Another dynamis thread?

[Khajit]

Oh woe is me. I’m now going to have too much free time on my hands. I might actually have to do events that have drops useful to me. This is such a sad tale. I could start from the beginning but instead I will go back to last Monday.
The scent of anticipation for the arctic chill filled me with that wonderful tingly feeling. There was dynamis to be done and NOTHING could be more enjoyable than pressing an assist macro for 3~4 hour when looking at a loot pool. Ah but this day was different from the other days. For this day I had a new lv 75 so I had something to lot in there. And not only that. But it was something that was actually useful to said 75 job. No. nothing as spectacular as giving a wyvern storetp/regen/fastcast/”uh zashin?”. Why it wasn’t even as magnificent as enhanced gilfinder. It was just boring old fastcast. Why would a rdm ever need fastcast? I mean... they have haste already don’t they?
At the time of this run I had at least 20 points above the next/first person in line. The run was being run by the mighty and just Hellfirebrimstn. Oh so sadly the tiers hadn’t been updated to the current point totals so in his omniscience he declared that instead of looking at those whom had declared a new tier and then looking at point totals on the same thread that he was reading off the tiers from to see who was in the lead in the interest of “fairness.” Now. Like a little petulant child, no a moron, no a pathetic little kid holding a temper tantrum in a crowded supermarket with a family rich enough to know that I would not be in for the most painful buttwhuppin of my life no matter how bad I get I decided to skip the run. So sad. So sad. For such a little thing I ruined what had been a perfect attendance record for northlands.(not including times where it would have been illegal for me to attend the run. My priorities were obviously skewed since the prospect of being sent into a military prison for being awol and/or getting fined $300~$500 minimum is nothing compared to the thrill of the game)

Less than 5 minutes into the run a RDM body dropped. It is obviously a body that I did not deserve since it’s not like we had some sort of tracking system in place to decide whom deserved an item more. You know. Like one of them newfangled point systems? But of course such things are unreliable for determining how much a person worked in a ls. A chorus of joy fills the light of vanadiel as Hellfirebrimstn declares the next person in line for rdm body. Why it is none other than hellfirebrimstn! Oh I am filled with regret for doubting his wisdom now. It all because so clear. I saw the error of my ways and so did Moriarti for he was actively saying that he would have gladdy kick me for being immature enough to not attend that run. This is truly a fitting punishment for a heinous crime like mine. I’m sure everyone here agrees.

Oh btw. A second rdm body dropped.

Now in rolls Friday.
After a delightful conversation with gladdy (which I will share later)I go afk for a second to find my just reward given. Is there more to this story? Stay tuned for the next instalment “ Wait, I’m the one that had relic stolen from me yet im going to have my ls destroyed?!” You will see amazing concepts like that guy who didn’t need anything from dynamis since http://www.qcdn.org/ffxi/showthread.php?t=55908 (that’s around march to those that don’t wanna click) was doing it to pad points instead of actually wanting to help a ls that helped him.
Note: to put the 20 point lead into context each run gives 0.5 points for being early, 1 for the run, and 0.5 for being at the end. This means that 20 points is equivalent to 10 runs or 2 ½ months of attendance.

 

[Moink]

You blow up on HFB and you blow up on or atleast I think on Gladdy... but you don't blow up on Galiant, who by all means is more at fault than either two of the players you mentioned within lolDynamis. Rather then have HFB deal with the situation as he did, as in assigning someone to assist Galiant with tiers and updating the site, You and two others left the run.

HFB did what he felt was best and he managed the run to his best of his ability. You weren't the only one who was "jipped" or would have been jipped had Koga actually dropped that night.

 

[K. Ishitar]

not to water the op down, duelist tabard shines the best in solo situations as far as reducing recast/ speeding up stoneskin, utsu,etc. for standard stuff, cures/haste/refresh. At least it wasn't the chapeau is all I can say, if the above is true sorry for your loss man but don't feel too bad about losing the body more likely to see it sooner than a hat drop.

 

[Khajit]

So galiant was at fault when despite him not updating i have a 2 1/2 month lead which means that UNLESS i managed to skip 3 months worth of dynamis a 1 month period i would have clearly been in first no matter what?
How exactly would that have meant that Galiant is at fault for a DIFFERENT individual not taking the time to sped 30 seconds comparing points and using logic.

 

[Moink]

I didnt say HFB wasn't wrong, I said Galiant is more to blame then HFB is.

HFB went off the unupdated list, is he to blame because that list wasn't updated? no
Had HFB spent time to take into consideration of the points necessary for you to be on the top RDM tier then this wouldnt have been a problem. But it was time to enter and he had lil time to even announce the tiers. He wanted to go in and so we did, the tiers wasn't his responsibility to update and he doesn't have the ability to edit the tiers.

