Aumars Apology.....to Quetz....

[Negorissimo]

To the new person that is playing Aumar:

I forgive you as a member of the Quetzalcoatl Server. Althoug you never did anything to me and I surely don't remember you.

Now, start doing good things and make a new name for yourself. It's never too late. ^^

 

[Angof]

Zeoaesir,
You preech Aumar knows nothing and that he bought the account. You call him out for doing multiple sins in the FFXI community. Now the fact that someone is running around in game, not fully aware of what they should and shouldn't do at aumars level is a problem. BUT it is a problem that the origanal Aumar created. For all the good you are saying about Aumar, did he not choose to sell his account? And doing so did he not know what most likely happen. Instead of degrading the current Aumar further for something that is probally half his fault and half your former friends(assuming he bought the account) perhaps you should take a change of pace and try to help him. He may have lied, and he may have done many inappropriate things, but that does not mean he can not be changed. Maybe if someone else on this forum gave two damns about another person they would have helped Aumar out instead of flaming him and calling him a noob immediately. Honestly, if you know hes a noob, before you go flaming him you should at least try to help. And do not say its impossible, because I have talked to Aumar and have aggreed to answer any questions he has in game to try to help him work back up out of the hole he has dug himself.

Oh and the comment on flaming him goes to everyone who has flamed him. he is not that hard to talk to and quite honestly he has been more honest with me then other people here, probally because I actually took two seconds to talk and not jump at his throat.

Also, I am not saying he will change for sure. But I am willing to try to help him. Though I am still mildly sore at him for leaving a pt my friend was in after a wipe that he caused -.- but I am going to keep trying until he does something that shows he blatently can not be taught to be a better person.

 

[aumar]

Zeoaesir,
You preech Aumar knows nothing and that he bought the account. You call him out for doing multiple sins in the FFXI community. Now the fact that someone is running around in game, not fully aware of what they should and shouldn't do at aumars level is a problem. BUT it is a problem that the origanal Aumar created. For all the good you are saying about Aumar, did he not choose to sell his account? And doing so did he not know what most likely happen. Instead of degrading the current Aumar further for something that is probally half his fault and half your former friends(assuming he bought the account) perhaps you should take a change of pace and try to help him. He may have lied, and he may have done many inappropriate things, but that does not mean he can not be changed. Maybe if someone else on this forum gave two damns about another person they would have helped Aumar out instead of flaming him and calling him a noob immediately. Honestly, if you know hes a noob, before you go flaming him you should at least try to help. And do not say its impossible, because I have talked to Aumar and have aggreed to answer any questions he has in game to try to help him work back up out of the hole he has dug himself.

Oh and the comment on flaming him goes to everyone who has flamed him. he is not that hard to talk to and quite honestly he has been more honest with me then other people here, probally because I actually took two seconds to talk and not jump at his throat.

Also, I am not saying he will change for sure. But I am willing to try to help him. Though I am still mildly sore at him for leaving a pt my friend was in after a wipe that he caused -.- but I am going to keep trying until he does something that shows he blatently can not be taught to be a better person.

/cheer tsulla

 

[Slicetaru]

Zeoaesir,
You preech Aumar knows nothing and that he bought the account. You call him out for doing multiple sins in the FFXI community. Now the fact that someone is running around in game, not fully aware of what they should and shouldn't do at aumars level is a problem. BUT it is a problem that the origanal Aumar created. For all the good you are saying about Aumar, did he not choose to sell his account? And doing so did he not know what most likely happen. Instead of degrading the current Aumar further for something that is probally half his fault and half your former friends(assuming he bought the account) perhaps you should take a change of pace and try to help him. He may have lied, and he may have done many inappropriate things, but that does not mean he can not be changed. Maybe if someone else on this forum gave two damns about another person they would have helped Aumar out instead of flaming him and calling him a noob immediately. Honestly, if you know hes a noob, before you go flaming him you should at least try to help. And do not say its impossible, because I have talked to Aumar and have aggreed to answer any questions he has in game to try to help him work back up out of the hole he has dug himself.

