About how i seee it + Question, slightly off topic.

Anttaru

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The way i see it, QCDN's extended video gaming boards have people that pretty much evolved into the flag of the subject, who lovingly reinforces the being of the system.

- Playstation - Firestreak is the one

- XboX - Chasym is the one

- PC - i can only imagine it's none other than CmdrFly, even though that board is made up by casual posting from a wide range of posters.

- Nintendo - This is the question. Who is it ?

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Personally my interest in gaming seems to be coming to an end, i need some fresh hits and i need them soon if I'm to further enjoy computer entertainment. I'm finding the latests releases and demos to be lacking in fun. I'm not feeling the upcoming successors to revive my interest at this point in time either.

If you're in the same boat I'm in, it could be due to other reasons as to why gaming is turning stale, other than games actually being so.

Not to sound bleak, but if the people i mentioned became tired of gaming, that "may" indicate the end of good games within a reasonable waiting period.
 
I am still a gamer but I am no where near as excitable as I once was. I get more excited looking forward to a game than actually playing it anymore. Then again with gaming coverage being as huge as it is there really isn't much a person doesn't know about a game when they buy it. Although I am not forced to go to Gametrailers, 1up, ign, kotaku, etc I end up doing so. By the time a game comes out I've seen so many screenshots, movies, impressions, demo descriptions, etc that the game isn't truly new anymore when you do your first play through.

Well that and much like anime I just see rehashed sameness in most games. I am not sure where the innovation needs be and where that fine line is between innovation and staying true to a genre. I've been playing games since the 2600 and while things look prettier they don't wow me as much anymore.
 
Actually I think that the over-enthusiastic nature of some gamers make most games inevitably disappointments when we actually get them in our hands. For me if a game is good enough that I want to finish it, then I say it's a "good game." However so many people overhype things to the point that expectations are not rational when you get them in your hands. Even games like Mario Galaxy I was done with after a few hours.

Something like Call of Duty I played through the 7ish hour campaign, then played maybe 10 hours online. To me that's incredible. Uncharted I played through and then spent maybe 6 more hours screwing around with unlockables. Halo I beat and spent maybe 2 hours online.

The games I've actually really loved the most were both downloadable PSN games - Gripshift and Pixeljunk Monsters. I'm talking about like... spend 50+ hours on these games and love every minute of it. I think some people are just gamers from growing up and don't want to give the habit up even if with age they get less satisfaction out of it. That's all there really is to it. I think that's what the Xbox achievements are really about - in that you need justification because the game alone is not really enough to motivate you. I don't know. I've got way more blu-rays than games and spend more time watching movies than playing.

Ultimately the best times to be had playing games are with friends offline, either with PCs over a LAN or on a console together. Unfortunately PC is a problem if you don't have a laptop and don't want to lug your desktop around and risk busting it up. I think when you get older and don't see your friends everyday anymore you lose that, and forget part of what made gaming so fun is playing Smash Bros all weekend long or goldeneye or time splitters with 4 or 5 guys, trading off a controller if need be. Some people try to fill in that void with more games to think that it can substitute the fun that ultimately came from being with other people.
 
King of Nintendoland'd have to be either Devi or Hali.
 
Firestreak said:
Actually I think that the over-enthusiastic nature of some gamers make most games inevitably disappointments when we actually get them in our hands. For me if a game is good enough that I want to finish it, then I say it's a "good game." However so many people overhype things to the point that expectations are not rational when you get them in your hands. Even games like Mario Galaxy I was done with after a few hours.

I think part of it has to do with how they still call todays latests console releases 'Next Gen" in this still early state, when they should just call it current generation.

I need a game with ridiculous amounts of replay value so i often find myself looking back. (Because we know it'll come sooner or later) God of War III is guaranteed to be spectacular, but i never liked any of them so it's expected that will last me as long as Mario Galaxy laster you.

Firestreak said:
Something like Call of Duty I played through the 7ish hour campaign, then played maybe 10 hours online. To me that's incredible. Uncharted I played through and then spent maybe 6 more hours screwing around with unlockables. Halo I beat and spent maybe 2 hours online.

Halo 1 is the best of them, and has better replay value i think. My best friend and i still never completed Halo 3 cause it's so boring. It's slightly fun but not enough to keep us interested.

Firestreak said:
The games I've actually really loved the most were both downloadable PSN games - Gripshift and Pixeljunk Monsters. I'm talking about like... spend 50+ hours on these games and love every minute of it. I think some people are just gamers from growing up and don't want to give the habit up even if with age they get less satisfaction out of it. That's all there really is to it. I think that's what the Xbox achievements are really about - in that you need justification because the game alone is not really enough to motivate you. I don't know. I've got way more blu-rays than games and spend more time watching movies than playing.

