A whm's true job...

Akisu

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Ok, i've never really posted to the flameboard till now, but I just need somewhere to rant, and throw a tantrum ^^;... logged in this morning and got bombarded with tells while I'm afk for tele's and a raise, everyone was nice, but one person, and it totaly killed my good morning...

Did you all know that whm's true duty isn't to heal things and keep our partys alive? Infact, it's to be personal servants for anyone who needs us on the drop of a hat.

Lately our true jobs are taxis or raisers for partys other then our own. Don't get me wrong, I'll be happy to tele people if I'm not busy. Also if I'm not in a hurry, I'll go raise people in the same zone as me if they ask... *Ask my freinds about this ^^;... They've gotten annoyed before at my kindness when we've been doing things* but if I'm really busy, I'll send you a tell back with a basic (I'm sorry, I'm busy now.)

Honestly, what's going on? People are yelling at me while I'm in xp partys, because I won't disband and teleport them, then go back to my party. Or stop in the middle of a ZM and run 3 zones away and raise3 someone.

*Sigh.* Yes, it's understandable for low level players in the dunes who are just starting out in the game, but, here's the worst part, the majority of players who take their time to rant and rave at me in tell are over level 65.

I've been getting 1-5, sometimes more, angry tells because I won't teleport people, I don't think I'm doing anything wrong, I simply say "I'm sorry, I'm busy doing (whateva) right now, I can teleport/raise you in about so many minutes if I can though..."... and for some reason, lately I've been met with rude comments, even a few rants, on how horrible it all is to get a tele. "What kind of whm are you, don't even teleport." "Are you a noob? Do you even have your teleport spells?" "i bet your a gilbuyer, I offer 20k for a raise and u wont take it" Remind me to pester you guys next time you're in sky farming for items, and I want you to do a random task for me.

Here's a quick example: I'm sitting in bastok, trying to level my alchemy... I've got a full inventory of crafting supplys, and I've got an /sea message saying "Leveling Alchemy, Party: X, I'm sorry, I'm busy." About 20 minutes into crafting, I get a tell from someone asking for a teleport-holla. I simply respond, "Sorry, Busy" and they procede to go off on me for not tele'ing them, complete with cusswords and singling me out, acting like I'm the cause tele's are 1k-2k now instead of 500g and 1k. I'm thinking to myself, *this guy's gotta be either 12 years old, or a total noob.*... So, I do a /sea... rank 8, level 63 pld.... *sigh*

So to that pld and anyone else who's sent angry tells, sorry I can't remember your name, because honestly I didn't care enough to write it down, but whoever you are, yes, I admit, It's my fault. All of it. I've single handedly manipulated the teleport prices, and cause you to have to always wait 20-30 minutes now. So, I'm sorry.

Ya, I know it's bad for some reason... Why? I dunno, greedy pplz? Lazy whms? Just plain busy whms? *shrug* I'm sorry you have to wait 30 minutes to find a tele... don't take it out on me, if you want to whine, please do so here, because nothing kills a fun party like getting yelled at by a random person because I won't drop everything to do what they want.

I myself know that tele'ing is really bad these days, I tried leveling my thf, and it took me 20 minutes to find a tele-dem, and I only found one because I offered 2k, for something that should be 500g.

Anyway, I'm not trying to tell anyone not to ask me for a tele, or raise anywhere, I'll even be happy to raise or tele if I'm just sitting in Jeuno waiting for my static, or a LS event, or just plain bored. Just stop the angry tells, it's annoying. If you're really this displeased with the whms these days, go buy a dang teleport-whatever ring... level your whm, I don't care. Walk. Take an airship. Choco. In that 20 minutes of /shouting for a tele, you could have been there already...*shrug*

/End rant.

With that outa my system, hope yall have a good day, and thanks for listening to my rant, n' sry for my crappy spelling/grammar >.>;
 
Anderithe said:
It happens. My advice is to go annon next time. Not like you were in an xp party.

