Absolution, opening enrollment for all ye misfits

[Bumblebetuna]

TBH I don't agree with this mindset. It says a lot about someone as a person when they are willing to hang around such crowds and stoop to such levels for pixels.

There are sins of commission and omission. Even if someone themselves isn't botting, isn't CFH'ing spiders, isn't sabotaging Darter spawns, they are benefiting from the foul play of other Absolution members. And they are helping those very crooks in other ways by being apart of their shell and shoring up this corrupt institution. All in all, they are doing something bad for everyone by joining these shells even if they don't bot themselves. You can't stay clean hanging around a sewer.

Yes i will Agree with this statement! also you have to look at it from more then one point of view. a new member could join the ls and don't know about all the drama going on and get drug into the pit of fire and be fucked for life on this server just because he joined the wrong ls without knowing the background history of the ls.

Yes it may be in "your" best favor to go join a shell like that. But this isn't about what's best for you. Apply the same logic to a personal level. Everyone's problem with Absolution as a shell they will do anything and everything if it's best for them, regardless of how it effects others. Everyone who personally joins Absolution because it will be the best way for them to get gear is guilty of the same crime.

"Yes may be in "Your" best Favor to join this shell" people that join a shell like this is only in it for one thing and only one thing and that's "Greed" they jump in that shell work for what they want and get out, But looking at it from that point of view all shells have that issues but in a hnm the rules change and it makes it more complicated.

I wish the rules from sky would work for hnms, i loved sky if you got claim ppl would wait til you wiped(but if you wiped at 1% they would give you your item). If HNms worked like that we would not have all this unwanted drama but its part of endgame..

Bottom line is this, its a game if you fail to claim just get tod, its not like S.e is going to stop the mob from poping again....

 

[hellstorm]

TBH I don't agree with this mindset. It says a lot about someone as a person when they are willing to hang around such crowds and stoop to such levels for pixels.

There are sins of commission and omission. Even if someone themselves isn't botting, isn't CFH'ing spiders, isn't sabotaging Darter spawns, they are benefiting from the foul play of other Absolution members. And they are helping those very crooks in other ways by being apart of their shell and shoring up this corrupt institution. All in all, they are doing something bad for everyone by joining these shells even if they don't bot themselves. You can't stay clean hanging around a sewer.

Yes it may be in "your" best favor to go join a shell like that. But this isn't about what's best for you. Apply the same logic to a personal level. Everyone's problem with Absolution as a shell they will do anything and everything if it's best for them, regardless of how it effects others. Everyone who personally joins Absolution because it will be the best way for them to get gear is guilty of the same crime.

Hate to burst your bubble, but had you actually payed attention when I was in dez you would have known it was never about the gear it was about not being in a shady point system and killing all hnms not just the ones certain leaders feel like killing, because they needed the items or drop money items for the bank that more of less was a trust fund for leaders needs. Though even then I stuck by and tough it out until a certain leader got offended when I spook the truth. Although probably for the best and should thank him considering abs does things much better and more fair then dez ever did.

 

[hellstorm]

Yes i will Agree with this statement! also you have to look at it from more then one point of view. a new member could join the ls and don't know about all the drama going on and get drug into the pit of fire and be fucked for life on this server just because he joined the wrong ls without knowing the background history of the ls.




"Yes may be in "Your" best Favor to join this shell" people that join a shell like this is only in it for one thing and only one thing and that's "Greed" they jump in that shell work for what they want and get out, But looking at it from that point of view all shells have that issues but in a hnm the rules change and it makes it more complicated.

I wish the rules from sky would work for hnms, i loved sky if you got claim ppl would wait til you wiped(but if you wiped at 1% they would give you your item). If HNms worked like that we would not have all this unwanted drama but its part of endgame..

Bottom line is this, its a game if you fail to claim just get tod, its not like S.e is going to stop the mob from poping again....

Different is talking 2-4 hour pop and 21-1 week pop depending on mob. 100% drop to .22222222~ drop. In other words apple and oranges. Also no drama in sky ha that funny, there is plenty of drama in sky just never make on here unless someone decide to throw tantrum over losing a mob instead of asking.

 

[hellstorm]

oh and the fact there are hardly any shells that are ccing each other in sky

 

[Bumblebetuna]

Different is talking 2-4 hour pop and 21-1 week pop depending on mob. 100% drop to .22222222~ drop. In other words apple and oranges. Also no drama in sky ha that funny, there is plenty of drama in sky just never make on here unless someone decide to throw tantrum over losing a mob instead of asking.

What world did you live in? When i did sky there was no drama there was this thing called "Respect!"

I will agree with you about Dez, well atless there dyna shell. i ran with there dyna shell for a short time and they where fucking ppl out of 100cc to fund there plds aiges for there endgame and not for dyna. i was cool for the most part until they changed the price on the 100cc from 250k to a lower price.

