Are you a whm thinking about joining BoL?

[decidence]

Why do you keep trying to compare Busta's absense to everyone elses... the only reason Busta's absence wasn't excused was because he didn't keep us up to date as to when he was gonna be back, if he was gonna be back or what... it clearly states in our Rule Book which is publicly viewed btw... (yes you can all go read the whole 83 rules).

2.0.4 Members that plan to be away from the game for an extended period of time must make sure leadership knows ahead of time, and continue to update the leaders on a regular basis of your status.


So what other facts are there to go over... do you want me to post my schedule for last semester at school so you can compare it to our Weekly Schedules at the time? At least I made it to the majority of the events that I was available too... keeping in mind it was final semester and I had just as much homework and project hours as school hours (private technical school is a bitch). But at least I was around for those 3 months.

 

[Moch]

I did answer your question. Scroll up.

Notice how leader was quoted by me? Because I was in charge of recruiting.

Why am I responsible for WYS getting the second abj?

WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR BUSTA GETTING THE NOBLES?



GG FOOL GET AN LEGIT ARGUEMENT OR GTFO

Because leaders talk behind everyones back and even my own while I was "a leader". They had a special point system, which has now been changed time and time again (atleast 3 different point systems now). Leaders have a good way of setting things up for themselves when they are attending more than others.

WYS had racked up his hours and did indeed deserve the 2nd pair of mitts. He wanted them because he had cursed mitts -1.

And because he had cursed mitts -1, that meant it would help out the LS more than another BLM who didn't have any cursed mitts. /sarcasm off


You still fail to address my arguement.



WYS vanished after receiving this pair of mitts.


Again, this has no bearing on you because 'you were inactive'. What a load of bull.

this one?

using your argument:
"Again, wys getting his second A: hands has no bearing on you because 'you were a leader at the time'. what a load of bull."

you were in charge of recruiting. so i guess you didn't have a say in anything else? You obviously know, i dont know what goes on in those leader meetings or what not, so don't even come at me like i know it all.

i aint responsible for handing out nobles, don't know why you want to argue that. I already said, "The entire LS knew that nobles were loans until you have worked for them." Everyone in the LS knew that, Buster knew that because he was around when other WHMs would jack the nobles and leave.

looking at your argument, you say it has a bearing on me, then it should have an EVEN bigger bearing on you because you HAD a leadership role, albiet recruiting. It still is a leadership position, so if I had any wrongs for being fucking inactive, then you should have way more to blame, no?

So answer my fucking question Dowzer. What the fuck did you try to do in sky to stop/talk some sense into watch to give the A: Hands to someone else? NOTHING. who's at fault here? probably not you, definately not me. I wasnt even around for this shit, and you wouldnt have thought that watch would "disappear" for 2 weeks.

so take your "GTFO" and use it on someone else.

 

[Dowzer]

Why do you keep trying to compare Busta's absense to everyone elses... the only reason Busta's absence wasn't excused was because he didn't keep us up to date as to when he was gonna be back, if he was gonna be back or what... it clearly states in our Rule Book which is publicly viewed btw... (yes you can all go read the whole 83 rules).

For someone in private technical school, you fail to notice my selective vocabulary.


VANISHED. Of course I'll compare those two with eachother.

The only difference is WYS' abj is rare/ex, opposed to Busta's 16mil tunic.

 

[Dowzer]

looking at your argument, you say it has a bearing on me, then it should have an EVEN bigger bearing on you because you HAD a leadership role, albiet recruiting. It still is a leadership position, so if I had any wrongs for being fucking inactive, then you should have way more to blame, no?

Hmmm sorry, I meant it has no bearing on this arguement. Not who's in charge of giving him the tunic. Did I ever say you had bearing on what people receive from sky? Hahaha dont' make me laugh, you have no word of decision in BoL and I know that.

 

[decidence]

For someone in private technical school, you fail to notice my selective vocabulary.


VANISHED. Of course I'll compare those two with eachother.

The only difference is WYS' abj is rare/ex, opposed to Busta's 16mil tunic.