Oh and the comment on flaming him goes to everyone who has flamed him. he is not that hard to talk to and quite honestly he has been more honest with me then other people here, probally because I actually took two seconds to talk and not jump at his throat.

Also, I am not saying he will change for sure. But I am willing to try to help him. Though I am still mildly sore at him for leaving a pt my friend was in after a wipe that he caused -.- but I am going to keep trying until he does something that shows he blatently can not be taught to be a better person.

Two months from now tsulla gets scamed...

 

[Zeoaesir]

Zeoaesir,
You preech Aumar knows nothing and that he bought the account. You call him out for doing multiple sins in the FFXI community. Now the fact that someone is running around in game, not fully aware of what they should and shouldn't do at aumars level is a problem. BUT it is a problem that the origanal Aumar created. For all the good you are saying about Aumar, did he not choose to sell his account? And doing so did he not know what most likely happen. Instead of degrading the current Aumar further for something that is probally half his fault and half your former friends(assuming he bought the account) perhaps you should take a change of pace and try to help him. He may have lied, and he may have done many inappropriate things, but that does not mean he can not be changed. Maybe if someone else on this forum gave two damns about another person they would have helped Aumar out instead of flaming him and calling him a noob immediately. Honestly, if you know hes a noob, before you go flaming him you should at least try to help. And do not say its impossible, because I have talked to Aumar and have aggreed to answer any questions he has in game to try to help him work back up out of the hole he has dug himself.

Oh and the comment on flaming him goes to everyone who has flamed him. he is not that hard to talk to and quite honestly he has been more honest with me then other people here, probally because I actually took two seconds to talk and not jump at his throat.

Also, I am not saying he will change for sure. But I am willing to try to help him. Though I am still mildly sore at him for leaving a pt my friend was in after a wipe that he caused -.- but I am going to keep trying until he does something that shows he blatently can not be taught to be a better person.

So he's taken you in as well?
j/k

I agree that selling the account was wrong. I have given him a chance to come clean about everything and he has chosen not to (his choice) I feel that all is not lost, but he needs to show he can be trusted by walking the walk.

 

[Calv/Godofdeath]

Funny how he admits to lying. Then when he says something, some people will jump all over over t saying forgive the poor fellow. Didn't Colbwa say he was gonna change as well.....

 

[aumar]

Funny how he admits to lying. Then when he says something, some people will jump all over over t saying forgive the poor fellow. Didn't Colbwa say he was gonna change as well.....

but the thing is that i differ from colbwa is that i have already started to change before this post

 

[aumar]

Two months from now tsulla gets scamed...

what u mean tsulla gets scammed?

 

[Kotsu]

but the thing is that i differ from colbwa is that i have already started to change before this post

Just to negate this, as I find this as a stretch.

I don't think the profanity is necessary >.>;; More importantly, when you're trying to improve the way people look at you aumar you have to handle it maturely. Do you need a PL to level any of those jobs? No. Save the money, or donate it to the "Kotsu Hates Farming" fund. That makes everyone happy :B But really, coming in and throwing around bad language in a hateful manner won't change or help your situation. The best you can do is try to show how you've changed the accusations placed against you. Showing proof of change will help clear your name. Behave, be helpful, polite, curtious, and mature in the game and on the boards and then reply back to this with a "I'm sorry you felt that I acted this way, however I've made great strides towards changing the problems you had with me. Let's try to start over." I'll tell you, if you handled the problem that way I'm sure most people would agree to the "Forgive and Forget" policy.

http://www.qcdn.org/showthread.php?t=27046

My post was made at 2:10PM on May 9th. Your original post was made on this thread at 3:08PM on May 9th. In 58 minutes, I doubt you changed that much. It takes longer than an hour to receive respect, friendship, to change how you play, etc. That's why most people will post that time will tell. It'll be months before this is washed over. However, time is flying relatively quickly lately... If you have any questions, just /tell me in game. I'll do what I can to answer them. Regardless, it will take time to make everyone a believer. Fortunately, this is a game that has entranced a lot of people's lives. You have time.