 

[Khajit]

It would have taken 30 seconds moink. with all the times we have entered late how is being 30 seconds late an issue?
he even had me point out that i was on rdm tier so it's merely a matter of looking at my points and then looking at the clear lead that i had over the entire tier. Blaming galiant is bullshit and that's a blatant attempt to make him into a scapegoat.
And to khidir on the "at least i didnt lose the rdm hat idea. Well if you think about it i technically did. I was second in line and the person in first traditionally logs out early to go to sleep so it was a 50/50 chance to get said hat.(and yes i did have a 2 1/2 month lead in points over the next in line as well)
At the time i was kicked it was while i was in xarc because we had a xarc run sceduled. and to boot the person in first got a hat (idk if anymore dropped) so now atm until they erase my points I AM first in line for a chappy.

 

[Moink]

Who the hell am I scapegoating here?... Damn it... What part don't you get in "They're both to blame"?

I give up if you can't understand that.

 

[Khajit]

Oh i understand but my opinion is different since unless there was some minuscule point difference wherein the person that's in first is questionable there is no reason to think that it was unclear who had the most points.
Look at the tier page.
http://loldynamis.guildlaunch.com/f...id=7c28e57cb31aa5f18056b9bb870ffa1c&gid=32896
determining who was in first was simply a matter of comparing the points of the person in first to mine and then Scrolling down to confirm that I had actually declared myself as rdm tier complete with a week old timestamp.

Please tell me what was so hard about that? there are two reasons for a person not being able to do so. incompetence or it was planned. IDk which is was but I do find it suspicious.

 

[Jeska]

At the time i was kicked it was while i was in xarc because we had a xarc run sceduled. and to boot the person in first got a hat (idk if anymore dropped) so now atm until they erase my points I AM first in line for a chappy.

Best to accept what happened and feel secure that you are now next up for a hat, unfortunately debating this with the leaders and creating a flame here isnt making your situation any better, their decision is final and if you dont play ball with them you may find you get an even longer delay on next drop.

 

[Audino]

Best to accept what happened and feel secure that you are now next up for a hat, unfortunately debating this with the leaders and creating a flame here isnt making your situation any better, their decision is final and if you dont play ball with them you may find you get an even longer delay on next drop.

If Khajit got fucked over I can't blame him for being pissed. Some people don't easily say "oh well" and move on if they've been wronged. And if he's the leading point total for something and they don't let him lot for not liking his attitude, that's a pretty piss poor shell.

 

[Moink]

And if he's the leading point total for something and they don't let him lot for not liking his attitude, that's a pretty piss poor shell.

I wouldn't say it was because of an attitude problem, if anything laziness or frustration over the point that HFB was the only leader that run or both... idk only person who would know probably wont say.

 

[Audino]

I wouldn't say it was because of an attitude problem, if anything laziness or frustration over the point that HFB was the only leader that run or both... idk only person who would know probably wont say.

That's cool. I was referring to Jeska's quote, though. Not to what happened on the run.

their decision is final and if you dont play ball with them you may find you get an even longer delay on next drop.

 

[Dowzer]

Jeska, they kicked him before our run in Xarcabard last night.

I was the other who left that Glacier run.

As loyal as I have been to the shell, I found it to be utterly disrespectful towards LS moral and a blatant misuse of leadership.

I believe other reasons for his dismissal were for shady attendance and disregarding shell policy. Kohra announced the situation to the LS but did not elaborate about those vague reasons for Khaj's removal.

I do believe making a thread like this really seals the deal, Khaj. While I support your argument, it was in pretty bad taste, in my opinion. I would have much rather you kept this between yourself and lolDynamis, instead of posting here. Though, I don't blame you for being pissed off.

And Khidir, he lost the chapeau last night. Two dropped as well.

 

[K. Ishitar]

wtf...

i can understand his attitude causing serious waves, but at the very least let him get what he earned for then ask him to leave on mutual terms if it was a serious issue(he only started talking about last monday when it could have been an issue from longer?).

I don't really see where it's totally wrong to call them out on that on something they didn't give him credit for twice(or four times however you look at it). I could stomach taking a hit for a mistake but if it's twice on the same and something obvious I'd think there would be something behind the scenes there.

If I understand this right

 

[pchan]

Hmm, so, it seems to me that you complaining about not being of top of the tier is the excuse they were waiting for to quick you. That's pretty shitty considering the time dynamis equires and the rarity+usefullness of those relics.

