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Anglis

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Damn!

Btw I'm loving this game (when EA servers aren't screwed). Favorite class so far is Recon. I love to snipe, but I'm starting to play the class more with a shotgun and throw the motion sensors into the areas where you have to blow the objective. Man, I've gotten to the point where I can get well over 1000 pts in a match off of just throwing sensors. It's not all about the kills! Those things are awesome, itl definitely helps the team out.
 
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Ya this game is sooo bad ass! i have about 23 hrs logged, but it's on my bro's psn so im about to start on mine tonight. props to dice/ea. Recon really takes off when you get mortar. this game is one of my favorites. engineer ftw!
 
wish they could let you ban certain kits from matches.

i hate snipers. not enemy snipers [i love them, such easy kills] but my team snipers. you know your going to fail a match when you spawn, take a 45 degree view of when your team is at, and you see blue dots littered on one rock. 3 snipers here, 4 more over there, 1 or 2 sitting waaaay back in the attackers spawn camp because they want to think thier badass and get 1 kill every 5 minutes on some idiot that gets on a unsheilded heavy MG. thats why its called recon and not sniper. your supposed to gather intel and asses the battlefeild for your other squadmates. the biggest offenders are the morons who think thier leet b'cuz they have the m95 and want to use it on fucking nelson bay.....

if im recon, my weapon is either vss for quick sniper&move advancement, or the UAS shotgun with the slug shot and magnum ammo.

all other kits have weapon layouts that can fullfil your wants as a sniper;

assualt: AUG w/ 4x scope and Assualt rifle training perk
medic: M60 with 4x scope and mag ammo (fire one shot at a time, accurate as hell)
engineer: ak74su with EX ammo perk, EXPMK2 perk and the M136AT4 rocket.

btw, rant not aim at you two directly, just havnt been able to write one yet, gamefaqs is flooded with them and it would seem redundant.
 
Should try out the SVU with an ACOG scope on it. I rape every time on Nelson bay with that combo it's great for close combat and long range.
 
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People fall into the trap of thinking Recon is sniper only. Well, I've gotten over 3k with a shotgun. My buddy likes assault, so he runs around with ammo drops so I can constantly refill. I spam motion sensors when he's around and we can literally lock down a mcomm or conquest flag.
 
I'm not a fan of this sniper crap either. When I use the Recon kit it's usually with a shotty or M14 and just for the Mortar and balls. I never even used a sniper rifle to get all the unlocks. That bein' said though, every good, full squad should have one as it makes the game so much easier because of the spotting system. A good Recon man with a spotting scope is invaluable. That aside, I still think the spotting scope is brutally ridiculous. You can literally just sit back and spaz out to target everything not behind some form of viable cover, it's just to easy. Not to mention a good player will see an orange triangle and try and shoot it down even if they are unsure of the actual position. It turns into a mess in my opinion.

My preferred kit is the Assault with either the M16 or AN-94 with 4x scope and Magnum Bullets. If I need to snipe a crate I can do it. If I need to get in close, I can do it. That load out works for everything except takin' out vehicles. On that crappy map where the startin' crates are on an island you can sit in the spawns and mow people down just like a sniper, but you have the added benefit of puttin' 2-3 bullets in them instead of one. I would say aside from flankin' (which isn't always viable) it's the best way to put a sniper in their place. The range for spotting with them is about like a normal sniper rifle as well so I can spot just as well as the Recon players.

As for the game itself I'm not sure I like it enough to say it is better than a CoD this time around. I definitely don't like it better than the first BC, not by a long shot, though it is an improvement over it in looks (goodbye film grain!) and bullet damage. The spotting scope sucks, I don't like the new control layouts for vehicles, and I don't like the fact that the easiest way to get rid of a heli can be dodged by a first timer pilot. I don't like them takin' away the Mortar from the "Medic" and givin' it to the Recon class, bad decision. I also don't like how brutally painful it is when a Medic comes in with his PKM sprayin' the walls down for a multi-kill. In BFBC it took some skill to use the damn LMGs now you can act like friggin' Rambo with them. The last gripe I have is about the Hardcore mode and "Squad" Deathmatch. Hardcore mode is nothin' but this: Spawn Recon, Crouch, Wait... anything else will get you sniped. "Squad" Deathmatch I absolutely love but I hate the spawnin' system. It is SQUAD Deathmatch not Spawn Randomly Deathmatch. I can't count the number of times I'll be workin' a route and have someone spawn right on top of me, it's so damn stupid.

