An ultimatum...

[hellstorm]

lol this post got little further from what Nasya
wanted I think. Nasya asking if the leaders wanted to make a hnm/god leader board on this site, so they can talk about sultion to problems, not to become 1 big shell or to take the world from the jplayers.

 

[Palidine]

I understand I do not belong to any of these LS's nor am I high enough level to be considered for the actual fights. but, if I may add a suggestion?

Why not employ the use of other LS's in the clearing of an area during these battles?
If getting enough people to show up to properly take down an nm is an issue why not open recruitment for a lower level (60-70)team? A team used to assist in helping during main events. it would also be a good resource pool for up and coming members...

This is after all the internet and we all know to win online it takes quantity as much as it does quality. just doesn't seem to me that conventional NM hunting methods can work in these high profile situations. you guys need to restructure and get orginaized. rather than going after them like a band of mercenaries, get it together and PWN it like an army. It would seem to be all to easy to make MPK impossible to do, while at the same time reducing chances of wipe.

just mho. thnx for the time

 

[Daveman]

I understand I do not belong to any of these LS's nor am I high enough level to be considered for the actual fights. but, if I may add a suggestion?

Why not employ the use of other LS's in the clearing of an area during these battles?
If getting enough people to show up to properly take down an nm is an issue why not open recruitment for a lower level (60-70)team? A team used to assist in helping during main events. it would also be a good resource pool for up and coming members...

This is after all the internet and we all know to win online it takes quantity as much as it does quality. just doesn't seem to me that conventional NM hunting methods can work in these high profile situations. you guys need to restructure and get orginaized. rather than going after them like a band of mercenaries, get it together and PWN it like an army. It would seem to be all to easy to make MPK impossible to do, while at the same time reducing chances of wipe.

just mho. thnx for the time

Having lvl60-70 people in most of these ls's would be unfair, since the lvl60-70 people wouldn't be able to do many events with the ls, and wouldn't get any items/drops as it'd be unfair to take that from the main force who does most of the work. The spiders that are used to mpk in boyhda are T-VT to 75, so a lvl60 player would be mostly useless in helping fight against these.

Also claims are rare in these camps, having a large "army" there is difficult, this is why things shuch as gods/dynamis are easy to get attendance for, you can garantee action in these situations, while on a land king, you may get to fight like once a month putting in 3hrs/day of camping.

Also we do not use conventional NM hunting meathods here, and we are heavily organized, as you can't simply slap 18 people together and hope they can kill fafnir, you need well structured pts and knowledge of what to do during the fight, and what not to do, one person's mistake can cause a complete wipe or even worse, one person messing up could literally kill upwards of 80% of the people in the whole zone (flail ~.~).

 

[Arctyrael]

I feel like such a noob posting here. However, imo swapping MPK's will not help. It will just widen the rift, and then there won't be peace at any HNM/God spawn. I would not be surprised to see individuals of both nationalities support causing mayhem at another ls's event out of spite. Now granted there is due cause to be upset, it ticks me off too, but giving an ultimatum might expound the issue more than it is now.

A possible solution would be to just to work together until the JP realize we won't back down. Bring mass support until they get it in there heads that we are serious. Who knows, maybe we will gain respect going the non-MPK route.

I just feel introducing this route will make it harder for linkshells to not face MPK at all HNM and every other event they do.

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And no, I have not camped these ultra high level in game mobs. I'm looking at it from an outsider looking in so this is only open opinion and nothing first hand.

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But go go for the forum. That does sound like a really good idea. That way no linkshells schedule Hakutaku on the same day x.x;

 

[Daveman]

I feel like such a noob posting here. However, imo swapping MPK's will not help. It will just widen the rift, and then there won't be peace at any HNM/God spawn. I would not be surprised to see individuals of both nationalities support causing mayhem at another ls's event out of spite. Now granted there is due cause to be upset, it ticks me off too, but giving an ultimatum might expound the issue more than it is now.

A possible solution would be to just to work together until the JP realize we won't back down. Bring mass support until they get it in there heads that we are serious. Who knows, maybe we will gain respect going the non-MPK route.

I just feel introducing this route will make it harder for linkshells to not face MPK at all HNM and every other event they do.

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And no, I have not camped these ultra high level in game mobs. I'm looking at it from an outsider looking in so this is only open opinion and nothing first hand.

