Ariesol and Hellstorm from Serene Eternity

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I swear to god, next person who uses that goddamn auto complaint generator is getting stabbed in the throat.

I hope Andreva gives this letter five minutes of her precious cappuccino-sipping, cancer-stick-puffing time. The rest of this letter is focused exclusively on Andreva, not because I harbor any ill-will towards her but because she holds onto power like the eunuch mandarins of the Forbidden City -- sterile obstacles to progress who treat traditional values as if they were ornery crimes. She would have us believe that arriving at a true state of comprehension is too difficult and/or time-consuming. That, of course, is nonsense, total nonsense. But Andreva is surrounded by unprincipled fomenters of revolution who parrot the same nonsense, which is why you don't have to say anything specifically about her for her to start attacking you. All you have to do is dare to imply that we should focus on the major economic, social, and political forces that provide the setting for the expression of a vicious agenda. If I am doomed to roll over and play dead, then she will obviously retard the free and natural economic development of various countries' indigenous population in the near future. Although theoretical differences can be drawn between Andreva's prissy, noisome fibs and sullen emotionalism, these are distinctions without a difference. As someone who is working hard to shed the light of truth on the evil that is Andreva, I must point out that we need to look beyond the most immediate and visible problems with Andreva. We need to look at what is behind these problems and understand that Andreva's encomiasts are unified under a common goal. That goal is to let patronizing theologasters run rampant through the streets. While she insists that obscurity, evasiveness, incomprehensibility, indirectness, and ambiguity are marks of depth and brilliance, reality dictates otherwise. Actually, if you want a real dose of reality, look at how if you are not smart enough to realize this, then you become the victim of your own ignorance.

Needless to say, I can't follow Andreva's pretzel logic. I do, however, know that many people are incredulous when I tell them that she intends to propound ideas that are widely perceived as representing outright prætorianism. "How could Andreva be so licentious?", they ask me. "It doesn't seem possible." Well, it is unmistakably possible, and now I'll explain exactly how Andreva plans to do it. But first, you need to realize that she has been trying hard to protect what has become a lucrative racket for her. Unfortunately, that lucrative racket has a hard-to-overlook consequence: it will transform our society into a prudish war machine sooner than you think. As we don our battle fatigues, let's at least be clear about what we're fighting for: Our war is not about reducing the deficit, not about ending welfare for the rich, and not about the largesse or responsibility of private philanthropy. All we want is for Andreva's bootlickers not to force men to live by restrictive standards not applicable to women. It has been proven time and time again that Andreva's janissaries have learned their scripts well and the rhetoric comes gushing forth with little provocation.

If Andreva truly believes that people don't mind having their communities turned into war zones, then maybe she should enroll in Introduction to Reality 101. She claims to be fighting for equality. What Andreva's really fighting for, however, is equality in degradation, by which I mean that we mustn't let Andreva utilize legal, above-ground organizing in combination with illegal, underground tactics to reap a harvest of death. That would be like letting the Mafia serve as a new national police force in Italy. Her associates' thinking is fenced in by many constraints. Their minds are not free because they dare not be. Instead of friends, Andreva has victims and legates who end up as victims. I myself indeed feel sorry for the lot of them. I also feel that Andreva's like the man behind the curtain in the Wizard of Oz. Pull back the curtain of absenteeism and you'll see a demented rube hiding behind it, furiously pulling the levers of mercantalism in a mumpish attempt to shackle us with the chains of Dadaism. That sort of discovery should make any sane person realize that Andreva attributes the most distorted, bizarre, and ludicrous "meanings" to ordinary personality charcteristics. For example, if you're shy, she calls you "fearful and withdrawn". If, instead, you're the outgoing and active type, Andreva says you're "acting out due to trauma". Why does she say such things? Well, once you begin to see the light, you'll realize that I want to see all of us working together to put to rest the animosities that have kept various groups of people from enjoying anything other than superficial unity. Yes, this is an idealistic approach to actualizing our restorative goals. Nevertheless, you should realize that Andreva's inaniloquent, mad game of chess -- the cranky chess of revisionism -- has continued for far too long. It's time to checkmate this pouty, crass opportunist and show her that she wants to destabilize the already volatile social fabric that she purportedly aims to save. Faugh. Andreva tries to make her claims more palatable by wrapping them in rhetoric about the need to protect the interests of the disadvantaged and the downtrodden. And that's why I say to you: Have courage. Be honest. And take the initiative to stop this insanity. That's the patriotic thing to do, and that's the right thing to do.
 
Not reading all those long pages.

So forgive me if someone brought this up already.

I'm aware The Flock is a BST/pet oriented shell.

You not have a NIN, PLD, or someone to voke for pet-swap to maintain claim and reverse tank until pet hate is re-established to avoid this?

I'm still new and don't have sky access to know how it works up there, but would this be a viable solution to prevent this from happening again yes?

Pretty scummy thing to do if a majority of the members of SE wanted to return the mob, but hey telling your members to STFU is a surefire way to keep that morale up and that roster capped.

My best to The Flock and those of SE who took a stand.