 

[aumar]

Just to negate this, as I find this as a stretch.



http://www.qcdn.org/showthread.php?t=27046

My post was made at 2:10PM on May 9th. Your original post was made on this thread at 3:08PM on May 9th. In 58 minutes, I doubt you changed that much. It takes longer than an hour to receive respect, friendship, to change how you play, etc. That's why most people will post that time will tell. It'll be months before this is washed over. However, time is flying relatively quickly lately... If you have any questions, just /tell me in game. I'll do what I can to answer them. Regardless, it will take time to make everyone a believer. Fortunately, this is a game that has entranced a lot of people's lives. You have time.

i ment i changed before this apology thread was posted , but i still need to improve.

 

[Slicetaru]

Hello I am here to make an apology to the whole entire Quetzalcoatl server!

I apologize for:
Spam shouting
Being a thief
Being a liar
Cussing
Inappropriate behaviors
Scamming
Not paying people if they help me on something
Being a bad taru
Offending all Quetzalcoatians
D2ing people when they come in my party or when I am mad at him/her
And much more...

Quetzalcoatl please accepts my apology for i am really sorry and I promise that I won’t do any of those things again. Please do
not make a flame post out of this post , and please dont flame me anymore.

honestly,
aumar

what u mean tsulla gets scammed?

What i mean is look at all the things that you have done.... i mean you can say that you apologize and shit you know get ppl to like you again like tsulla... you know have them help you out maybe get some free shit, have them help you until your not a noob anymore...and then if they give you shit you will pull the /thief again and then if they ask you about that stuff and say they want it back you will pull the /cussing about it...Saying that they gave it to you...then if ppl ask why you cussed them out you will pull the /lie...just to try to save your self like your doing in this post... Have a nice day h34r: <---thief

what i'm trying to say is once a thief always a thief

 

[Rinoah]

If you would prefer a better example how about Shizia? S/he said they wanted to change and got nothing but insults, despite them being sincere (admittedly its not very often they are sincere). Whats different in this case?

Oh and i will accept your apology if you stop saying "thanks" to everyone on the forum. Frankly its getting annoying, its supposed to represtent a good post not "hey they said something neutral/nice about me!"

 

[Rinoah]

What i mean is look at all the things that you have done.... i mean you can say that you apologize and shit you know get ppl to like you again like tsulla... you know have them help you out maybe get some free shit, have them help you until your not a noob anymore...and then if they give you shit you will pull the /thief again and then if they ask you about that stuff and say they want it back you will pull the /cussing about it...Saying that they gave it to you...then if ppl ask why you cussed them out you will pull the /lie...just to try to save your self like your doing in this post... Have a nice day h34r: <---thief

what i'm trying to say is once a thief always a thief

Damnit you just completey screwed my comment about people not accusing him of not changing...

On a side note i'll also do this bet.

 

[reddogneo]

One I think is cut this guy off of any plvls for now on untill he learns the basic machanics of the game like everyone else learned. I prob does have a 50+ job on that account I most lieky wont even invite him because he doesnt know anything. Aumar start a new character or a new job and play that from lvl 1 without plvls play though the shitty dunes and lvl up and learn jobs role in a pt.

This is not a insult but the only way to learn things right is start another character and start from scratch. IDC if you delete aumar or not but I would advice not play any job beyond lvl 1 any more start fresh. IDK how much money aumar had it seem to be a decent amount at least but use that on good gear rather than plvls. I believe you can become a good player but trust me if you start this game on a lvl 20+ job thats always being plvled your not learning shit about how to function these jobs in a xp pt.