I left the ls cause i felt like i was getting used to help a pld that never come to dyna but was getting his relic upgraded.

 

[Ryou]

GJ with those critical reading skills Hell.

I've told everyone that left Dez the same thing. I can respect if you didn't like the shell, if you disagreed with the leadership, if you didn't feel it was the right climate. The shell isn't perfect, everyone in Dez knows I feel that way because I speak my mind and I'm not afraid to be downright cruel about it. So if the flaws were too much for you, I can totally understand that.

What I can't respect is how you all ran to Absolution and are willing to support an bloated institution who's success rides on bandwagoners and third party programs.

Just cause you don't like Dez doesn't mean you have to run to join Absolution. I don't like everything about the LS either and sometimes I've very vocal and adamant about things I feel should be changed.

But if Dez broke I'd try to go to Aura, if there was nothing BUT Absolution on the server, I would start a new LS or leave the server. But I wouldn't go to Absolution. That's where you and me are different: I have my integrity, you're just floating wherever you can go.

I'm willing to tolerate what I consider an over-casual atmosphere, or a flawed bank system; What I'm not willing to engage in is underhanded botting and grief tactic sabotage. (Although for your information, through my submission of actual thoughtful methodical well-planned out alternative proposals, rather than whining we don't have a $3k bot, these things are changing)

 

[Falsey]

To Hellstorm: http://www.qcdn.org/ffxi/showpost.php?p=782707&postcount=57

 

[Ryou]

I will agree with you about Dez, well atless there dyna shell. i ran with there dyna shell for a short time and they where fucking ppl out of 100cc to fund there plds aiges for there endgame and not for dyna. i was cool for the most part until they changed the price on the 100cc from 250k to a lower price.

I left the ls cause i felt like i was getting used to help a pld that never come to dyna but was getting his relic upgraded.

It was never changed from 250k to a lower price. At one point it was changed so that 100cc lotters got to keep the coin entirely and sell it however they wanted (market value would be significantly more than 250k) BUT the sponsor was guaranteed to get the first 100cc. This was changed within two weeks back to the 250k payout.

I personally am not a fan of our Dynamis either, but for fundamentally different reasons; I dislike open group Dynamis and would prefer in-shell mandatory Dynamis with sponsorship rules/regulations that treated coins as drops.

 

[hellstorm]

GJ with those critical reading skills Hell.



Just cause you don't like Dez doesn't mean you have to run to join Absolution. I don't like everything about the LS either and sometimes I've very vocal and adamant about things I feel should be changed.

But if Dez broke I'd try to go to Aura, if there was nothing BUT Absolution on the server, I would start a new LS or leave the server. But I wouldn't go to Absolution. That's where you and me are different: I have my integrity, you're just floating wherever you can go.

I'm willing to tolerate what I consider an over-casual atmosphere, or a flawed bank system; What I'm not willing to engage in is underhanded botting and grief tactic sabotage. (Although for your information, through my submission of actual thoughtful methodical well-planned out alternative proposals, rather than whining we don't have a $3k bot, these things are changing)

You kidding right aura the shell that that kills shit slower then what pp or wbc ever did, if they even kill it. The shell that does and has botted countless nids, faf and kb (notice who claim nid during that so called spider incident.) I know you been out loop a bit, but you were at that cerb, you should know better. Furthermore grief tactic sabotage are you kidding me.

 

[Ryou]

So what do you want to call CFH'ing a spider right in the middle of Aery right before Nidhogg force pops?

And once again, good reading skills.

No offense to Aura, but I've seen some bad fights from them. But I have never ragged on them. Why? Because they're just playing the game.

I rag on you because in the process of just "playing the game", you guys have no qualm screwing over anyone/everyone. You use any means necessary to get your claims and your gear, from a slew of third party programs to actively sabotaging other shells. That's why I said anything from that shell is "tainted"

Now if they admit they bot, I'll start ragging on them. But from what I have actually seen myself here's how it breaks down.

1) You have NASA
2) You use other third party tools to keep the Aery empty
3) Now you justify this by claiming everyone else does it too

Your defense amounts to "You're just jealous cause we beat you to the punch!" You can't even process the notion that some people just don't think it's appropriate to give $3000 of money to bot programmers who ruin the game and don't want to cheat to get ahead.

And if we're really going to get down to the speed/skill card?

Sure I will give props to the Demo contingent of Absolution. You? Your brother? You're just piggybacking off of them though. A shell that was entirely the level of you wouldn't be any farther along than Aura -- if you were even close.

Pretty sure Aura can correctly chainspell a fucking Bahamut II, and seeing as they've killed Ixion they got to have some tanks better than your brother.