But he didn't vanish, he made it well known that he was living on his own now and was going back to school full time as well as taking a part-time job on the side. He has made it known several times and has made efforts to contribute when he can.

 

[Dowzer]

But he didn't vanish, he made it well known that he was living on his own now and was going back to school full time as well as taking a part-time job on the side. He has made it known several times and has made efforts to contribute when he can.

He did vanish, unless he was only talking with you and other select leaders. I didn't hear from him.

 

[Moch]

Moch, you are an idiot.

At the point when Busta willingly gave the tunic back under the premise that he would then be able to come back and play with you guys and earn it back, all rights to flaming him for anything even remotely close to selfishness went out the window. This is literally the trump card to your pitiful attempt at an argument.

Furthermore, this bullshit about the "BIG BOSS," please dude. You only help to perpetuate WYS's delusions of grandeur. Get a motherfucking grip and go outside.

He gave a legit reason which was he was afk with his kid. I go afk all the god damn time, to cook dinner, to study, to watch things. Just random shit.

Do you have any idea how easy it is to just completely lose track of tells and never see them? I'll tell you this much: It's extremely easy.

For the screenshots he's shown, there were NUMEROUS BoL members spamming him with tells. His screen was literally filled with them from all different people. It's not hard to have tells wiped off the log especially with you people flipping out and tell spamming the shit out of him.

I'm almost positive I've missed a good 30 - 40% of the tells sent to me in FFXI because I've been afk for a lot of time while I chill in Jeuno, because that's what most people do in Jeuno.

Like I said in my first post about this, WYS mostlikely sent him tells while he was away, his own fucking LS members wiped Busta's screen of them by acting like little children and spamming him, then Busta finally responds to him when he gets a chance between all the mess that's being thrown at him, and he gets lied to and treated like ass. And again, in my original post, I stated he mostlikely had to make up some bullshit excuse to himself like "omg busta is ignoring me this is bullshit" and made himself even more angry than he previously was. This isn't just a guess, I feel pretty positive about this from the way you guys post with no solid ground, just petty arguments and the same tired bullshit.

a good argument there.

Dude he can target me all he wants. I'll throw that "I think I know everything while licking my LS leader's ballsack" attitude right back in his face.

Oh god you're so fucking witty. Get a real argument or shut the fuck up.

No, you just straight up do not have a solid argument. Dowzer has you by the balls, and you just lost it against me.

There are screenshots from Busta and facts, both of which are evidence. All you have is is some lube while you ride WYS's cock and get smoked by everybody here on the flameboard because your arguments hold absolutely no ground besides "I'm here to try and help WYS out."

Don't come to me with that bullshit "kekekekekeke I'm the witty one dance for me puppet" attitude. You're the one making an ass out of yourself with almost every single post and then trying to save your shit by trying to act witty. Get that shit out of here and learn to argue.

What a sad, sad cop out.

Must suck to get verbally assraped and only have the wit of a teenage kid to respond with. I'd be angry too.

For the past few pages, you try to make a biased argument based entirely on opinion and have it all refuted. You then tell me to go suck a cock as an entire post. That's not part of your post, it literally is your entire response to me.

On top of this, you have spent multiple posts now trying desperately to call me immature and how mature you are. Chances are if you have to sit here and say it over and over again to yourself and everybody else, you're not so sure about that, and I know I speak for everybody when I say they don't give a shit. You can sit here and post 500x over how I'm immature and you're mature, all it does is the exact opposite of what you're attempting to portray.

It's the same as these kids that talk to you "Well I'm not like other kids, I'm not immature" then they go and make an ass out of themselves immediately after. You're no different, sadly, and you're too self righteous to realize this.

so.. what did you say? i'm inmmature?

GG asshole. You came firing at me with immature responses, then give me the i'm mature and ur immature, then tried to flip it around saying i started the mature vs immature crap... your full of shit Mithe.

 

[Moch]

Hmmm sorry, I meant it has no bearing on this arguement. Not who's in charge of giving him the tunic. Did I ever say you had bearing on what people receive from sky? Hahaha dont' make me laugh, you have no word of decision in BoL and I know that.

why would that make you laugh. I never said i had any decision making powers within BoL. dick man pass me the bong. ever since u left bol u've been hoggin up all the shit !!

