Ahomi: Flat out racism

pakomen

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I'm not trying to spark any kind of racist drama, nor am I trying to generalize. I'm in more Japanese LS's than I am NA LS's due to the timezone I play on, so that's definitely not what I'm trying to accomplish with this thread, but if there's one thing I positively cannot stand on ffxi it's Japanese racism that I have seen from quite a few Japanese asshats. From the time I started ffxi up til now, it has always been there, and I'm sure it'll always be there all the way until I quit.

On Saturday night, I was standing around town in my beastmaster gear contemplating farming or getting a bit more of an exp buffer when I suddenly see in shout in Japanese "Operation Desert Swarm. 6x blm. Do you need it? Please tell me." from this guy named Ahomi. The /shout was entirely in Japanese, mostly in Kanji, but I could read and understand what he was shouting about.

So, I shoot him a /tell "75blm <Please invite me>" making use of the auto-translation tool like only stupid NA players obviously know how to use.

To which he responds with a "Ha~i" (Ok~)

I go back to my moghouse and change from my bst gear to my blm gear, which at 75 takes a god awful long time. Basically, if I do this, I plan on staying in that new set for the remainder of the day. 10 minutes later, I come out, go to grab an Imperial Silver Coin for the warp and Ahomi STILL hasn't invited me. So, I send him a /tell "Is everything ok? Are you going to invite me?" in Japanese.

To which he responds in Japanese "Are you Japanese?"

Me >> No, but I can understand Japanese, and I've done this ks30 many times (In Japanese)
Him >> <I don't speak any english>
Me >> I'm speaking Japanese...

To which he basically ignores me the rest of my tells or has me on his /blacklist by then.

At this point, I'm telling my main JP LS about the event and how Ahomi already basically said "Sure" about me joining, and how I wasted all that time switching gear, grabbing my seals, etc. Few minutes later I see Ahomi and a crew of JP blm's up grabbing their Imperial Silver Coins. I can't really do anything, so I'm just sitting there /fuming at him.

Twenty minutes later, he shouts: "Operation Desert Swarm. 6x blm. Do you need it? Please tell me. Have 5 blm. Need 1 more"

Fucking infuriated.

Ten minutes later it's still going on, so I start shouting like a noob "lmao @ ahomi"

Every single time he does his little shout, I return with my lmao @ ahomi. Hopefully I made his blood boil at least just a little. Eventually, the shouting stops so I figure he's done and found his last asshat blm.

Anyway...

Long story short, I've ks30'd with countless JP blm's. Usually, once I get the point across that I know the strategy (what strategy?... thundagaIII > sleepga > blizzagaIII) and speak the language, the group is A) impressed with my Japanese and B) ready to go.

But every now and then you just end up meeting these total douchbags who just refuse to even give you a goddamn chance.

What pisses me off so bad is

1) I could read and understand his Japanese and use of Kanji
2) I was responding to him in Japanese (in romaji, however, but still Japanese)
3) He said yes when I first asked

and despite that he still refused to give me the benefit of the doubt.

Anyway, I'm not targeting all JP players, and I know there's good and bad in all races, but this shit just makes my blood boil. And there's nothing you can do about it really.

If I do see him up in Mount Z as blm/rdm without a party, I am going to go out of my way to camp right on top of him though. I guess all I can really do is lower his exp enough that he moves somewhere else, and then do the same thing over and over again. Not a whole lot of options. It's just infuriating is all.

And that's my rant.
 
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Skaw said:
Racist Japanese; News at 11.
I know. It never gets old. But it always stays infuriating.

Try playing on Japanese time for 2.5 years. And after those 2.5 years, try not to become a racist American. It's harder than it looks boys and girls!
 
pakomen said:
I know. It never gets old. But it always stays infuriating.

Try playing on Japanese time for 2.5 years. And after those 2.5 years, try not to become a racist American. It's harder than it looks boys and girls!

Yup, I failed that test (1 year on Japanese main playing time) started putting some stupid shit in my search comments >.> luckily I still have a few japanese friends..
 
pakomen said:
I know. It never gets old. But it always stays infuriating.

are you as infuriated as i get when i see "legit" players play with rmt?

My guess is yes. To which I will ask, why is it ok for you to voice your frustrations over this here internet, but when I do you scream bloody murder?
 
meeze said:
are you as infuriated as i get when i see "legit" players play with rmt?