 

[snowfoxx]

Ok first off I have tanked Ixion many times alone without dying. Second of all You have no room to talk about my tanking when you cant last even half of a Ixion without dying, also you should run off and join Aura they fit your skill level VERY well.

 

[hellstorm]

So what do you want to call CFH'ing a spider right in the middle of Aery right before Nidhogg force pops?

And once again, good reading skills.



Now if they admit they bot, I'll start ragging on them. But from what I have actually seen myself here's how it breaks down.

1) You have NASA
2) You use other third party tools to keep the Aery empty
3) Now you justify this by claiming everyone else does it too

Your defense amounts to "You're just jealous cause we beat you to the punch!" You can't even process the notion that some people just don't think it's appropriate to give $3000 of money to bot programmers who ruin the game and don't want to cheat to get ahead.

And if we're really going to get down to the speed/skill card?

Sure I will give props to the Demo contingent of Absolution. You? Your brother? You're just piggybacking off of them though. A shell that was entirely the level of you wouldn't be any farther along than Aura -- if you were even close.

Pretty sure Aura can correctly chainspell a fucking Bahamut II, and seeing as they've killed Ixion they got to have some tanks better than your brother.

I know you have darter files swaped so why don't you just go change spider files while your at it, and hypicritical for you even mention grief tactics considering the things that went on in vent with dez and the "don't say that in ls, get on vent if going do that". As for the BV2 we failed due to certain dd's not my stun. However you want keep blinders on be my guess. See no evil, hear no evil am I right.

 

[Sevv]

I'm going to stand up for Sevv in this fight, Sevv is a great player yes he is in with a bad crowd but he is trying to work things out in his favor. As for Absolution they are falling apart as we speak ppl leaving and ppl getting kicked.

I see no problem with Sevv he is cool as hell to talk to ingame aswell out of game. yes we had our fight on here but when we talked in game things changed. To be Honest they need to change the name of Absolution to houseofretards, just for the simple fact that most of them are retarded and pull retarded shit at camps(witch have filled up my blist with) none the less they need to grow up and play the game right.

If you don't get claim move on and get tod don't try to bitch out and tempt to mpk the other ls and fail and end up killing yourselfs.

Sevv clear something up for me plz did the owner of nasa leave your ls??

<3 BBT we still need to take our lolfight to xbox live sometime lol.

There is a difference between owner or creator of nasa, if the person who had the nasa rights left the shell would no longer have Nasa. Then again not like there isn't 4 packet bots around this game. And no they didn't leave lol. Also like I said on bg I love how many people think they know how much the shell did or didn't pay for nasa. Oh and ex-demo.

 

[Ryou]

Ok first off I have tanked Ixion many times alone without dying. Second of all You have no room to talk about my tanking when you cant last even half of a Ixion without dying, also you should run off and join Aura they fit your skill level VERY well.

You can't keep Ixion still for DD's, ever. People get fed up and send me tells, that's why I had a habit of just going in there while you're tanking and taking over so that it would be held still. Seji was one of those people for instance.

Or how about all the times you just whined and asked someone else to take over.

Sure I've died sometimes. In fact, I bet I've died more than you. Why? Cause I hold hate so it is actually targetting me. That's something you had to manage while tanking Ixion while it ran off attacking everyone but you.

You're a horrible tank. I said no to your application when it first came up because you looked gimp and you were tank only. Once you were in the shell it turned out I was right: you are definitely not a good enough tank to justify always being one of the two tanks.

I know you have darter files swaped so why don't you just go change spider files while your at it, and hypicritical for you even mention grief tactics considering the things that went on in vent with dez and the "don't say that in ls, get on vent if going do that". As for the BV2 we failed due to certain dd's not my stun. However you want keep blinders on be my guess. See no evil, hear no evil am I right.

1. Pot, Kettle? Half of you shell plays with exactly two sprites in the Aery the entire time, and even then they don't even claim legitimately they go take a ride in space.

2. I had Darters swapped huh? I guess that would be exactly why I was one of the standard Darter targeters? Or why I've casted on Darters before when you have screwed with the repop? Lol.

3. At this point I wouldn't blame people for swapping Darters and Spiders with the way you consistently try and use them to fuck over people who don't cheat.

4. When has Dez ever done *any* "first strike" griefing? I've pulled Sandworm hate to get my group sucked in over PP, and I've fed Sandworm buffs when PP has had claim. Both of those actions were sparked by my disdain for PP for the exact reason I hate you. We've never gone out of our way to screw over people that haven't proven themselves worthy of being fucked with. We never fucked with Perse or Kaizen or Integ's mobs. We'll claim on yellow, but we never "griefed" them.