 

[Rinoah]

On a side note, does anyone else agree with my opinion that the main thing noobs lack to learn is humilaty. I mean if they would just accept they are wrong instead of arguing with the level 75 in their job about how it should be done when they are level 12 then they would learn alot and get on with being a good player.

I second kurgons suggestion (seriously now joking aside) that you take up a level 1 job and level it up to at least 37 (you get a subjob out of it at least) That way you will at least know the basic mechanics of the game and people won't laugh at you so much. I am 67 and i still have to ask about some of the more advanced mechanics so at least if you have grasped the basics you look inexperienced and not just a noob.

 

[Passions]

On a side note, does anyone else agree with my opinion that the main thing noobs lack to learn is humilaty. I mean if they would just accept they are wrong instead of arguing with the level 75 in their job about how it should be done when they are level 12 then they would learn alot and get on with being a good player.

Um... No not exactly.

I know some lvl 75 nOObs that completly suck ass at there jobs and the game.

I heard this one the other day

CHR helps with my ninjitsu magic

WHAT? The lowest stat on ninja, and no +chr gear in af and you think it effects ninjitsu?

I know he's not a complete nOOb i know the guy and am friends with him but that comment blew me away lol. There are a ton of people that make silly comments like that, then they end up on alla for other nOObs to read. Also your setting the "cookie-cutter" atmispher with your post. Saying that "i'm 75 i know everything about the job" is just wrong. What about the 75 blm that says AGA's are ok at any given time? or they say "if you got magic your not doing your job" i mean seriously.

Amar how ever its spelled, i dont care about your appology. Frankly i dont give a fuck what anyone thinks on this website, because when it comes down to it i'd say only 30-40% of the server watches it. of that 30-40% they are usually NA and only play during NA prime. Not saying that i will xp with you anytime soon, but I give people a couple chances (at different times) to prove skill when playing with me. you either got it or you dont. If you dont then you dont exist in this game to me, if you do then you'll lvl just as fast as me cause ill keep coming back to you. lvling sub jobs and lvling farther i've helped a lot of newbies get artifact gear, learn there jobs, answer questions, give advice. Thats all nice, and if i see they are improving over the course of time i spend with them, then they get the "lets keep helping them get better" approval from me.

coming on here and asking for forgivness is just well... Its like asking your dad to let you take the ferrari out and then wrecking it, then turning around and yelling at him because he let you drive it. THEN!! 2 days later asking to take it out again????

Seriously trust is earned, you broke it. Gaining trust is one of the hardest things to do, you can ask for forgivness for past events but that doesn't mean people have to trust you (which is what i think your looking for). Just mind your own damn bussiness and play the game and handle yourself like you do in rl. would you walk up to some stranger you just meet cuss them out and stuff them in a truck and send it rolling down the hill? NO! least i hope not, so just wise up a little and move on.

 

[Angof]

I would have to say Passions..that that is probally the best post I have seen so far.

I think with that post, well this one since I am posting after you, we should let the topic die and see if Aumar changes or not. Not much more we can do at this point.

Dead topic after this post or not though, I won't be posting back in this topic again.

Oh and guys...its Tsulaa....with two a's. v.v;

 

[asiamise]

This thread is kind of teetering towards Neighborhood Watch material.
If it keeps going in this direction I will move it there. Not a threat, just a heads up for those that would like to continue the discussion.

 

[Kotsu]

I think there's no reason to move it, because this thread is over. Save your time posting here, and just wait to see how things go with Aumar in the game. Though, if he does something exemplorary in the game, we should post it so a mass populace would know. But that's it.

 

[asiamise]

I think there's no reason to move it, because this thread is over. Save your time posting here, and just wait to see how things go with Aumar in the game. Though, if he does something exemplorary in the game, we should post it so a mass populace would know. But that's it.

Agreed.

If trouble with Aumar continues, please post in Neighborhood Watch.