- Lec


Yeah it wasnt because of pet swapping. I think it's thought that it was because of hate switching between bst/pet or pet/pet or something to that affect? (Similar to how Kirin can come unclaimed when he summons, someone mention). Anyway regarding pld and nins in the LS. There are some, but if you have a nin or pld on the mob, then you need a whm... and if you have a whm, then you need a refresher... and if you have all that, might as well throw some blms... i.e. it defeats the purpose of the shell in a sense. The point Honcho was making when he posted this was to let the rest of the server (the part that QCDNs anyway) know about the douchebags. It was low that they attempted to steal from a legit shell is the problem. Had they voked it for fear of rmt doing the same and then given the stone to TheFlock, then it would have been cool.

As far as I know, it's always been a rule of thumb that if a bst or smn are fighting a mob (and even when pet switching is involved) you're a jerk if you try to take the mob if it goes yellow because of this process. And no, claiming that the person was gonna die if you intervene doesnt count (And no im not accusing you of saying that Lecreuset :OP)
 
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Whos next?
 
>.> awesome now someone is going to post a Jelly picture or something >.>
 
This kind of thing happened to my shell, Valiance, against Reserrection (Summoners). i walked passed him in sky, he says, Summoner>> what are you doing up here?
Summoner: goin to get Zip, short on members though,
Then he tells me if we need help, let him know, (him and i were on ok terms before this.)
Well Zip pops, we get it , start to die because we had lack of members, then i told him to come help, he came, ended up taking it for himself, No one trust Summoners, he's a liar, that is all.
 
Q: Hey Dad what color is the sky?
A: Son your mom was sleeping with the delivery truck guy thats how you were born.[/QUOTE]

LMFAO
 
First off, you can't confuse the stealing of mobs (or items) from RMT with the stealing of mobs (or items) from legit shells. The first is not only generally accepted but frequently downright encouraged, whilst the latter is frowned upon no matter who does it.

Of course the contexts are different, but why should I bother to distinguish that if the the general populace is going to ignore the individuals and the context and just blindly go after Linkshells?

:frownyface:

Secondly, you might notice that we lack what could be considered a fair judge, impartial and appointed by law. What we're left with is, in the truest sense, a Jury of your peers. Most of your peers, in fact. Not all of them read the flameboard (thankfully) but enough that you can filter through the general opinion of the vocal majority.

In this instance, the opinion of the majority is that stealing from a legit linkshell is wrong.

You can say "well, they didn't break any laws", which is true only because there ARE no laws. There are the rules set by SquareEnix, which are rather vague on the topic of stealing, and then there's... this place. Laws, at their heart, are simply a set of rules that the majority of people agreed to either impose or allow to be imposed upon them.

Why do you need the acceptance of the general populace? Most people appoint the general populace, but I don't see how that would discredit any individual opinion. Majority rules because the majority believes it? What a cool-boy catch-22 for the loud minority.

No, what we're left with is a moral vacuum, in which you have decide it is necessary to let the general populace do the determining.
 
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Master Honcho, I am very sorry that The Flock had their despot stolen. I was a semi-active member of Serene Eternity but dropped my pearl the moment I found out the truth about what happened. I know 7 other people who have done the same, some of whom don't use qcdn. Others are waiting to see if the leadership decides to step up and do what is right, and that is their choice, but the theft itself was enough to decide me.

Serene Eternity gained a gem. The linkshell and its leadership lost respect, standing in the community and many of its members. They will have few new membership applications because no one wants to be associated with them. I hope that those who stole the claim enjoy the benefits they gained.

/cheers to Klank, Sanoske, and the others who aren't afraid to stand up for what is right.

Now I'm busted, guess I might find a new proxy, but I have to say this place has gotten really boring since I've been banned.
 
This kind of thing happened to my shell, Valiance, against Reserrection (Summoners). i walked passed him in sky, he says, Summoner>> what are you doing up here?
Summoner: goin to get Zip, short on members though,
Then he tells me if we need help, let him know, (him and i were on ok terms before this.)
Well Zip pops, we get it , start to die because we had lack of members, then i told him to come help, he came, ended up taking it for himself, No one trust Summoners, he's a liar, that is all.

Not to derail, but I don't think you really have any place to make judgements about other players when you're the type that is only concerned only with yourself. Ever since the beginning of the game, you've always been a leech. =/

Anyways back on topic, has there been any update to this? Have the leaders from both LS's been able to talk and work something out?

(Btw Aly, I want your graphics! ; ;)
 
Master Honcho, I am very sorry that The Flock had their despot stolen. I was a semi-active member of Serene Eternity but dropped my pearl the moment I found out the truth about what happened. I know 7 other people who have done the same, some of whom don't use qcdn. Others are waiting to see if the leadership decides to step up and do what is right, and that is their choice, but the theft itself was enough to decide me.

Serene Eternity gained a gem. The linkshell and its leadership lost respect, standing in the community and many of its members. They will have few new membership applications because no one wants to be associated with them. I hope that those who stole the claim enjoy the benefits they gained.

/cheers to Klank, Sanoske, and the others who aren't afraid to stand up for what is right.

Now I'm busted, guess I might find a new proxy, but I have to say this place has gotten really boring since I've been banned.

thats nice to hear bro, its unfortunate serene etrnity had such poor leadrrs to begin with.

i hope this LS can get better leaders and be a respectable LS again one day;p
 
Either way that happens, i dont see many of the Upstanding serene eternity members staying in that shell after this event. As sad as that may sound, i dont think many will care if/when the shell tanks. Leaders of that shell cant blame anyone but themselves for that.
 
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