Aced is a big fat Joker

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meeze said:
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

It is his own fault for not warning the party what a bad player this guy was. He not only wasted his own time, but that of 4 others.
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He did give a warning. Do you read like the first three words of every paragraph, or what? -_-

Address my other points. Don't concentrate on the only one you can reply to.
 
Your first "point" isn't a point at all, it is just speculation. Right? go read it then you can tell me, you're just speculating how the party formed.

And here goes how I would see the first fight

Aced: I'm leaving after I lvl

Party: TNL?

Aced: 137

Usually how things work? My guess is they said "well, lets just pull and we'll find a replacement" Had they found a replacement this probably wouldn't even have made the FB, just like the first incident didn't make the FB cause they got a replacement.

They pull and he levels leaves and this kid comes here to tell a sad story about how this guys is a bad player...even after knowing he was a bad player the first time he leveled with him. Nice.
 
Sneezy said:
Today, I picked up another party, and Aced was in it. I asked the leader if she had partied with Aced before, and she said that she hadn't. I told her to just be gentle with him if he started doing things wrong, that he doesn't take advice well without throwing a fit, so kid gloves would be needed to make sure he didn't bail or get ugly.
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Is this part he warns the party about a shitty player? Looks to me like he's saying don't piss this guy off or he'll leave.
 
meeze said:
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

It is his own fault for not warning the party what a bad player this guy was. He not only wasted his own time, but that of 4 others.
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Everyone deserves a 2nd chance.
 
meeze said:
Your first "point" isn't a point at all, it is just speculation. Right? go read it then you can tell me, you're just speculating how the party formed.
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It's as much speculation as was your initial complaint that he "left Jeuno" with this person. You speculated too, right? It's every bit as valid, yet you were the one that called him on it as if it had happened that way. You didn't even present it as a "might." You just chewed Sneezy out as if that was the way it had happened. It's absolutely acceptable to come to someone's defense based on what might have happened; it's best to withhold judgement if there's any doubt. I don't think the same could be said for bitching someone out about something that might have happened. As far as making judgements about something we're not sure about is concerned, you've committed the worse sin ... if any were committed.

meeze said:
And here goes how I would see the first fight

Aced: I'm leaving after I lvl

Party: TNL?

Aced: 137
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Well, you've basically justified ignoring something I said because it was speculation, and then you (literally) make up a conversation that may have taken place. I mean ... hahaha, oh, never mind.

What we do know for certain is that Aced only piped up with this information just before the first kill, telling the rest of the party to "hurry up." This could mean the situation was anywhere from the puller bringing the mob back to camp, to it already being engaged. At the very, least, they certainly weren't any more than several seconds from a pull, perhaps a minute at most. I mean, with things that close, was the party honestly supposed to put the brakes on that first pull just to put a stop to Aced's selfishness?

Even with the most generous of estimates, the information came too late to do much about it. The only one to blame here is Aced himself.

Anyway, I won't derail the thread any further. Enjoy your point of view on this one: I think you're alone with it.
 
Trippyhippy said:
Everyone deserves a 2nd chance.
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You read the first party? Does he look like he is ready for a 2nd chance?

You want a second chance you have to earn it, they aren't just handed out.
 
i can understand missing a dispel if your busy refreshing and enfeebling the party, thats when a RDM has the least ammount of time. personally, i wont join a party if we're taking on mobs that need to be dispelled and we have 5+ people that need to be refreshed, theres just not enough time in the party for me to do what i need to do.

Beka said:
He is definitely on my "do not invite this RDM list"
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although, i wonder how many people's "Do not invite this RDM" lists im on..? im guessing over 5...
 
Winklewil said:
It's as much speculation as was your initial complaint that he "left Jeuno" with this person. You speculated too, right? It's every bit as valid, yet you were the one that called him on it as if it had happened that way. You didn't even present it as a "might." You just chewed Sneezy out as if that was the way it had happened. It's absolutely acceptable to come to someone's defense based on what might have happened; it's best to withhold judgement if there's any doubt. I don't think the same could be said for bitching someone out about something that might have happened. As far as making judgements about something we're not sure about is concerned, you've committed the worse sin ... if any were committed.


Well, you've basically justified ignoring something I said because it was speculation, and then you (literally) make up a conversation that may have taken place. I mean ... hahaha, oh, never mind.

