Aht Urgan only please

Faule

Faule

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Well, I recently got back into partying on my thief today. I was very excited to get a great setup with my party. Everyone agreed to go to Mamook on spiders. We even had people run all the way there because they didn't have the staging point. I do agree that the sanction is awesome in the new areas and the exploration is great too. Even the EXP bonus is good too.

But once we got there, we realized that the spiders, well, suck. Best we were getting is Chain 1. Long fights, at least one death to our poor tank, and most of our party wiped with a single link.

Oh look! No one's in Bibiki Bay! Why not go there? Answer: "Aht Urgan only please"

Uh... why? The camps we could go to here are overcamped with over 50 people. EXP bonus is useless if you can't chain past chain 1 and have to wait forever on repops AND have others competing for the pulls. Doesn't it just make sense to go to Bibiki Bay when there is NO ONE there in our level range?

Come on people. What the hell would you have done if there were NO expansion? Even Bibiki is part of an expansion. God forbid you go somewhere that isn't brand new and shiny.
 
If thats true great satic is going to bibkia alot i hope and if its clear go go cannon ftw :P
 
I XP wherever, the areas surrounding Al Zahbi are nice, but I don't like fighting for mobs that much, wherever the pt is, I will go, ptd in Gustav today (Saw Bune. . .) had alot of fun there, valley of sorrows last night, and terrigan, been traveling alot and having fun.
 
People want Imperial Standing so they can get their Walahandro Turbans or whatever they're called. I'm sure once most people have those they'll slowly start to head back to old camps to xp again.
 
The thing is, Aht Urghan was created with the mindset that people wanted more EXP areas toward's end game. Once you hit level 53, you can pretty much party all the way to 75 there.

Sanction not only gives the EXP bonus, but the selective Refresh or meal duration bonuses are also a ton of help. IS is also nice, considering the rewards for it. On top of all of this, pretty much every mob is on a 5 minute or so repop timer, AND there are so many EXP spots with a slew of mobs available to kill.

One of the best things the EXP bonus does is make people not whine when you chain VT mobs, because you still break 150 EXP a kill for the most part, and kill MUCH faster.

All in all, if you know what you are doing in Aht Urghan, you can get MUCH better EXP than you ever will anywhere else, based on the EXP bonus alone. Not to agree that no one should EXP outside of Aht Urghan, but I highly encourage for the amount of bonuses it gives.

PS: It's fun fighting new mobs...The AI on some of these new mobs is incredible, makes the EXP grind so much more interesting.
 
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Let's not forget the best reason of all to EXP in Agt Urghan only: Imps. I swear, those mobs are a hair shy of being soloable. Competition aside, they've gotta be the best EXP mob ever - as offensively weak as crabs and no HP or defense.
 
XPing in ToAU areas means 15% XP bonus, 100k gil or so per 10k XP, free Refresh/Regen/double food duration and easy mobs that in most areas repop in 5 minutes or less.

If you're going to drag people out of ToAU areas you'd better promise at least 8k/hour because spending time in Valkrum II is a waste of time. Maybe if you see the main Deco camp open or all of KRT is empty that's an alternative but there's so many more reasons not to party in the middle lands anymore if at all possible.
 
Dont forget the mog lockers.
 
We we're unluckily killing Spinners. Nothing new about spiders. They still suck. And they still link.

We searched Caedarva Mire. 30+ people. Searched Bibiki Bay. 0 Our level.

The bonus wasn't worth it when we could kill faster out there and get more EXP.

It was just odd to notice the attitude of "Aht Urghan only Please" to just about every question or suggestion given. That is what was so remarkable.
 
Can some one explain what they mean by a free regen/refresh/double food?
 
when you get sanction you get the option of spending about i think 20 IP to get refresh regen or double food time
 
The point Faule is trying to make though is that the new areas are totally over-crowded. No one is arguing the benefits of Sanction and the bonuses you can "buy" with your Imperial Standing.

The point is everyone is so gung-ho about EXPing there that it's the only place they wanna go to. It was really sad when I joined a party as a 62RDM and when we talked about camps it went something like this (the party was formed in Whitegate btw):

"We should exp outside!"
"There's too many parties out there already."
"Then where do we go? Cuz I don't know any other places besides Bibiki Bay."

C'mon people, there's assloads of EXP camps in the higher level range. Yes Imperial Standing is nice, sanction bonuses kick ass, but what's the point if you're not getting any kills? I've heard horror stories about merit parties having to compete with 5+ other parties in a single area. That's just stupid IMO, no matter how fast they respawn. If the whole reason you go to AU is cuz of the fast respawns, but you're still waiting for repops cuz of too many parties...shouldn't that be a hint?

People really need to start using pages like ffxicyclopedia and somepage to search for suitable EXP mobs. I swear sometimes I'm the only person who ever suggests the raptors in the 2nd basement of Kuftal at the 60s, for example. C'mon people, you can do it! If you're posting here I have no doubt you can use google and find some new camps :P.
 
I was in said exp pt and I agree leaving Aht Urghan was a must at this time (and I'm so sorry for the disconnect >.< I couldn't reconnect all night.. whole day gone >.<) but in general I now don't feel like exping outside of Aht Ughan.. Why bother? So I can get less exp with no reward with slow repops and slow kills? No thanks.

Fact is new areas are better in every conceivable way.. The only reason I accepted Bibiki was I knew the tank and he's a good guy so I figured enjoy the PT, even with less than amazing exp (we did really well in Bibiki due to no comp). New areas are fun.. I'm sick of killing the same pixils with different names for 70 levels.. I like that I finally see new things, new abilities, new areas... It's exciting and makes the drudgery of leveling much more tolerable.
 
EXP in the new area is great for my pld, an extra 1 MP tic is just plan awsomoe! But I take exp anywhere, since I rather take a party sooner and start getting exp then wait longer for a party in the new areas.

What were the jobs that sead "New areas only!" I would have done a search for replacements. lol. Party exp is still influanced more by party setup and skill then where you exp.
 
I already liked many of the older areas, and this overcrowding you speak of has only made me enjoy the old spots more.

Peace and quiet.
 
Considering, on my BST, I can get up to chain 5 off the same 3 mobs, I do not see how the MANY MANY of camps ToAU created could all be overcrowded for any level 55+ party. I've exped in a good level 55-60ish spot for the past few days and have not saw one party... It's your own damn faults for not FINDING new camps :D I find exping in non ToAU areas a waste of time now. I get better XP per hour grinding out levels on DC-EM than fighting T-VT's in the old areas. Overall it just makes more sense to level in the new areas you just need to find the correct camps.
 
Those buffs seems great no wonder why party wants to lv there a rdm/smn in a vermilion with a brd and cor could get a 12mp refresh a tick there XD
 
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