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But go go for the forum. That does sound like a really good idea. That way no linkshells schedule Hakutaku on the same day x.x;

This "ultimatum" is something other ls's has had active for a long time now, the rift is too wide already, there are certain ls's whose leaders are simply assholes, and you can't reason with them. They want what they want now, and they don't want to let anyone take it from them, ailia would mpk any ls who claims nidhogg gladly if there was reasonable chance of success. There is no respect to be gained from certain jp ls's, read proph's post (or the cleaned up version >.>) it's not just NA ls's who are doing this, other JP ls's also have this problem with certain ls's (who all happen to be jp, which is why people commonly say "jp" despite it not being all jphnmls's).

 

[Dresdan]

Yo! Eh~. A lot has happened in my absence apparently. I'm a bit drunkish, but I'm going to post anyway . More or less I will sympathize with Nasya. My LS mates responded well here. Working together is for the sake of our LS. Counter Camping and whatnot greatly upsets members within an LS when they have friends all across the game. I think we should ultimately attempt to work together at least. However, I must say this, I will always act according to the wishes of my entire LS. My priority will always remain to be my own family. I can see conflict in this, as I feel every LS leader will feel the same, or so I hope. But, I think if we all got together, we could work something out beneficial for us all. My LS has been looking into starting up HNM for some time now. I would rather avoid any drama. I say make the board. I'll PM pupusa with the ESP sackholders and support this idea of an Endgame board. Cheers - Dresdan the Gale

 

[Tymon]

Yo! Eh~. A lot has happened in my absence apparently. I'm a bit drunkish, but I'm going to post anyway . More or less I will sympathize with Nasya. My LS mates responded well here. Working together is for the sake of our LS. Counter Camping and whatnot greatly upsets members within an LS when they have friends all across the game. I think we should ultimately attempt to work together at least. However, I must say this, I will always act according to the wishes of my entire LS. My priority will always remain to be my own family. I can see conflict in this, as I feel every LS leader will feel the same, or so I hope. But, I think if we all got together, we could work something out beneficial for us all. My LS has been looking into starting up HNM for some time now. I would rather avoid any drama. I say make the board. I'll PM pupusa with the ESP sackholders and support this idea of an Endgame board. Cheers - Dresdan the Gale

The gale? My ass. /slap

Good post for being drunk though.

 

[Dresdan]

This forum is actually up now. If anyone actually wants to use it for whatever <.<

 

[Nasya]

Funny i don't see it. Guess i'll PM pup again.

 

[Dresdan]

He put it under linkshell area.

 

[Foofighter]

Colbwa wrote:
Actually we're all richer than all NA except Affinity (and even they have exceptions...the Mithrapride girls wouldn't even be in Affinity if I hadn't of destroyed Mithrapride in January.)

Don't ever talk about our shell again. You know nothing about us except that we outclaim you and your gilseller buddies consistently. Oh yeah, and quit search following us to NMs.

Affinity is perfectly fine flying under the radar and getting the job done.

 

[Miros]

Beastmasters can charm spiders, and they are all but useless in a fafnir/nidhogg fight, you can also go for the suicidal bard method we attempted at Aspido. Bard casts horde, then runs away. The best way to do this there would have them not drop down and horde the mass as they are being brought in. Make sure they are outside of any party when they do this, otherwise you won't solve a thing. Hell, at faf/nid bard might actually be able to survive this.

I just have to bring this up cause I'm the lonely beast trying make my existance mean something in end game parts. But! Spiders are definitely charmable, I have a friend who solos down there with the spiders at level 75. I haven't been down there myself to check out how they rate to me since I'm only 73 so far.

If the MPK issue down there is such a hassle, then I would suggest that some people take advantage of us. If there's one thing I hear from my friends who are BSTs a lot, it's the fact that they have such a difficult time getting into End game LS's. I'm not sayin take us in full time ... But I just had a thought...Maybe creating an all BST mercenary (sp) LS to help subside MPKs at certain HNMs would prove to be profitable...

Regardless, I'd love to help out control mobs during an HNM attempt like Fafnir. We are out there. Use us if we want to be used. ;p

As for the merging of the linkshells that some people have mentioned. As Peter Griffon says... "Come on!"

As for the retaliation proposal, I say do it.

And these are my thoughts since I can't get into those other boards. Good luck to you all!