Advancing the Homosexual Agenda

[Halifirien]

Where does the government have a say in this? The government is dictating who is allowed to get married. This is obscene. What’s next, the government telling us who we have to marry? Why don’t we just bow our heads and let the government arrange our marriages.

I know the school of thought that says marriage is between two people and the government shouldn't be involved, but those people probably aren't worried about joint filing of taxes, trying to share insurance coverage or hospital visitation or inheritance rights or custody of children or thousands of other perks that come with marriage, etc.

Let me know when you join us in the present, where governments have been recognizing marriages as a way to promote stability for centuries.

 

[Jamba]

I'm rooting for you guys, but it's going to be a long, bitter fight before you see true equality in this regard.

No doubt.
But--and I'm sure this applies to many others in the gay community--I'm content in knowing that we're moving forward.
This is the beginnings of a coming avalanche that'll eventually overtake the nation, especially with the next generations growing up with a more open and accepting perspective.
The way I see it, whether or not this happens in my lifetime, or any of our lifetimes for that matter, is of minor concern in the grand scheme of things.

"As California goes, so goes the rest of the nation. It's inevitable. This door's wide open now. It's going to happen, whether you like it or not."

 

[Jamba]

"Also, as I have said in the past, I will not support an amendment to the constitution that would overturn this state Supreme Court ruling," a statement from the governor said.

"Today the California Supreme Court took a giant leap to ensure that everybody - not just in the state of California, but throughout the country - will have equal treatment under the law," said City Attorney Dennis Herrera, who argued the case for San Francisco.

I totally read the second paragraph in my mental Ahnold voice.

Odd, 'cause the second paragraph wasn't even a quote from the governator.
Haha. XD

 

[alanon]

Marriage is more socially acceptable. When you say "I'm married," people know what you mean. When you say "I'm in a civil union," that could mean almost anything. Hell, I could have a civil union with my sister as long as we live together and share expenses. Civil unions aren't just for gay people.

I guess it is just semantic interpretation. I see marriage as a civil union. Get the civil union and call it marriage. Those who are you friends and love you will see it for what it is. Those that don't - fuck 'em! (Before someone says that is pretty easy for me to say in my position, know that that is pretty much my stance on EVERYTHING).

Last year, I went down to Dayton, Ohio for a gay rights parade/gathering/convention because two of my friends participated in a big wedding ceremony. Aside from the Nazi skinhead fuckers across the street (and I'm not just namecalling, these were actual Nazi skinheads that I came this close to getting into a brawl with) and the idiot exhibitionists running around in the public fountain in their underwear (I'm sorry but they knew what was going on; quit acting like children and show some respect), it was actually a very nice ceremony. It wasn't legal in any way, but my friends and the other couples involved really enjoyed it and really loved each other. Which in the end, is all that really matters.

 

[Tymon]

I really don't care either way on this. If someone loves someone else, they should be allowed to marry that person.

I really don't think there is going to be a massive national burst of gay marriage in the next 50 years, though. Most of my.. mm.. colorful friends are even less interested in marriage than I am.

 

[Halifirien]

It wasn't legal in any way, but my friends and the other couples involved really enjoyed it and really loved each other. Which in the end, is all that really matters.

Except that it's not all that really matters in this country. There are a lot of nice benefits that come with marriage, and your friends are not receiving them unless they jump through a ton of legal hoops that might, if they're lucky, get them somewhere close to the ones conferred by a marriage certificate.

You'd have to pay an attorney thousands of dollars to draw up all the documents you'd need to gain some of the rights Britney Spears got in a five-minute stop at a Quik-E-Wed in Las Vegas... and that's only if your family doesn't contest the documents.

I don't know your friends, but you have to entertain the possibility that they had their ceremony because that was the best they could hope for.

 

[Guyfox]

My only question is what happens when a couple legally married in California moves to a state that has already amended their constitution to prohibit gay marriage (sup VA). I expect we're going to see this move on to the US Supreme Court soon, and there's going to be a huge, huge fight there.

I'm rooting for you guys, but it's going to be a long, bitter fight before you see true equality in this regard.

I agree with Fellina here. It is hard for a handful of people to change the mind of their country. We saw it many years ago with racial equality but eventually history was changed. It is only a matter of time before things are set straight with gay marriages as well.

Gay marriages are not promoting people to become homosexual. People are what they are and at least now this group of people in cali can be happier.