<3 dowzer

 

[decidence]

He did vanish, unless he was only talking with you and other select leaders. I didn't hear from him.

August 26th snippet from post in leader forum...

"1st and foremost (again) I sincerely apologize for the recent absence.. but I already know i'm gonna be fully active again in FFXI once I get my RL schedule organized..."

He made is clear to the leaders in posts and in meetings often, but if you didn't see it, then w/e.

 

[Dowzer]

I had already left the linkshell after Scwall was dicked out of lotting rights for N.Body. GG changing the point system on your most dedicated player.

 

[Dowzer]

You see how much control "a leader" has now..........right Moch? Scwall had 200+ hours and with the way they changed the point system he wasn't allowed to lot. (The month during the change> Those were turned into Point-A. The months before that were, Point-B. Decidence decided to take an average of the two? Thus shrinkng Scwalls 200+ hours into not even being able to cast lots on what he wanted.

 

[Elemmire]

lol wtf.

Where did I say he used LS bank to buy them? Yes he used his own gil.


Where are you reading this from? lol


Arguement = WYS got the abj for a SECOND time. He then LEFT for a few weeks.

I see ;P that's information I coulda used Dowzer XD cause I have no idea what you meant.

 

[Moch]

I see ;P that's information I coulda used Dowzer XD cause I have no idea what you meant.

/comfort Elemmire

 

[Dirzain]

Gah, I suck with the new board setup http://www.qcdn.org/showthread.php?p=306907#post306907

XD I'm sorry, man. I was going to /tell you in game that I was sorry but didn't see you online. I hope you accept my apology for being a dickhead... @.@

 

[Grasinthor]

It's funny... reading all 39 pages and realizing deci is still a dumbass isn't too surprising... I just had to post...

Why do you keep trying to compare Busta's absense to everyone elses... the only reason Busta's absence wasn't excused was because he didn't keep us up to date as to when he was gonna be back, if he was gonna be back or what... it clearly states in our Rule Book which is publicly viewed btw... (yes you can all go read the whole 83 rules).

Is this before or after you did you routine editing of your forums prior to posting here? Also as I recall, busta did post every now and then regarding the birth etc. You knew about the baby and he was gonna be away for a while. What else type of update would you want from him? "I'm feeding my baby at 2:30am.... I'm not sure when he is gonna cry but I'll let you know when it happens.." Babies are not on a stable schedule and are not a 9-5 job... they need attention mostly 24/7. He didn't know when he could be back to a stable active status so how could he tell you? Now he's telling you he would be... Isn't that notice enough?

Also nice comment in the earlier post regarding your thoughts on taking care of a baby in regards to FFXI... I think that was truly the most idiotic thing you have said to date. But it does give us hope that you wont reproduce at least.

I don't have anything against WTS although I may not agree on how things were handled, as many people don't on here as we have seen, but it's good to know you're back to acting like you were ok with WTS time off. Not to get off topic but you weren't so ok with WTS being away due to rl issues back then or anyone for that matter. Yet you want people to be understanding on your school schedule as your excuse to rl issues. Purely lame deci. Stop being a hiprocrite.

As for Dowzer, I'll have to agree with you... point system was not handled appropriately especially with it's constant changes. Specific people on the inside who will remain unnamed...(Decidence) knew when changes like this was about to happen and used this "insider information" while people like Scwall got dicked over without any advance notice and loss of time and effort. Go go morale...

Busta was a nice guy from what I remember so I'm glad at least that was resolved to his satisfaction I hope.

(You're almost there Mokk.. hang in there )

 

[Bigboy]

Why do people keep writing WTS? I mean, it's occured too much to just be a typo.

 

[Sandria]

Question about something said on the first page? I havent read anything else on the thread



Quote from a recruiting thread



So, I'm confused. I think asking to be active when you have a new baby is a pretty demanding, dontcha think?

