as a drk/thf or drk/war am i doing something wrong?

micah2424

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hello i would like to know if i am doing something wrong?

the reason i am asking is i get into a party and the pld says hey shizia u need to stop hitting so hard unless you want to die.

and i was like ok wtf did i do wrong? i do not use souleater unless i need to pull hate off the tank and i use last resort to ws.

i mean the pld was holding hate just fine i am just concerned why i am being told to stop hitting so hard.

also on another note. i am having trouble keeping scythe and great sword capped and i noticed when i reached level 40 it would not skill up as fast is anybody else having this problem?

i would love feed back thank you all
 
Well, micah I suggest you keep doing what you are doing for drk/war. If you were taking hate like the pld was claiming then I say stay drk/war but unlock the battle position and turn around if you get hate to try and shred it. I have no real personal experiences as drk, but I have partied with many very skillful drks and they do as I told you. They are drk/war if they get hate they unlock battle position and turn away from mob and when the pld gains the hate back then turn and beat the shyt out of the mob. As for having a blink tank rather than a vit whore tank, your tactics will have to adjust a bit more. Drks are meant for pure DD, but also you must know when to restrain yourself.

*i mean no disrespect to the PLD job for my comment*
 
well that is just it though man i am not getting hate. so why would he be telling me that?
 
Well, only 2 conclusions that I can come up with: 1. he either knows you from here and is being an ass 2. he is being like all these other dipshits who love to try and tell another person how to play their damn job

Now, I would say it would be option 2 since that person hasnt post on this thread flaming you, but that might just be that he hasnt been on QCDN in awhile. I dont know, but like most humans we have a thing where when we hear flames of a certain person we then tend to set our minds on flaming them as well. Even tho we dont know anything about them from a personal stand point. Now with that said, I read all of the flames towards you and my opinion on it all is that I personally dont know you so I cant judge you. So, I will be glad to help you out with whatever I can as long as it is within my power.

Also, regards to the not personally knowing you I give my respect to you, but like you know it can easily be taken back.
 
i give respect to anybody. i can but i also live by the golden rule if people want to disrespect me then i will treat them how they wish to be treated and that is with disrespect.

and as far as the flames go i am no longer worried because they made an accusation saying that i was trying to sell a peacock charm and scam others and they even said they have proof but hey gues what no proof so i am not worried.

it is like a friend told me the other day and it made alot of sense

i do not know how many people have blacklisted me and i really do not care.

i mean it is just a game!!!
 
yes i find it very usefull. btw do u know any drk's that are having a problem after level 40 with keeping scythe and gs capped?
 
no not at all. but, I heard from some closer drk friends that it is very wise around say lvl 50 or 60 (not exactly sure on which one) to definitely get a skill up party going. I would say get everything +acc that you can for the high eva mobs since from lvl 50-60 I heard for most heavy melees you miss like crazy if your not a +acc whore. Do you have a problem hitting the mobs at your current lvl now? Skill ups only happen if you hit the mob (which you should know that).
 
i am not having a problem hitting the mobs it is just i have had no level up on them for 2 levels now.

currently level 42 dual snipers mutilator scythe and ice brand gs and ever since level 40 i have seen no skill up on ether of em.

i am strongly considering a skill up party today.
 
Well....I have had the same happen with my samurai. I was lvl 45 and I was hitting for 8/10 without snipers and lifebelt, but the point is I never got a skill up for a couple of lvls as well then all of a sudden i hit half way through 47 and I get skill ups like crazy. I assume that the skill ups at the mid - high lvls in a weapon are more rare than often. I remember at the lower lvls I would get at least 3-5 skill lvls in GKT, but since 40 I have gotten like 1-2 maybe 3 if i get lucky. So, all I can tell ya is tough it out and get a skill up party to help out with it. When I was going for Tachi: Jinpu (150 skill lvl) it was a very very long process of 0 skill up for a good 2-3 lvls then bam you get a good 1-2 skill ups the next lvl or 2. I am just saying the gaining of skill ups in a weapon will get completely rare. Patience is the key to gaining anything you desire within a game.
 
If the PLD is saying that then you are doing your job well and the PLD is sucking the cock.
 
As for the keeping GS and Scythe skilled up. As I found out betweeen 40-50 it was impossible to keep both capped in an exp party. actually I had trouble even keeping one capped. But once i got to 50 it seemd skill ups came a lot easier. So what i ended up doing is using just a scythe and i am now trying to get into coffer run parties to get my GS skill ups.
 
I would def use Warrior SJ until 60. Berserk is fun, and DOuble Attack is even funner :wink: As for weapon choice, I used scythe, but i wish i used great sword because it is much better in skill chains. As much as i love Guillotine, it sucks when it comes to skill chains.

