara]

Personaly I would have to side with John on this. You knew something that could long term fuck with his life. Not saying you should go around and gossip but if you think something is going on, you shoulda brought it up to the party involved, that hey your partner has herpes.

Wow, I'm sorry, but I have to say this is some messed up thinking. The fact is that John is the one responsible for his own detrimental behavior, not Trip. You can poke whoever you want or lick whatever you want... but in the morning, it isn't mom or dad or you best friend or the dude around the corner that has to live with what you did, YOU are. It really sucks that people walk around and screw things up then don't want to take any accountability. You like someone? Here's a concept... get to know them a little longer then "hey she's hot" before you go down on them. I have no sympathy for either of them. She's a bit sleazy in my mind for letting things go that far when she knows she has health issues, but he's just as much a sleaze for going there with someone he barely knew.

Trip, it really sucks that your so called friends put you in this position. They both sound to me like very impulsive people with some real personal issues. I think both of them need help because this is some really risky behavior on both their parts. It could have been a hell of a lot worse then herpes. The next time John starts giving you shit, I'd mention to him that you didn't pull her skirt up and say "have at it buddy." If that doesn't do it, tell him that other people's personal issues and the choices they make are none of your business. If he can't see that he's being a real jerk for expecting you to break that kind of confidence, ask him how he'd feel if it was his problem you were broadcasting to other people. Either way, I'd take yourself out of it completely. And if they can't get over it and work through it themselves...like real grown up people do...then really, imho you are better off without these types of "friends."

 

[Braydon]

First off, did John get herpes?

Second of all, he needs to be super careful if he did. I know that herpes is localized(i.e. you "please orally" a girl with herpes, you get it on your mouth.) But I know that it is VERY bad if a woman get herpes durring pregnacy. Increases the chances of the baby getting it alot. And herpes in infants has a 60% mortality rate.