 

[jyakotsu]

While being one of the leaders of LolD, I remember alot of discussion going on with Khajit. Mind you, this was a long time ago, when I still played. If I remember correctly, Khajit would go to far extents to try to make sure he would meet the necessary requirements to lot in northlands. Basically what that means, is making sure that he only had to attend northlands. Which was really shady. I personally had no real problem with Khajit in the shell, versus many other people that we had to deal with on a run to run basis. Kohra Ramp and Gali all know the group I am referring to.

Anyways, it sucks to have been "booted" with all those points. But honestly Gladdy would NOT do that without proper reason, nor would he do it without confirmation with the rest of his council.

 

[mdkuser]

I understand you khajit , same happened to me and pchan in our dynamis LS. We had perfect attendance for 3 years, then skip a few run in June and the leader decides to erase our points, so we leave, leaving the shell w/o any decent sleeper and puller (almost!).

 

[Lenneth]

wtf...

i can understand his attitude causing serious waves, but at the very least let him get what he earned for then ask him to leave on mutual terms if it was a serious issue(he only started talking about last monday when it could have been an issue from longer?).

Oh man, what game have you been playing all this time? I'm not doing any flaming here despite being on right board for it, I'm just saying that every shell I've ever seen would rather screw over a person who isn't happy rather then "do a fair and just thing". It's the sad truth of FFXI.

 

[K. Ishitar]

that was really me asking for clarification and making sure this is adding up the way I'm understanding. I know it happens, been there done that. I've been really fortunate to be in a really good shell they make mistakes like anyone else but still they wouldn't outright do that. LoLDynamis has been around for awhile I'd just expect the same, but I can't speak past what I know.

 

[Kohra]

Let me outline exactly why Khajit was removed from lolDynamis. This was not just a sudden thing, this was an accumulation of things that have been ongoing for at least 6 months.

The two major rules Khajit has broken and/or exploited are as follows:

1-2 Respect for the shell

“We only have each other; we depend on EVERYONE in this shell”

Gladdy.

We are all here with some of the same thoughts in mind. Please remember to be courteous to your shellmates and to the business of the shell. If you have an issue please keep it to /tells so that it does not effect the rest of the shell or the run.


4-2 The no lot rule

Due to issues regarding the roster, we are adjusting the rules regarding attendance.
As always attendance is not mandatory, however, we have set into place a way to make sure that those who do come to dynamis on a regular schedule are not losing out to those with very scattered attendance. The rule works in this manner. If you miss 2 consecutive runs you will be deemed marked. The 3rd missed run will cause you to lose your lotting rights for the next run you attend. Once you are in marked status every 2 missed runs will constitute 1 run without lotting rights; i.e. 3 = 1, 5 = 2, 7 = 3, etc…
This penalty is not permanent as you will work off your missed runs with every run attended with out lot rights. Please understand this is not intended to be a punishment, but a way to insure that all members stay current with the shell so we can asses our strength for things like Dynamis Lord and the Animated Weapons for upgrades.


Khajit has shown blatant disrespect for not only the leadership, but the shell as a whole. This goes from rude, unwarranted remarks in LS, to attacking members in LS to disregarding shell policy. Said policy goes hand in hand with his absenses. Khajit would pick and choose which runs he chose to attend and exploited our no lot rule by missing two runs, and attending the third. While he would be skipping runs, usually to go do something else in game, he would sit in shell talking and socializing. Leadership has warned him about such on several occasions, only to be ignored.

So yes, Khajit may have had perfect attendance in the Northlands, but his activities during other runs, when he was specifically told he was needed, was a slap in the face to everyone in the LS.

The problem regarding the tiers has been addressed, and points are being sorted out based on attendance records.

HFB was right to use the points posted on the tiers. He was the only leader on at the run to my knowledge, which means he was organizing everything. He didn't have the time to go figuring out points, and may have made a mistake in trying to do so. To suggest he did so for his own gain is preposterous. Anyone that knows HFB knows he spends countless hours helping other people with nothing in it for himself. I applaud him for all the efforts he made that night in holding everything together and making the run happen. I also appologize for not being there.

From what i heard, Khajit pulled his usual tactics of skipping out on a run, and then sitting in shell to generally aggrivate members.

Friday night i held a brief meeting before the run, and one of the issues that needed addressing was Khajit. It was a unnanamous (i'm sure i spelled that wrong) vote to remove him, so he was. There was no vast conspiracy to prevent him from getting gear. Hell i wasn't even aware he was on the RDM tier until 3am friday when i posted the shell audit on our forum. It was simply a case of leadership saying we had let things go on far enough, and something needed to be done. He was given countless warnings and chances to redeam himself, which he chose to ignore. Botting him was the consciquences of that.