Tyrath: I think that was on my recruitment thread actually. And yes, at the time it did seem like the ideal choice for me at the time. Honestly I think Decidence misunderstood my lack of having all of my dynamis end-game equipment as something along the lines of I needed a dynamis shell. I didn't mean to make that impression although did clarify even on my application. Even babu couldn't get me to change my dynamis shell, so alas BoL shouldn't take offense to it either. ^.^ I have fun there. No ammount of promised gear can ever come to change that. I think that is what players (whether they're leaders or regular members) manage to forget. If you're not having fun you're not going to show up regardless of the item. Shells need WHMs so the price of the nobles will continue to be raised regardless. Cloth is becoming the next a.legs or whatever those commen melee abjs are. So much people break that 10mil cloth just to try for the HQ now. lol.

Even BoL mentions that 'we wanted to quickly put our whms in nobles so that we could start selling them'... not an exact quote but you get the idea. The argument that "Person A" had to wait X amount of time to get theres is about the same as the arguement "I had a full alliance+ of people when I did G2... We had to run hours through the snow fighting off aggros just to be able to kill (insert monster name)." Now it's more along the lines of a person needing it and grabbing a couple of 75s who either solo or duo it. And generally if they don't already have oils/prisms in their possession I cast sneak/invis on them. Fact is, it's a lot easier to aquire them. I didn't have mine until I was well into lvl 75... now it's blasphemy to see a WHM without one even at level 68. And if they don't have a nobles they sure as hell better have a vermy. GTFO.. I didn't have either. The nobility in Noble's Tunic is long since gone and has in turned been made into a nice noble collar.

The arguement of if you're not going to be using it you should loan it to someone that can is understandable. The question is.. how many of you can trust 15 million gil with another person? How many of you can trust even a million with another person? Let alone a stranger. How many strings do you need to make a puppet dance? How many of you can help a person without expecting anything in return? What's in it for me...... can't we just go have coffee?

"You used us for this, but we didn't get to use you long enough.."- The new motto for end-game?

Green Day - Boulevard of Broken Dreams

 

[Hronorigger]

"I had a full alliance+ of people when I did G2... We had to run hours through the snow fighting off aggros just to be able to kill (insert monster name)."

man those were the DAYS I love the part where we kill the mob and there is always ONE PERSON who didn't get hte key item and had to do it all over again and then wipe lmfao.

 

[Sandria]

And on a side note, so as to be more politically correct.. I don't have a problem with BoL or its members. I just don't like some of the mentality or the need to have 83 rules to enjoy the end-game experience. Especially if in the fine print the rules are all subject to change. And in all honesty, I am still looking for a more laid back end-game linkshell that is interested in having fun. I like long walks on the beach.. with kirin and genbu too... (bad pun.)

 

[decidence]

haha he speaks and just shows how little Grasinthor knows as usual. Insider Information... Scwall knew about the point change and cashed out his gil early because Dowzer (his roommate) AGREED to the point system change because we all thought as leaders that it would shrink the amount of points in the system and stop people from hoarding them and in the off chance a bunch of people cashed out at the same time it would result in the LS to be in the red so to speak. The only person marginally against the plan if I recall was Calbrone because it would make his points worth only half as much as they were previously and as a BLM he only used them for gil.

I'm glad we got rid of the point system in the end, all it did was cause greed and hoarding of points where people would not use them to better their gear and the LS as a whole because they wanted gil to support their crafts or secondary jobs, something which I did not do, as I remember I used all the points I could on gear and cashed out the rest three weeks before the change as well.

Let's see... in the 7-8 months we have been a sky LS I have gotten the following...

Osode (only a crazy person sells this)
Sune-Ate
Kote
Haidate
Crimson Finger-Gauntlets (bid three times as many points as they were worth)
Dusk Gloves (6.5mil gift from the LS wish list)
5,000,000gil cashout

So total of 11.5mil worth of stuff in 7-8 months, I hardly see how any insider information has benefitted me at all, as every member or leader that has been in the LS since the beginning has made more then this in gifts/cashouts. Actually many members that have only been in the LS half as long have made more then me.

Grasinthor you need to face the facts and realize, although I piss you off and Im an asshole, I don't give myself special treatment, and it's an INSULT to the other leaders that you would assume they would let me get away with giving myself special treatment.