What we do know for certain is that Aced only piped up with this information just before the first kill, telling the rest of the party to "hurry up." This could mean the situation was anywhere from the puller bringing the mob back to camp, to it already being engaged. At the very, least, they certainly weren't any more than several seconds from a pull, perhaps a minute at most. I mean, with things that close, was the party honestly supposed to put the brakes on that first pull just to put a stop to Aced's selfishness?

Even with the most generous of estimates, the information came too late to do much about it. The only one to blame here is Aced himself.

Anyway, I won't derail the thread any further. Enjoy your point of view on this one: I think you're alone with it.
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I actually knew you'd call me on my speculation. Fact is, most parties leave from Jeuno. When someone says they leave after they lvl, people ask what their TNL is. My speculations are the norm in this game. Do you agree?

Now you speculated the party didn't leave from jeuno, most parties don't form that way.

my speculation is based more on how things generally work, yours was based on how things usually don't.
 
Point of clarification

meeze said:
This was your second time xp'n with this idiot and you still left Jeuno with him in your PT?
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Let me end the speculation. On the second (most recent) party I referenced in the OP, I was invited by someone already in Kuftal. I went there, and immediately before I zoned into the tunnel, I saw Aced and thought "I hope he's not in my party!" - well, I got the invite, and sure enough, he was in it. I gave him the benefit of the doubt, since he didn't show up in a quick search on these flameboards and I figured he may have just had a bad day last week. I figured the guy did deserve a second chance, but warned the leader to be cautions anyhow.

Point being, I did NOT deserve this, nor did the rest of the party that was assembled before I arrived. I don't know if you're a friend of Aced and are just trying to distract everyone here from the issue, or if you're just taking what happened to me out of context, but the reality is, I felt people needed to be warned about how Aced acts in exp parties, and I figured this was a good place to put my concerns.

And, no, he's not getting a third chance with me. At least, not any time soon.
 
What we do know for certain is that Aced only piped up with this information just before the first kill, telling the rest of the party to "hurry up." This could mean the situation was anywhere from the puller bringing the mob back to camp, to it already being engaged. At the very, least, they certainly weren't any more than several seconds from a pull, perhaps a minute at most. I mean, with things that close, was the party honestly supposed to put the brakes on that first pull just to put a stop to Aced's selfishness?
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Escape {Do you have it?}
Warp II {Do you have it?}

Why in the world would you try justifying getting this asshat his level, at the very least they should have not done anything and waited for him to take hate and then kicked him from pt. At that point in time they shouldn't have raised him just for the simple fact he's a selfish piece of shit. End of Rant.
 
Give them a 2nd chance, but 3rd, 4th..

IRL the bible (yes I'm quoting the bible) says to give your fellow man 70 times 7 chances (the idea is to never stop,) but in a game, you can't really say the same thing. it's really sad for this guy, if he changes his attitude he'll still be scarred forever because of this flame.

sometimes I hate how much of a influence this board has on the server's NA population.
 
Wait just a minute. This party was already formed in Kuftal. I'm guessing sneezy was a replacement? Or there were more than one replacements that showed up?
 
Tymon said:
it's really sad for this guy, if he changes his attitude he'll still be scarred forever because of this flame.

sometimes I hate how much of a influence this board has on the server's NA population.
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Let's be honest, there aren't all that many people who've been Flameboard topics that have reformed. If it gets a shitty player who contributes nothing to cancel their account and do something else with their time, all the better.
 
Real honesty is that he'll be 75 soon and in blessed eternity within a few months. No one gives two fucks about what goes on here, even the ones who read on a regular basis. People that have been dragged through the mud here continue on these boards, and people kiss their ass like nothing. Take a look at shaidalyn. Got ripped a new one by friends and LS mates, yet is still invited by qcdn members on missions and other things.
 
Absolutely true. The best cure to a shitty reputation is Job Change -> Bard.
 
aced needed a tank last night i go whats your TNL he said 1.2k or something i asked if he is leaving after that he went yeah but i will look for some 1 to take my place
1.2k? as a rdm wtf solo that in a hr XD
 
meeze said:
Wait just a minute. This party was already formed...
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It was in the process of being formed, I was the last to arrive. They hadn't started fighting anything before I got there.
 
wow this guy seem like a real peice of work. Lol i amit despelling in kufal was hell but that is his job. In more fact not refreshing leading to slowing party down = worse. I see meeze have no since of imagination agian. The guy was in the party already to critsize the PO for staying in party and hoping that maybe the red mage had a bad day is not really called for. Party not easy to come buy as they use to be at mid lvl im sure he/she take what he/she can. Can see why you had alot problem with your last ls.


The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.
Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948)
 
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