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Mishaela

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Yeah, I know in a way this is an all-out stupid idea, especially since PLD lose the benefit of Double Attack from not subbing WAR, but it seems to work oddly well on my NIN so I was just wondering....has any tank tried subbing BRD? =P It doesn't have any voke, no...but if you cast Foe Req/Lullaby, it gets more or less the same hate, plus you could give your party some odd little buff (and every bit helps, right?)

Respectively, the usefulness of this would be MUCH less if an actual BRD was in the party, but otherwise, what's everyone's opinion on this? =P

Just to note - Lullaby+Requiem give some pretty horrible hate..imagine if someone in enm +10 gear used em vs voke? =P
 
You are also losing Defender and some VIT that WAR sub gives. Plus you can't use the Mercenary's Earring (+2 VIT if you sub WAR), although you can use the Singer's Earring (+5 Evasion if you sub BRD).

If you really can grab hate similar to Provoke with Lullabye and Requiem, then I say this might be an idea. I just think that the things you lose (Defender, Double Attack, Provoke, some VIT, etc) don't make up for the gains of a few songs.
 
Another good thing to note - at level 64(67? somewhere around there) you can get a Minuet and Minne earring. Don't remember what Minne does, but Minuet gives +3enmity if you have Minuet status (+1 str and 1 dex I think?), which would also help quite a bit.


But yeh...think this needs some testing....and not to say how good this would be fer PLD, but from what I've seen it's great on NIN..
 
I don't think as a sub your sleep is going to affect the monster.
Foe lulluby is lvl 16. You're talking now at the very best scenario, lvl 32 with lvl 16 brd strength. And you can't equip mary's horn, and if you use CHR gear you are ruining your defense.
Hell before I had Astral Signa I had trouble with lulluby on IT++ monsters as a main job bard.
 
Maybe I'm wrong, never played bard, but when it's subbed, you cannot equip an instrument, therfore are'nt you limited to only one song effect at a time??? So you can really just have one buff or debuff effective.

Just saying..... if that is true, I don't see the point of subbing brd or am I missing something?
 
you can have one buff and one debuff active (per member/mob)
 
I know the answer to this is most likely "cannot" but since I have never seen or heard it myself I'll ask it here.

What if there are 2 bards in party? Can there then be 2 songs on 1 player from each bard for a total of 4 songs on 1 party member? For instance bard #1 plays Sword Madrigal and Valor Minuet, Bard #2 plays Vit Entude and Knights Minne on the pld. This would be pretty interesting if it worked, though my guess is not.
 
Darkdante said:
I know the answer to this is most likely "cannot" but since I have never seen or heard it myself I'll ask it here.

What if there are 2 bards in party? Can there then be 2 songs on 1 player from each bard for a total of 4 songs on 1 party member? For instance bard #1 plays Sword Madrigal and Valor Minuet, Bard #2 plays Vit Entude and Knights Minne on the pld. This would be pretty interesting if it worked, though my guess is not.
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Quote yes there can be 4 different songs on one person. As long as the are not the same soong. like in your example. But if you play the same song then you only have the Stats of 1 song. ex. Bard 1 plays Ballad then Bard 2 Plays Ballad you still will only have 1 Ballad song.
 
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