^^; read my post... it has happened in xp partys, thats pretty much my rant, no one pays attention to what i seem to be doing ever, just gets mad when I say no and do my own thing *xping, lvling, etc..* a blm freind of mine says the exact same thing about people asking for warp2's, and another whm I know agrees w/ me about so many people being rude lately and demanding things so openly...
 
Hey! Quit posting on QCDN and come teleport-dem me, then powerlevel me and my party all day! :wink: lol. (^.^)v
 
No. Seriously. Come PL me then tele us from the dunes to the Highlands to go to Korroloka then take us to Qufim.

You want to level your own job? Why? What about my job?

Seriously that does suck. Just immediatly jump down the next persons throat. That will ensure they dont ask you again.
 
I've got those kind of tells too, thankfully It doesn't go far for me (i tell them i'm busy doing things for LS, or that i'm rushing to get somewhere, which I usually am)

Personally, i like to ask a R1 before i ask any whm about a R2/3 Less downtime, less hassle for everyone involved. As for tele's, I like to tele myself if i can, and chocobo's are everyone's best friend (unless they're 3k+ :wink: ).

When i do occasional teleporting, i like to see the reactions people get when i won't take 1k+ for a little tele (my prices are the old prices)... I do it for their pleasure, and it helps everyone's day. Teleporting is a friendly thing to do, and I like to keep it that way.

As for going /anon, nothing wrong with it, but let's face it, just because we aren't anon doesn't mean we're wanting to help at their convenience.
 
/nod... i dont really like to take the exagurated tele prices, it only helps keep things bad and waiting for 20-30 mins to get a tele, but ive actualy had some pplz get offended that i wouldnt take all of it... go figure, lol... id be happy to get a 50% discount...
 
I have my own solution....

I practically never ask for Teleports. If I *NEED* one, and nobody in my LS is available to help me, I'll shout. Something that I think has happened once in the last 6 months. I've never gone out of my way to ask individual people. I think it's rude as hell to hassle people to do things for you, particularly if you've already /shouted the request in an area where they would have heard you.

Most people that want tele's are just damn lazy is all. "Yeah, I'm in Bastok, but I want Tele-Dem. Why? It's faster!" That statement from someone who's spent the last 10 minutes shouting for a Tele-Dem in Bastok Markets. >.>
 
Heh... I find /away to be a simply amazing feature that blocks all tells from dumbasses like that...
 
to bad it blocks all my freinds out too ; ; lol, blah, thx for the support guys, maybe ill have to start using my /blacklist for ppl who get totaly rude with things in the future =/ *sigh* never wanted to use a blacklist lol
 
Raes, your sig is f-!king massive...


ANYWAYS...only real thing you can do is ignore it and/or blacklist the person. It's quite possible that the average IQ of players in FFXI drops by between 5 and 10 points every month. It's gone to the point where people are so f-!king conceited, they really think that "f-!k u stupid greedy ass whm tele me now lols" will actually motivate us more than just politely asking.


People really needto stop being such buttholes about crap like that, because to have such enormous e-dicks, they really must be trying to compensate for something, badly.
 
myself know that tele'ing is really bad these days, I tried leveling my thf, and it took me 20 minutes to find a tele-dem, and I only found one because I offered 2k, for something that should be 500g.
Please don't say that Aki. :( Teles are worth much more than 500g these days. With the 500%+ inflation we have seen, teles should be 2.5k-5k depending on which you want. 500 was a good price back in the day, but if you apply current inflation gains, they are only worth 100 gil in the old system. That just isn't worth anyones time. That is also why it is hard to get a tele anymore. Everyone is earning more gil because of inflation on all their ah sales, but they are unwilling to pay whms more for teles. I make a habit of teleing anyone I see offering 1k+ for a tele now just to encourage a price increase.

FFXIonline.com has a good discussion on tele prices here.
 
