Accounts gone missing

Harb's been getting the "policy" thrown in his face. Apparently only current credit card info will suffice for three different SE reps.

Friggin' ridiculous. And there's nothing we can do, short of quitting in protest or something. I really want to, but I don't think enough people would do it to make enough of a stink.
 
Myrid said:
Harb's been getting the "policy" thrown in his face. Apparently only current credit card info will suffice for three different SE reps.

Friggin' ridiculous. And there's nothing we can do, short of quitting in protest or something. I really want to, but I don't think enough people would do it to make enough of a stink.
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Ya, I didn't have access to my acct for a full year because the person paying my acct was awol. She came back out of nowhere, I got the info, changed it, now I'm back in effect.

It's kind of contradictory that SE says dont share info, but when you show proof you are the original holder, they don't do anything.
 
meeze said:
Ya, I didn't have access to my acct for a full year because the person paying my acct was awol. She came back out of nowhere, I got the info, changed it, now I'm back in effect.

It's kind of contradictory that SE says dont share info, but when you show proof you are the original holder, they don't do anything.
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SE? contradictory? impossible! :)
 
Myrid said:
Harb's been getting the "policy" thrown in his face. Apparently only current credit card info will suffice for three different SE reps.

Friggin' ridiculous. And there's nothing we can do, short of quitting in protest or something. I really want to, but I don't think enough people would do it to make enough of a stink.
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Go though the bank and said you paid for a service you're unable to use. That would get SE's attention I bet :p
 
Well the problem with the whole account retrieval thing is SE is well aware that accounts can be sold and they really don't want to get into the incredibly horrid situation where someone sells an account, gets paid, and then calls SE and retrieves their account info some time down the road.
 
Tagrineth said:
Well the problem with the whole account retrieval thing is SE is well aware that accounts can be sold and they really don't want to get into the incredibly horrid situation where someone sells an account, gets paid, and then calls SE and retrieves their account info some time down the road.
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that would be such ownage to gilsellers!
 
Tagrineth said:
Well the problem with the whole account retrieval thing is SE is well aware that accounts can be sold and they really don't want to get into the incredibly horrid situation where someone sells an account, gets paid, and then calls SE and retrieves their account info some time down the road.
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Except this is fine and SE is not liable. The goods in question, the account, were gains as a means of a ToS violation. If SE "returns" the account to the original owner, they are only inforcing thier policy, not violating it. The person that paid for the account, full knowing they bought illegal goods would be basically shit out of luck. Basically you paid for a um... "Donkey Show" that got busted by the bar owner. You think you're going to get your money back?

In theory, the person that bought the account could site Theft. As the 'selling' party aquired money, and gave nothign in return. Ironically, in that same vein, when someone sells thier account typically, the auction is for "A 3" x 5" index card with info. So technically.... There is no theft, they got what they paid for.

I think I will sell Index Cards on Ebay and see how long I will last...

"It's got the account number and password." Just not the right ones.
 
I do like the idea of going through the bank...
 
Did Xtereem have Harb's info or visa versa? Or were the accounts independently stolen/hacked?

Not to point fingers, but odds are one of them downloaded something they shouldn't of, or one of them decided to make quick cash (unlikely seeing how no one can find info on ebay/ige). That's if they had access to each other's accounts. If they didn't isn't there a third party that had access to both of their accounts?

I doubt you can hack a random account, else certain high profile accounts would of been long gone.
 
Love to see a bank do much aside cease payments and maybe pursue or reimburse you for the time you claimed not to be able to use the account.

Also, I can't begin to imagine how nuts that would drive me...

Good luck in the pursuit to regain ownership and hopefully not too much of the hard work put in is lost...
 
Lecreuset said:
Love to see a bank do much aside cease payments and maybe pursue or reimburse you for the time you claimed not to be able to use the account.

Also, I can't begin to imagine how nuts that would drive me...

Good luck in the pursuit to regain ownership and hopefully not too much of the hard work put in is lost...
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If he goes through the bank, he will get SE's attention. I work in the A/R part of a business and it's a pain in the ass when somebody disputes the credit card charges.
 
So SE trys to protect someone who buys an account (thats against ToS), which in effect protects a thief. SE just gives a big middle finger to the person who loses an account.

Is the bill you pay on the first, pay for the comming month? or the last month? Ither way, I might just try going to bank/CC and tell um you want money back for the last charge, as account was hacked and didn't get any survises for that payment.
 
You pay on the first of the month, and that pays for the next month of service; so getting the credit card company/bank involved for paying without services rendered is a perfectly legitimate claim.
 
Your bank can and will help you out, that's why I suggested it. If they don't allow the bank to put the money back on your account, they can take legal action against SE, which would be more trouble then they want. For an extra laugh, you could tell SE about your plan first. Tell them that you either want your account back that you paid for, or you'll take it further. That way they'll be forced to send you over to the higher-ups, which have more flexibility and control, which could hopefully help you out further.

Edit: I'd still like to know when their accounts got stolen though. Was is before or past 1st of September, and if it was before, did they still get charged September 1st? If they did, best case: They could involve the police and file for financial identity theft. Worst case: They could involve the police for stolen goods and stolen credit card information etc, which is basically financial identity theft anyway, but divided in to smaller parts ~.~ In either case, they should be able to make SE give out information about the thief. Although I'm not entirely sure how that works for cross-nation, since Harb is from Sweden =/

Edit: The company I work for get several attempts from people buying our merchandise with stolen credit cards every week. Sadly, the police (at least in Sweden), usually only considers it a stolen credit card and not financial identity theft, since we find out about it before they actually "buy" stuff, which is sad. And usually in these cases, the police puts the case aside in order to prioritize heavier crimes. The amount of online financial identity theft cases per year is so high that the police usually don't bother with it. Just thought I'd throw that in to not get your hopes up too high.

That being said, I still think you should go forward with it. At least then you can't complain about not trying. If you don't take any action at all, nothing will happen and you'll be in this situation anyway at the end of the day. If you do take action though, there's still a chance you'll get your account back. Although I guess this opportunity could be used to just quit the game altogether.
 
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I heard my account got stolen after I quit. Not sure if its a related case, but if anyone sees Anaeran running around again it sure as hell isn't me.
 
Anaeran said:
I heard my account got stolen after I quit. Not sure if its a related case, but if anyone sees Anaeran running around again it sure as hell isn't me.
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I doubt it's related, I heard yours was taken along with Eulore's and Rsouljah's. Account theives who steal more than one don't just attack at random =P they seem to steal related accounts, within good friends or same ls. Aka: someone had access to all 3 accounts saved, and a program probably stole all the info for all accounts.

That's one big reason you shouldn't share account even if you trust the person. I personally know the account info of about 3-4 other people, none of those are saved to my computer, odds are the trojan horses work by finding the passwords saved to PoL and sending that file off, rather than by the use of a keylogger. If I'm right about that, and I screw up somehow, only my account should be lost. Also at the current time no one but myself has access to my account, and it's not out of a lack of trust, rather as safety. I occasionally let people on my account, but for short periods for a specific reason, I change my password, let em on, then change it back. Even that has its risks of me losing my account, however it does help pinpoint where something went wrong if my account was stolen.
 
rsoul was the only one of those three that was still playing at the time... eulore quit shortly after he server transfered. And from what i hear they got 4 accounts ... they got Rsouljah, Ssouljah, Anaeran and Eulore
 
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