A perfectly logical argument.(sarcasm)

[Khajit]

They aren't recording their nudity onto a medium though. I think that's the main difference here.

That might be true but if you were to look at a naked teenager your ass IRL would be sent off to jail so the idea of you not getting in trouble for seeing a person naked without it being on camera is flawed.

 

[Morcheeba]

They aren't recording their nudity onto a medium though. I think that's the main difference here.

Which is why I said. Toys are ever growing popularity with kids. Parents allow them to be that much more accessible by buying such 'mediums' therefore they should be prepared for the 'new' life lessons they'll have to teach their kids and the 'new' difficulties and pressures their children are going to face.

You don't want your 13/14 yr old daughter sending her flavour of the week nudies of her mosquito bites then don't buy her a cellphone. OR, monitor her usage and be sure to hold her accountable and YOURSELF accountable for the materials she may choose to take with her new toy.

Parents are getting off soooo easily now a days. Wow.

 

[Xalioniaf]

That might be true but if you were to look at a naked teenager your ass IRL would be sent off to jail so the idea of you not getting in trouble for seeing a person naked without it being on camera is flawed.

I'm having trouble understanding your argument here, but lemme say this.
If I, as a 19 year old, were to see a 16 year old naked and be caught, I'd be punished.
If a 17 year old boy were to see a 16 year old girl naked and be caught, I don't think he'd be punishable under any law (unless it wasn't consensual), but he could get shitcanned by her parents.
But if the 17 year old were to see a picture of a 16 year old girl naked and be caught, then he'd be punishable under child pornography laws. It's not really a law based around logic, but really about the possibility of distribution. If a 16 year old has a picture of his naked similarly-aged girlfriend on his computer, there's a chance that someone could access his computer, take the picture, and distribute it to dirty pedos everywhere. You've gotta nip the problem at the bud before it sprouts, as most of these photos of jailbait don't come from adults exploiting these kids, but form the kids themselves doing something zany and wacky.

 

[Khajit]

A 17 year old boy seeing a 16 year old naked is perfectly punishable under the law. People have been sent to jail for having sex with girls one week younger than them on their 17(or whichever age of consent it is in your area) on their birthday. Most sane people wouldn't jail you for it but it is perfectly legal to do so.

So if it's illegal to see a naked underage girl then it's illegal for you if you're underage as well. Afterwards take into account the logic of punishing the victim that started this topic and then logically one can lead that into it being illegal to look at your own naked body if you're underaged. It really isn't as much of a stretch as you think.

 

[Linhjah]

It is the exact same thing. What if said girl was a lesbian and took naked pictured of herself? If authorities found those pictured of HERSELF on her computer, in what way does that justify her registering as a sex offender? It is the exact same thing as her looking at herself naked in a mirror in, say, the bathroom.

Being stored in a file on her hard-drive is not the same thing as being posted to a public networking site. She could view the pictures of herself (fucking narcissism muck) without her computer being hooked up to the internet and there would not be the same sort of distribution risk.

Not to be a douche or anything, but since when did a fine solve anything? That's like stickin' a kids nose in the corner, with no other reprimand, instead of bustin' their ass. No harm no foul is what it interprets too. A short trip to juve, be it even a week, just to see what kind of treat she's in for if she keeps it up would really call up some heavy reflection.

A fine is almost always the first step in the legal system. Yeah, if there was a second offense, guess its time for a different punishment. I completely agree that a trip to a detention center for a week or so would be appropriate, but I don't think its appropriate for the first offense.

And fines can work. I wound up living with my grandparents when I was 19 for quite a few months to pay off thousands of dollars worth of speeding tickets. I haven't had a single speeding ticket since then (knock on wood) because I don't speed like I used to; the lesson was learned.

Which is why it is retarded. Possession of naked pictures of yourself shouldn't be against the law. It would be like saying anyone below the age of 18 getting naked to shower is performing an illegal act.

Possession is fine. Posting them on Facebook or Myspace is not. It is equivalent to posting them up on the sign in front of your highschool.

They aren't recording their nudity onto a medium though. I think that's the main difference here.

Exactly.

A 17 year old boy seeing a 16 year old naked is perfectly punishable under the law. People have been sent to jail for having sex with girls one week younger than them on their 17(or whichever age of consent it is in your area) on their birthday. Most sane people wouldn't jail you for it but it is perfectly legal to do so.

So if it's illegal to see a naked underage girl then it's illegal for you if you're underage as well. Afterwards take into account the logic of punishing the victim that started this topic and then logically one can lead that into it being illegal to look at your own naked body if you're underaged. It really isn't as much of a stretch as you think.

I think those laws vary from state to state.

 

[Z.Z.]

A 17 year old boy seeing a 16 year old naked is perfectly punishable under the law. People have been sent to jail for having sex with girls one week younger than them on their 17(or whichever age of consent it is in your area) on their birthday. Most sane people wouldn't jail you for it but it is perfectly legal to do so.

This is why I think our age of consent of the age of 14 should be the norm. Mosy 16 and 17 year old's are perfectly capable of making their own choices about sex.

 

[Uzor]

Being stored in a file on her hard-drive is not the same thing as being posted to a public networking site. She could view the pictures of herself (fucking narcissism muck) without her computer being hooked up to the internet and there would not be the same sort of distribution risk.


A fine is almost always the first step in the legal system. Yeah, if there was a second offense, guess its time for a different punishment. I completely agree that a trip to a detention center for a week or so would be appropriate, but I don't think its appropriate for the first offense.

And fines can work. I wound up living with my grandparents when I was 19 for quite a few months to pay off thousands of dollars worth of speeding tickets. I haven't had a single speeding ticket since then (knock on wood) because I don't speed like I used to; the lesson was learned.


Possession is fine. Posting them on Facebook or Myspace is not. It is equivalent to posting them up on the sign in front of your highschool.


Exactly.


I think those laws vary from state to state.

My point is, having a law forbidding possession of naked photos of yourself is retarded. Just possessing them isn't a crime if they're of yourself. Sharing them is different, but that's not what I'm arguing about. She got a punishment for possession, which is absolutely retarded.

 

[Linhjah]

This is why I think our age of consent of the age of 14 should be the norm. Mosy 16 and 17 year old's are perfectly capable of making their own choices about sex.

I haven't met a 14 year old who is capable of making adult decisions about sex. Most 16 and 17 year olds are perfectly capable of making stupid decisions concerning sex. I was sexually active at a young age, and while I wouldn't say I'm disappointed with my actions, I can look back now (I'm 26) and think, "Wow, that was really damned dumb." I would have probably made different choices if I had the understanding and experiences I do now.
Many teenagers make physically and emotionally irresponsible choices in all areas of their life - sex is no different.

My point is, having a law forbidding possession of naked photos of yourself is retarded. Just possessing them isn't a crime if they're of yourself. Sharing them is different, but that's not what I'm arguing about. She got a punishment for possession, which is absolutely retarded.

She was charged with possession and distribution. I doubt she would have been charged with anything, though, had she not distributed them. I agree possession charges are silly, but I totally support punishing the distribution.

 

[Mattaru]

Pics or it didn't happen

Oh shi....

Letter and Spirit of the Law debate go!

In a circle!

I like the lady who said, "This girl needs help, not legal trouble."

 

[Jereme]

doh wanted to not post

 

[Mirewen]

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I know this is late but...

Fail bold and italics are fail.


<3!!

On topic, the only persons life she's actually screwing is her own. I think sex offender is too harsh a sentence but she definitely does need a slap upside the head.