All of the gripes aside, when you're playin' with friends and goofin' off it can be a blast. Like tonight, everyone from my squad was on and we decided to break away from the orthodox method of attackin' in Rush mode. We spawned Medic and Engineerx3 with extra explosives, explosive damage boost, and Anti-tank Mines. We just rushed to the crates, slammed down our mines, tossed a grenade, and ran for our lives (this is where the Medic came in handy as suicides were frequent ). Every round we attacked took at most 15 min and you just know the other team was like, "WTF just happened!?"
 
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this is why AUG > all other ARs.

also, ppl can stop bitching about the UMP stats sucking.
 
Strid, I think it has more "potential" then Bad Company. It's not their yet obviously, but they started in a better direction. I like how people die much faster now. It's a little faster paced, I guess because they shortened the maps a little, which I like, but they are still huge. One thing that does kind of piss me off, is they seem to be pushing vehicle warfare even more in this one. Tanks and Copters spawn at a ridiculous rate. The second I blow down a damn copter, another one is on it's way. Tanks get blown up way too easy in this one. I say, lengthen the respawn on tanks by a lot, but make them a tougher.

Overall, I like this game a little more then Bad Company. It's level up system is much better. Finally, I don't care what anyone says, every class is more useful now. Assault is great now. In BC1, it was useless. Every class now has a strength. Recon getting "mortar strike" makes more sense to me. It's a recon, they're for spotting, therefore it just makes more sense for the class. Medic doesn't need anymore then it has, they already get the most points, and have one of the best, if not the best machine gun in the game. I see your gripes though about Recon. The one thing I would change is this, make the timer use of Mortar Strike much longer. It doesn't need to be spammed. That is horrible.
 
I understand someone being upset when the entire team is sniping and losing the match, however... You are never going to get me to admit i am in the wrong, and what can ya do about it anyways. You would have to actually evaluate each sniper to see who is helping the team or not. When i am sniping and have 50-75 kills in a match regardless of how i got them i have alot to do with our victory. I can tell you i am annoyed with the people who are any class other then recon and complain all day about it. Those are the same people who end up team killing the recon class teamates then say you are not helping the team. Assholes.

I have found a way to enjoy each class in this game a great amount. My class selection changes from cap point to cap point, not so much level to level. If we need something to complain about, complain about the people who take the chopper just to get to the cap point faster and dump it out right into the enemies hands...
 
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I understand someone being upset when the entire team is sniping and losing the match, however... You are never going to get me to admit i am in the wrong, and what can ya do about it anyways. You would have to actually evaluate each sniper to see who is helping the team or not. When i am sniping and have 50-75 kills in a match regardless of how i got them i have alot to do with our victory. I can tell you i am annoyed with the people who are any class other then recon and complain all day about it. Those are the same people who end up team killing the recon class teamates then say you are not helping the team. Assholes.

I have found a way to enjoy each class in this game a great amount. My class selection changes from cap point to cap point, not so much level to level. If we need something to complain about, complain about the people who take the chopper just to get to the cap point faster and dump it out right into the enemies hands...
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You get 50-75 kills in one match? I don't think I see that ever, or not very often. The most I've had so far is 35, and I thought that was freakin awesome.

Right now, I'm almost exclusively leveling up Recon. I like to open up everything for one class, then move on. I do enjoy sitting back and sniping though. It's fun and exhilarating to get 10 headshots in one match, especially if you're locking down node A or B. I love when my squad puts on the detonate timer, and I cover the node from a distance and one-shot whoever tries to disarm it, though most of the time, if I'm playing with a squad, with Recon I go shotgun and provide back up with a few kills (not many), but call mortar strikes on tanks, and spam the hell out of motion sensors.
 
Anglis said:
You get 50-75 kills in one match? I don't think I see that ever, or not very often. The most I've had so far is 35, and I thought that was freakin awesome.
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Maybe once or twice.