Well said, I'm 30 years old now, and i grew up playing video games, and since the mid 80's, I've longed to see video games advance. The days that answer my childhood questions is here now, and from the looks of it, things won't get too much more interesting for awhile. If i owned an X360 i would defiantly be an under achiever.

As you say you spend more time watching movies than playing games, that may change for awhile in 2008. I hope these long awaited PS3 exclusives deliver as expected. Namely KillZone II and Little Big Planet.

When i say i hope KillZone II smokes Halo, and even Crysis as a fps, i mean it, cause they are both so ordinary now.

Firestreak said:
Ultimately the best times to be had playing games are with friends offline, either with PCs over a LAN or on a console together. Unfortunately PC is a problem if you don't have a laptop and don't want to lug your desktop around and risk busting it up. I think when you get older and don't see your friends everyday anymore you lose that, and forget part of what made gaming so fun is playing Smash Bros all weekend long or goldeneye or time splitters with 4 or 5 guys, trading off a controller if need be. Some people try to fill in that void with more games to think that it can substitute the fun that ultimately came from being with other people.

Perhaps part of my loss of interest has to do with playing too many single player games.

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To Kurgon:

Kurgon said:
I am still a gamer but I am no where near as excitable as I once was. I get more excited looking forward to a game than actually playing it anymore.

I use to go nuts with Nintendo Power, Playsation, and Gamepro Magazine. Maybe it's mroe exciting to read and look at pictures as opposed to reading and watching footage which really does spoil what's in store for us.

Kurgon said:
Then again with gaming coverage being as huge as it is there really isn't much a person doesn't know about a game when they buy it. Although I am not forced to go to Gametrailers, 1up, ign, kotaku, etc I end up doing so. By the time a game comes out I've seen so many screenshots, movies, impressions, demo descriptions, etc that the game isn't truly new anymore when you do your first play through.

True. Nothing feels new anymore.

I don't even know if i want Gran Turismo 5 anymore. Doing the licensing and all that unlocking the way to your most wanted cars is slavery if you've done it 4 other times already. Although it's possible playing online would probably bring new joy to the game. I'd imagine they'll have events where you're racing against 19 others.
 
King of Nintendoland'd have to be either Devi or Hali.

I don't really qualify, although I update the Virtual Console thread every Monday morning. Sadly, I only own two Wii games; I tend to treat the machine as my Gamecube 2.0. I should probably get off my lazy ass and pick up Metal Slug Anthology and a few others. I can't get excited about Metroid Prime 3, since I prefer that series in 2D and never finished Echoes. I'm mostly counting down to Smash Bros. Brawl and Mario Kart.

But I still love video games. I've been playing since the Atari 2600 days, and it still manages to be fresh and exciting to me.
 
I am still a gamer but I am no where near as excitable as I once was. I get more excited looking forward to a game than actually playing it anymore. Then again with gaming coverage being as huge as it is there really isn't much a person doesn't know about a game when they buy it. Although I am not forced to go to Gametrailers, 1up, ign, kotaku, etc I end up doing so. By the time a game comes out I've seen so many screenshots, movies, impressions, demo descriptions, etc that the game isn't truly new anymore when you do your first play through.

Well that and much like anime I just see rehashed sameness in most games. I am not sure where the innovation needs be and where that fine line is between innovation and staying true to a genre. I've been playing games since the 2600 and while things look prettier they don't wow me as much anymore.

i feel the same way you do, i get overly excited waiting for a game, but when i actually have it, that excitement is just...gone.
When i start playing i feel like im playing another game i already owned, or that ive owned this game for a week already.

ive been playing games since the 2600 also, i still have memories of being a kid sittin there playing Kaboom! or Chopper command. or when the NES came out my grandma would actually play mario with us and we would all take turns, that or MS. Pacman.
Then games were fun no matter how long you played them, you could stay up for hours on end...i still can but i tend to fall asleep more now adays then stay awake on the adrenaline rush.
maybe we are just getting old?
Or maybe its how big the video game industry of today has gotten that its almost not as personal and special as it used to be.

Also, it may seem like im the head supporter of the xbox here at this board, but thats because its the system i own and support currently. I honestly support any system anyone enjoys.
Its up to the player, I may still own a ps3 one day myself, but i currently dont think i would have time for it or have an interest in any of the games yet (except maybe drakes fortune) but when kingdom hearts hits ps3 ill probly be more interested, Possible FF13 but my die hard fandom for the FF series died out around my time playing 11, and i liked 12 it just didnt feel FF like.
Lost odyssey makes me feel like im playing an FF game though.
 
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