My guess is yes. To which I will ask, why is it ok for you to voice your frustrations over this here internet, but when I do you scream bloody murder?
Because you do it in an assholish fashion when I do it as respectably as I can.

Notice how I didn't name the other people who joined up with Ahomi?

Yeah.

And why are you trying to hijack my thread? I had to hold back the urge when you were spamming the boards looking for help for your noob friend. But not you. Where's the self-control?
 
ok, I'll be nice next time I call out an idiot hanging out with rmt.
 
Sounds good. See you later.
 
pakomen said:
Because you do it in an assholish fashion when I do it as respectably as I can.

Notice how I didn't name the other people who joined up with Ahomi?

Yeah.

And why are you trying to hijack my thread? I had to hold back the urge when you were spamming the boards looking for help for your noob friend. But not you. Where's the self-control?

Nice edit lol. I believe you followed me around my RMT threads and derailed the shit out of them enough.

I was just wondering how you justify you bitching about something pissing you off ingame, but tell me not to do the same.

And what do you possibly have to say about me helping someone who has spent the better of 3 years soloing and finally reaching out trying to get group projects accomplished?
 
meeze said:
Nice edit lol. I believe you followed me around my RMT threads and derailed the shit out of them enough.

I was just wondering how you justify you bitching about something pissing you off ingame, but tell me not to do the same.
Dammit. Thought you were gone. As I've said, I don't agree with how you handled the whole madness thing. A lot of people agreed with me actually. And your fangroup agreed with you.

And then you accused me and another guy of being the reason RMT exist on the server. When that's highly unlikely as I've been busy for the past 6 months or so solo-farming all the sea obis, earrings, and hundreds of thousands of limit points.

Basically, I don't agree with your lofty conclusions. Nor the way you handle yourself. I don't like rmt. I don't hate them as much as you, but I don't like them. Yet, you can't seem to get that into your head. The fact that I'm not as apeshit angry about them as you somehow makes me out to be the reason they exist.

When, as I said, that's impossible. Because I just got back from a 6 month haitus solo farming every sea obi and relaxing earring. And a new baby. And a full time job.

meeze said:
And what do you possibly have to say about me helping someone who has spent the better of 3 years soloing and finally reaching out trying to get group projects accomplished?
I personally think it's a good thing. I was quite pleased to see you doing that. I almost volunteered to help you. I had some witty remark I was going to post saying something like "I like what you're doing but I'm not going to help because you're a douchbag". But I kept it to myself and it never made it's way out to the internet.

But anyway...
 
pakomen said:
The fact that I'm not as apeshit angry about them as you somehow makes me out to be the reason they exist.

See, this is what gets me. You and your fanbase told me not to get all worked up over a game, and all this other crap, yet you get "infuriated" over the racism in the game. You set a double standard. It is ok to get pissed of at stuff I get mad about, but if it's something I don't get mad about it's stupid.

You further make a hypocrit of yourself by talking about how you leveled BST just to MPK them. The reason you got pissed is because it was a friend of yours, but you took it to a whole level of me going on a crusade against RMT, when you yourself went on one.

I personally think it's a good thing. I was quite pleased to see you doing that. I almost volunteered to help you. I had some witty remark I was going to post saying something like "I like what you're doing but I'm not going to help because you're a douchbag". But I kept it to myself and it never made it's way out to the internet.

It isn't helping me, it's helping Lululn. Go ahead and set something up, I've tried a few times to get a run going, but I usually don't get much help since most NA are asleep and I don't know any JPs.

I get the same racists like the kid you talked about who tell me no thanks and make their stupid little faces.
 
Hey, we're all hypocrites in our own way. I just try to be as least harmful to the general population as I can, while you go out of your way to drag those who don't agree with you through the dirt.

To each his own.

Anyway, if you need help with Lululn in the future, hit me with a /tell. When it comes to the game, I'm good at putting differences behind me to meet a goal.
 
meeze said:
You further make a hypocrit of yourself by talking about how you leveled BST just to MPK them. The reason you got pissed is because it was a friend of yours, but you took it to a whole level of me going on a crusade against RMT, when you yourself went on one.
Sorry for the delay, I didn't even see this part till I got home from work.

