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Hard to answer that question since there's 15 different jobs with AF2 and AF+1, and 5 slots for each.
 
just depends on the job really. But for DRK, I would rather use AF+1 than AF2 simply because it adds STR. AF2 doesnt really add a lot thats useful
 
So your a 75 PLD, I would choose AF+1 Body over the Valor Surcoat if you had the items to synthe it. But Kaiser Cuirass is wayyyyyyyy beter than both having more +HP for Gods and +20 VIT and +20 CHR. Supposedly CHR helps KEEP hate rather generate it though the post that I read I can't find anymore ><. So it is pretty up to you and the situation you're in to choose the body, and you'll have to weigh the pros/cons to see which is the better one.
 
Like most gear questions in this game, it's typically situational. DRK AF2 is pretty limited for the most part, but several pieces have a measure of utility for certain aspects. (Body/Legs/Hands for casting Drain and other spells, for example; and in theory you could macro in the Sollerets for Last Resort if for some reason you really wanted to reduce your Def loss.) Also you can occasionally find uses for pieces based on secondary stat mods for WS.
 
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So your a 75 PLD, I would choose AF+1 Body over the Valor Surcoat if you had the items to synthe it. But Kaiser Cuirass is wayyyyyyyy beter than both having more +HP for Gods and +20 VIT and +20 CHR. Supposedly CHR helps KEEP hate rather generate it though the post that I read I can't find anymore ><. So it is pretty up to you and the situation you're in to choose the body, and you'll have to weigh the pros/cons to see which is the better one.
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chr doesnt affect hate in any way SE cleared that with an interview a awhile ago.

It affects intimidation procs, and the such
 
It all depends, for my blm I normally would use my AF+1 hat for nuking, when hate is less of an issue, demon helm+1, and when fighting certain mobs that resist a lot, I use the af2 hat.

When I did nothing but hnms and stuff, my af2 hat was used the most, when I merited and did sea and easier NM's, af+1 all the way. Now that I only do dynamis really, it's demon helm+1 only (except xarc and glacier's boss).

When I did a little bit of everything, I was glad I had all three :biggrin:
 
There was a test between two PLDs, one in full out +enmity and the other +CHR. The +enmity PLD gained hate a lot quicker than the other one but the +CHR one kept the hate longer. The only real difference between the characters were the races (unless the mob was racist >.>), I'll have to find the forum it was one but I know I read it not too long ago. Anywhos, +CHR does help the killer traits so when you buddy it with Flawless Ribbon or Bahamut's Mask it helps a lot.
 
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It really depends on job. Some jobs have some awesome AF2 but rather unimpressive AF+1 (see RDM). Some jobs have some awesome AF+1 but rather unimpressive AF2 (see SAM). Some jobs are a mix depending on which piece you look at, but for most the answer is something to the tune of "it's situational" or "it depends".

Honestly, in order to get a more useful answer to that question, you'd have to specify a particular job. :P
 
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KyRen said:
Hazzah !!!! Found it kekeke:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/jobs.html?fjob=12&mid=1141890991104244661#114258602343275260
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You do realize that thread you quoted has one person making hand-wavy unjustified claims that CHR affects enmity, and a bunch of other people denying that. And the cited tests in the exact post you linked to, while they do back up your +enmity = faster hate generation claim (which is fairly obvious and agreeable), shoot down your +CHR = slower hate decay claim.

So yeah ... wherever you read a reputedly convincing test about CHR and hate decay, it wasn't in that topic. :P
 
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Or take the example of the Errant set that Scar already mentioned. If Chr really reduced hate decay, by the end of long fights tanks would literally be unable to peel the hate off mages wearing this gear since the large +Chr boosts would prevent their hate from decaying quickly enough, even if the -Enmity from the set reduced how much hate was initially generated by each spell.


I'm just going from personal experience: chr just flat out doesn't effect any hate or enmity at all. Only things that effect enmity are enmity+/-, dmg to the mob, dmg you take, dmg you cure, stats you buff, and stats you debuff/stun/sleep.

these paragraphs are by 2 different people but this is what i'm getting so far, and if Square-Enix say's it doesn't then wouldn't they know best?
 
KyRen said:
Hazzah !!!! Found it kekeke:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/jobs.html?fjob=12&mid=1141890991104244661#114258602343275260

From it there is a small hate spike (which is why BRDS and other mages don't gain a lot of hate during HNMs) but the amount of hate after long fights increases the mob's enmity towards +CHR ppl.

Anywhos, this thread is about which is better AF+1 or AFv2 and each piece of equipment is situational.
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What part of that post said anything about CHR affecting hate decay?
 
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