5. When has Dez done anything even near the level of your prolific use of bots, and your CFH Spider and Darter pop tactics? Those are far more serious infractions that vigilantist retaliations

6. Still no justification for going to Abs? The only retort was that Abso is better than Aura at killing stuff. That doesn't touch any of the normative arguments at all.

7. Hard for DDs to kill when you let a fucking dispelga go through and strip their buffs. HURR DUURRRRRR

 

[Bumblebetuna]

You kidding right aura the shell that that kills shit slower then what pp or wbc ever did, if they even kill it. The shell that does and has botted countless nids, faf and kb (notice who claim nid during that so called spider incident.) I know you been out loop a bit, but you were at that cerb, you should know better. Furthermore grief tactic sabotage are you kidding me.

BITCH SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!! REALLY SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!

Here you go popin off yet again, for Fuck sakes I remember when absolution first come to this sever took Them 6hrs plus to kill tiamat then when when you all where about to wipe you "CALL FOR HELP!" Oh whats this Absolution @ Cerberus there wiping (lets claim) OMFG "CALL FOR HELP!" then absolution was at aspide(there wiping lets claim) "CALL FOR HELP!"

Don't be coming on here down grading a new ls to this server about killing shit slow when you don't know a fucking thing about ur ls past history.

 

[Dowzer]

Snowfox, the Pld without Atonement or a Swift Belt. What's up? Hopefully you can leech some gear that even mediocre players already have. Level another job FFS, you're horrible at tanking and bring no support jobs to the table.

Hellstorm the Battle Mage. Who also wipes to Yowie on RDM. Pro.

I find it really cute when people use a different font for every post they make, nevermind her atrocious spelling and grammar. Gansta slang, so smooth. Hellstorm, you and your bro fit perfectly well in that LS.

Does Chimera even do anything? Nukutasha missing all your events yet? Oh well, keep feeding them your trash items.



Thanks for taking our dead weight.





On the subject at hand, I don't think many people have Darter files removed in Dez. Judging from how many people casted on them. Nice of you to take advantage over that. Competition is competition, however those two instances were simply childish.

Of course people are going to assume how much you paid for pixels, whether you used real money or gil. I've heard it so many times that it's rather annoying and I don't care.

Botting has never really bothered me. You're talking to someone who outclaimed JP bandwidth before the claim patch. That was with the proper ping and framerate, now it's all down to luck and that includes the millisecond timing of packet sniffing. The less (competent) people you bring to camp, your chances go south, not to mention your group D/C.

Keep up the smack talk, it's especially enjoyable. It's something I have missed, mainly from players who left the server or quit the game.

 

[Bumblebetuna]

Ok first off I have tanked Ixion many times alone without dying. Second of all You have no room to talk about my tanking when you cant last even half of a Ixion without dying, also you should run off and join Aura they fit your skill level VERY well.

Dude your tanking skills is about as good as how far i can throw a galka and i'm a taru.. your tanking game is weak..Really I mean Weak!! I have seen you die one to many times to ever trust you to ever tank a Fucking Bunnie, Dude I bet Jaggedy-Eared Jack Could kick your ass...

I would like to add how Sevv is here trying to fix things and you all come on here and shit on him "You all are Great ls mates wish i had friends like you" NOT!!!

Sevv i would love to kick ur ass on live ^^ and i love you too

 

[hellstorm]

Never wipe to yowie, snowfox can out tank gred and bbt together (btw he has swift belt and subs), that all you got come now expect more. BBT stop kissing ass and honestly I have no grief or ill will toward dez or any other shell for that matter. Dez has some great people, to bad got some bad ones as well. I have problem with self righteous people who think greatest thing since the light bulb, yet are hypocrites in what they preaching.

Nothing ever get fix on here and you know it, I know it and everyone else know it. There to many flame junkies that have get there bitch fest jolley on. Only way thing like this can be fix is by talking on vent or tell in the game. Even then it a crap shoot. Only thing come from this section is as dower say and enjoyable 2 sided pissing contest that end up everyone smelling like piss.

 

[Mansin]

As for the BV2 we failed due to certain dd's not my stun. However you want keep blinders on be my guess. See no evil, hear no evil am I right.

be my guess lol


Learn to manaburn Bahamut v2 (you can't, you're in absolution), or keep sucking and wiping to the TP burn fashion. Your LS is a joke if you wipe to Bv2 using a zerg strat.

 

[hellstorm]

be my guess lol


Learn to manaburn Bahamut v2 (you can't, you're in absolution), or keep sucking and wiping to the TP burn fashion. Your LS is a joke if you wipe to Bv2 using a zerg strat.

He is talking about a time in dez, but thanks for playing. Absolution not wiped to bv2 yet in fact we just did one today. dead faster then could get weaponskill off.