I did start bst because I was mpk'd by creativ. BUT I still haven't had the chance to mpk him. Probably because I don't go out of my way, which I'm sure would be beneficial to me in terms of getting rid of work related stress. But, I never went on any crusade. The only rmt I actually killed were rmt who were in the same zone as me trying to get me killed. I don't actively hunt them down.

Which, again, maybe I should. To help rid myself of some work related stress.

ANYWHO

You're doing the mission vs. the three antican's, right? If you are, I trio'd that fight with pld, whm, and me as blm way back in the day. I'm sure we wouldn't have that hard of a time with the three of us if you wanted to give it a shot. If I'm mistaken on what mission your friend is on, I'm sorry. If it is that one, I've been wanting to do it again for the hell of it anyway. It's a fun fight.

Edit: yeah, edit. Trying not to hit that damned edit button. What level is your pld? For the fight. It's not actually 50 is it?
 
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About the origional post if it makes you feel any better back when I lvled brd to 75 and especially during JP times I always had 1 comment. <Japanese> <No thanks> :) <3 BRD LOL and when they'd be bold and ask me to pt I'd only respond <Japanese> <No thanks>. LOL And since I lvled BRD I havent pt'd with Japanese once not with THF or any job. :) I've seen 'em fuck shit up so some much it's made me sick. Oh and you can call me rasist if you like I kinda like that. :)
 
I think if I took up brd at this very instant I'd probably be very tempted to do the same thing.

But, 2 of my favorite players and best friends are JP. I can't understand half of what they're saying, but we get a lot done and have gotton a lot done together.

And I'm in 3 hot JP LS's (limbus, social/fafnir, cop/events) that I have a blast with.

The social one picked me up as a lvl50ish blm because we were in a good party together and I could understand them while they were dogging on something in pt chat. lol. Have stuck with them since.

This shell eventually led me to my limbus shell.

And the two aforementioned JP players got me through CoP and a shitton of assaults and into that event LS.

I wouldn't be anything in this game if it weren't for meeting the above people.

So, I have a lot of thanks and respect to give out to JP players. Hiira, Naryu, Nina, Takatin, Elrond, Kikyi, Rogner... these are some of the coolest/nicest/most skillful players I have ever met. With players like this, race doesn't mean shit. We play ffxi to play a game together.

Now people like Ahomi on the otherhand are just spoiled closed minded children.

Sometimes it takes a lot of effort to not become one of them. Even if only for a small amount of time.
 
pakomen said:
I think if I took up brd at this very instant I'd probably be very tempted to do the same thing.

But, 2 of my favorite players and best friends are JP. I can't understand half of what they're saying, but we get a lot done and have gotton a lot done together.

And I'm in 3 hot JP LS's (limbus, social/fafnir, cop/events) that I have a blast with.

The social one picked me up as a lvl50ish blm because we were in a good party together and I could understand them while they were dogging on something in pt chat. lol. Have stuck with them since.

This shell eventually led me to my limbus shell.

And the two aforementioned JP players got me through CoP and a shitton of assaults and into that event LS.

I wouldn't be anything in this game if it weren't for meeting the above people.

So, I have a lot of thanks and respect to give out to JP players. Hiira, Naryu, Nina, Takatin, Elrond, Kikyi, Rogner... these are some of the coolest/nicest/most skillful players I have ever met. With players like this, race doesn't mean shit. We play ffxi to play a game together.

Now people like Ahomi on the otherhand are just spoiled closed minded children.

Sometimes it takes a lot of effort to not become one of them. Even if only for a small amount of time.

oo Takatin is nice. I've spoken with him a few times. Sorry to hear about what happend to you bud. /cheer
 
Whoa Whoa Whoa

did someone call Lululn a Newb? Shes proly one of the most skilled players in this game she soloed all of her jobs to 50+ lol shes insane.

Lululn is a beast and should not be refered to in any other way but a crazy devoted and unique player.
 
whos the Blm that leveled to o75 with no sub? i cant recall but etc
 
meeze said:
One of my noobs, a prospective DRG (don't ask how that happened in my LS) is actually the one who taught me about big fights.
Sorry, was in the thread about laluln when I first read the statement. Must have gotton confused. Anyone who solo's 50 levels is either a bst or a monster. :)
 
What is this bullshit? I see a shaky truce forming between Meeze and Pako. This simply will not do. Continue hating each other and slinging mud prease. How the fuck is a Troll supposed to eat if ya'll make peace and cut off the food supply? Jesus.
 
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