I don't beg for teleports. I just go home to good ol' Bastok. Walk in to the metal works, wave to my friend Conrad, and he sends me to any region I want, except for Tu'Lia. Sometimes for more than it costs for a teleport, sometimes less. It just makes things easier for me, and White Mages who don't want to deal with teleport tells.
 
/nod
I agree with Rones that it makes sense to increase the amount for teleports based on inflation. Everything has gone up, it only makes sense that a service that we provide should increase in value as well. Everyone's time on the game is precious, it's valuable, and should be treated as such.
People that talk about greedy whm's shouldn't pay for the service and should figure out something else to do with their time than to be teleported, that isn't going to hurt anyone, and maybe they'll feel better when they're not spending the money.
It makes no sense to me to pay 1k for a teleport and then yell about it for half an hour because you don't feel like the money was well spent. Walk next time or simply ask for a free teleport, I'm sure eventually someone will help you out. I know I've grabbed people that ask for free ones often, although not much anymore since I gave a guy a lift one time and he decided to sexually assault me in an /emote as soon as the ride was over.
That's a definite case of how one moron can ruin it for others. Anyway, that's how I feel about teleporting.
But it would be highly annoying if a complete stranger started cussing at you because you couldn't help them though. I don't think that's happened to me more than one time though from a complete stranger.
Normally it'll be a "friend" that I partied with one time recently that will start asking me for help with things and then start sending me sad faces and /tells of "awww, can't you come for just a while" or something like that when I'm busy doing things.
It's surprising that I haven't been assaulted with /tells constantly though, considering that 99.9% of the time I'm not anon. I don't like to be anon, I only do it when I'm on an ls event and can't go run off and R3 whoever /tells me...I feel bad saying no lol, but I don't want to waste other people's time that I'm doing an event with.
I wonder if the reason I don't get a lot of /tells is because I have a habit of /blacklist adding anyone that does a moronic /shout in Jeuno or won't quit spamming stupidity in /shout there. I don't have a lot of patience for idiocy anymore really I guess.
I used to feel that /blacklisting people was something that I would never do, but I got tired really fast of listening to the completely disgusting things that some people would shout in Jeuno and my happiness with the game has increased 10-fold.
My suggestion Aki would be to start /blacklisting the minute someone proves that they're really not worth your effort, probably when they start cussing at you. I bet if you do, you'll notice that you're not going to be dealing with as many idiots all the time. /blacklist is wonderful, they can cuss at you all day and you'll never notice or care anymore.
Anyway, that's my advice ^^, hope you figure something out, it's annoying to have to be /anon just because of the morons out there.
/hug
 
Raes, your sig is f-!king massive...

Heheh... Masa made it for me that big... ;_; Besides, for a long time I was the only Galka in the LS, and it fit. ^_~
 
Akisu said:
Anderithe said:
It happens. My advice is to go annon next time. Not like you were in an xp party.

^^; read my post... it has happened in xp partys, thats pretty much my rant, no one pays attention to what i seem to be doing ever, just gets mad when I say no and do my own thing *xping, lvling, etc..* a blm freind of mine says the exact same thing about people asking for warp2's, and another whm I know agrees w/ me about so many people being rude lately and demanding things so openly...

I was referring to when you were crafting. I don't like people putting up /annon in xp parties. :P
 
Raesvelg said:
Raes, your sig is f-!king massive...

Heheh... Masa made it for me that big... ;_; Besides, for a long time I was the only Galka in the LS, and it fit. ^_~


I think she is refering to the board rules:

Please keep Signature images to no larger than 550x200 pixels, and no larger than 50kb in file size.
 
Answa~ said:
The price increase is illogical even when using figures... You can just quest it, and it magically converts into gil... without any loss.

{Warp} II {Can I have it?} {You can have this.} 50gil.

50 gil too low? The scroll you quested magically converts into gil, what more do you want?
 
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