A weapon I am looking into

[K. Ishitar]

I am looking into getting the Triple Dagger, the triple attack would be sweet.

I plan to offhand it with my Wize Wizard Anelace when i get on and do some skill up

I have looked into Lust Dagger and its agi would prove useful in soloing and since -1 stats wouldn't hurt me so much i think it is a good bargain, since one needs a lot of a stat for it to take great effect.

Beestinger i compare with Corrosive Baselard because the weaponspeed with Corrosive(181 delay) is either slightly the same or lower than Beestinger, which would mean questing beestinger would be a waste of time.

On a 1-10 scale how good are they?

Costs of these weapons would be greatly appreciated as well

Before anyone calls the "N" word. check meh sig=P Ive been out for 3 months.

 

[Blackchaoshero]

beestinger or hornet needle is 150 delay.. not my area of expertise to comment on the rest

 

[Bajaratt]

You're not likely to get much support for being a melee rdm in exp parties. I don't know much about the daggers since I'm not a thf; I'm just pointing out that melee rdm's are frowned upon.

 

[K. Ishitar]

I don't melee in pts..........-_- Its for skill up and solo

 

[Khajit]

triple dagger outright sucks. the weak damage for 1% triple attack isnt worth it when a hornetneedle or bestinger can hit alot faster than you get triple attack.
I'd suggest getting a hornetneedle or beestinger. High level Rdm use dagggers with enspells to deal damage through the enspells as you probably already know . Actually damaging the monster with melee attacks isnt whats important to a rdm soloing its the enspell damage so ignore str and go for int when using it.

 

[K. Ishitar]

I actually plan to experiment with agi; the stat has a lot of uses it will make skill up easier for my weakest areas ie parrying, shield, evasion.

I try to avoid using mage stats and see the potential of rdm melee and how much of a tool it can be when out of mp.

 

[Ronith]

pfft, get a Mec Kris!

Edit: Fixed name

 

[Courtney]

If you're just looking for fast delay for skillups, a Platoon Dagger (L20?) costs about 5k and also has 150 delay. There are always a heap up for sale as well...

 

[Ronith]

If you're just looking for fast delay for skillups, a Platoon Dagger (L20?) costs about 5k and also has 150 delay. There are always a heap up for sale as well...

Yep!! And with low ass dmg like that, (really low for a dagger, compared to the ones near your lv, altho there's not a huge diff <.< ) but yea, lower dmg = longer fights = more skill ups... something to keep in mind, good suggestion

 

[Angof]

But remember, you don't get any skillups for a weapon if you hit for 0 now. With that said I don't know if a Beestinger is your best option, but I generally use a Garuda's dagger or Hornetneedle, and both seem to hit for damage on skillup mobs.

In terms of your sword, Wize analace is nice, but I always go for lower delay swords when skilling up. Just my personal preferance though.

 

[K. Ishitar]

When i skill up i also exp a bit so anything that is perferably 40 and up since i am 55 ^^;

What about lust dagger? I would LOVE to use garuda's but its 65

 

[Mishaela]

Until you can use Garuda, it'd probably be best to use Platoon (or Hornetneedle, if you happen to have one).

Triple Dagger is more of an offhand dualwielded thing for non-THF, but it's been debated that it's Triple Attack even kicks in with the other weapon.

 

[Legomyeggo]

Until you can use Garuda, it'd probably be best to use Platoon (or Hornetneedle, if you happen to have one).

Triple Dagger is more of an offhand dualwielded thing for non-THF, but it's been debated that it's Triple Attack even kicks in with the other weapon.

50k says Tagrineth bursts in this thread, explaining how Triple Dagger only works on the hand the dagger is in.

 

[Mishaela]

50k says Tagrineth bursts in this thread, explaining how Triple Dagger only works on the hand the dagger is in.

I'll see your 50k and raise you another that it won't be explained how +proc rates supposedly only effect one weapon when +att/+acc/other stats effect both, and the best response I'll get is "it's been parsed dozens of times".

Unless it's been parsed for over 1000 swings and the mainhand didn't triple attack once, I don't wanna hear it. =P

 

[K. Ishitar]

Meaning my thread will turn into a debate/flame wont it?

 

[Mishaela]

Neh, I'll step down. =P But really, Platoon Dagger would be best and by far easiest to get.

 

[Mai Ikari]

Meaning my thread will turn into a debate/flame wont it?

Just like all of them do, unfortunately.


Look, the debate's already begun. e.e

 

[Tagrineth]

I'll see your 50k and raise you another that it won't be explained how +proc rates supposedly only effect one weapon when +att/+acc/other stats effect both, and the best response I'll get is "it's been parsed dozens of times".

Unless it's been parsed for over 1000 swings and the mainhand didn't triple attack once, I don't wanna hear it. =P

I thought I'd be real good this time and link the parser results, but I can't for the life of me find them.

Sigh.

 

[Necrosis]

Triple Dagger isn't worth the triple attack+1%, the low base damage is awful.
You're better off using a Hornetneedle or something.