Peopole tell me i hit to hard too, I take it as a compliment :lol: just dont be silly and get too much aggro at the beginning of fights and it will all work out. :D
 
micah2424 said:
the reason i am asking is i get into a party and the pld says hey shizia u need to stop hitting so hard unless you want to die.

Shoulda told him, "Ok, I'll try to hit softer from now on ^^", would you like me to give the mob a massage and get him a peanut butter sandwhich while i'm at it? :lol:
 
Hey Micah. Playing as Drk/War so far, I can maybe offer some insight atleast from my own experiences.

Since Darkenatrocity answer most of your questions pretty much already. The only thing I can really focus on is my experience with keeping my weapon skills capped.

I didn't have to worry about leveling greatsword much as a Drk because when I went through playing Warrior (first job) I used great sword as my weapon and capped it at lvl 40 on Warrior which was like 120something I think. This allowed me to simply focus on Scythe as an early Dark Knight and pretty much didnt have to worry about my Great Sword skill up untill the last 30's. Once Great Sword was no longer capped continued to skill up and cap Scythe every level, once scythe was capped I switched to greatsword for the remainder of the level (which usually wasn't much longer).

I focused mainly on making sure to always cap my scythe, because scythe's are the most damaging weapons in the game (having the highest dmg rating). There were a few levels in the late 40's that it became hard to keep scythe skilled, but that was mostly because I was making my own really great parties and zooming through exp, not nessicarily skilling up my scythe as much. Though in the in the early 50's scythe got back to being capped, and by this point it was far ahead of greatsword by like 40 points. At this point, it was nearly impossible to try and skill up greatsword in a party because of the frequent misses.

At about lvl 54 or 55 I went out to altepa, the zone that connects east and west altepa dessert, and I dont remember which side exactly it was, but I skilled up on the beetles. It was slow going, pulled with abs-vit I think (this was some time ago), might have been abs-mnd then abs-vit, and just fought near the zone line. Even at that level those beetles are EP to EM, good enough for skilling up, but you can be killed if your not careful. to prolong the fights a tiny bit gotta make sure to aspir/drain, but if your hp gets to yellow that's when its time to stun and zone. Doing this i raised my skill about 10 levels in a few days but then it seemed to slow down quite a noticable bit. So I asked a 60+ whm friend to come and help me skillup one night. When he came, we fought some DC-T Anticans that raised my skill up more, but still didnt cap it, I ended up being about 7 points away from the cap though which wasnt bad at all.

From then I was able to use my greatsword in parties (after i had already capped my scythe) and at lvl 56 I finally managed to cap Great Sword skill as well as my Scythe. Now with the TNL I have and the accuracy gear I have, I dont think it's really going to be a problem at all keeping both capped from now on. I'm able to have scythe capped by about 5k-7k exp into a level, and at 20k tnl, that 13kish exp left is more than enough to get Great Sword capped and switch back to Scythe before the level is up. Just make sure your able to find a good switch in the skillchains. There usually is a Great Sword WS that can replace the Scythe WS you were using and still maintain the same skillchain. It all depends on the skillchain though. Sometimes you may have to workout one ahead of time. And let the party know the new one, if the order of the WS's they need to use is different.

I hope that helps somewhat.
 
excellent post Ecks. speaking from me i used GS only for quiet awhile till my af scythe even used Gax for a bit. usually when i ran into opposition i just claimly explained to them that i use GS and i would have a SC worked out before hand. most of the time i just made my own pts so it wasnt much of an issue. just do yourself a favor dont listen to ppl who havnt taken drk really anywere everyone has there ideas or opinions on how a job should play but they have no real clue just an idea. Quick story i was helping a friend help somone in his LS do whm af3 *i think i have done it like a thousand times* well anyhoo me and the main tank PLD ran into some static. I wanted to be in his pt so he could cover me because with my exp. in this fight i have out dmgd rngs and high lvl sams, he swore up and down that i was being stupid and i had no idea what i was talking about and even got offened at the idea of me pulling hate from him even made the remark see this is why i dont invite drks. now to his defense i have ptd with him before on other afs and the like and he is an excellent pld. well my bud happened to be a blm with whm sub so i told him to make sure i am healed and he did me the favor of settin a mac for me. well into the fight everyone started to unload on the NM i was seeing 600 - 800 + dmg from everyone else then the other dark did Souleater + last resort + sneak Guillotine he did about 700 dmg told him that was nice and then i did mine i hit that bastard for 1300+ dmg and got hate form the pld... i watch with alittle statisfaction as the pld did everything in his power to get hate back. finally i ran behind him and he was able to get it back and i didnt die this time thank god XD. anyways the pld was impressed and has since said that he would invite me to his pts. moral of the story just keep doing what you are doing and prove everyone else wrong.
 
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Thank's for the complement. ^^
 
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