Also, forgot about the vehicle spawn rate. It is entirely to fast especially for those of us who feel they shouldn't respawn in the first place. As it is now there is pretty much no penalty for gettin' stupid in a vehicle which is leadin' to people just sittin' dead still in a tank and shootin' crates, buildings, and other tanks. The helicopters are the worst, they respawn almost instantly...
 
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I had my doubts after all the talk about how bad the demo was, but this game is amazing. Playing with my friends in a 4 man squad is one of the most fun things I've done in a video game in a long time. There have been some epic moments where our squad has won the game for our team and its awesome. I enjoy pretty much every class and have been switching them on and off for every map. We have made some sick helicopter assaults on Valparaiso.

I just wish there wasn't so many problems with the servers!
 
I agree hard with the vehicle respawn issue man.. Its like i blow up a tank and pop there is another. I have only had 5 matches with over 50 kills and there was a 75 kill match. What i ment with that is even then the people are saying all i do is snipe and not help the team...
 
Damn you guys are much better then me then lol. I get a decent amount of experience, but it's usually from support it seems. Then again, lately I haven't been playing with a squad which I need to do. It's alot easier to get pts that way. I'd be willing to team up with you guys (strid, osy, and anybody else)
 
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I agree hard with the vehicle respawn issue man.. Its like i blow up a tank and pop there is another. I have only had 5 matches with over 50 kills and there was a 75 kill match. What i ment with that is even then the people are saying all i do is snipe and not help the team...
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See man, some people do the job right, which I'm sure you're one of, but most people just suck at it and it gets frustrating on both sides. I love a good recon man doin' the proper job and gettin' his fair share of kills, nothin' beats it. However, playin' with randoms it sucks. I'd even venture to say, from playin' with randoms, most of them don't even know how to mark people. When I only have time for a quick game or two I play by myself and if I don't spot it seems nobody is, but I don't loadout with a sniper because I like to patrol. When I'm playin' with my team though the other team lights up like crazy from our Recon man and everyone else on our team supports as well, it's friggin' awesome. I don't even care if a Recon has a 0/10 ratio so long as he's spotting like a mad man. I consider spotting the easiest thing ANYONE, especially Recon, can do but it's not doing those simple, simple things that make people full of fail.

Anglis, I have a hard, hard time playin' shooters. Not skill wise, but I'm too damn competitive for my own good. I friggin' rage by myself, quite often, so when I'm playin' I'm usually always with a group that can pull a shit ton of weight. I don't play this game much at all unless I have a full squad, at least, but if I ever see you on and we have a slot to fill (either in squad or just an open player slot on the team) I'll let you know for sure. If you ever catch me on playin' solo it's gonna be me bein' that douche bag Recon guy tryin' to Mortar his way to the Destruction achievement.

Tonight was the first night my entire runnin' crew was online with the game. We had 8 of the 12 slots filled and goddamn, I may hate this game for the most part, but that was some good stuff. It was probably as close to being on a real battlefield as you could get without enlisting for service as everyone is pretty hardcore about playin' properly. We played for about 5 hours and never lost a match. On defense the other teams never pushed us past the first set of crates and on the attack we kill farmed until about 40 tickets and then would push. I was skeptical at first because most of them wanted to try out Hardcore Rush, but when you have that many people workin' together Hardcore is a lot more fun than normal.
 
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Picking this up today so we'll see how it goes.

I can't completely comment on the whole sniper issue since i haven't played yet but I dont have a problem with someone just sniping if they're getting the kills to back it up. Like in CoD when people get all bitchy because im just sitting back and getting kills and not cappin the point, saying like 'GO PLAY TDM FAGGOT YOURE NOT HELPING AT ALL' and yet they fail to take into account the fact that my pred clears out the obj or when i do get my chopper gunner it helps us get a full cap.
 
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Picking this up today so we'll see how it goes.

I can't completely comment on the whole sniper issue since i haven't played yet but I dont have a problem with someone just sniping if they're getting the kills to back it up. Like in CoD when people get all bitchy because im just sitting back and getting kills and not cappin the point, saying like 'GO PLAY TDM FAGGOT YOURE NOT HELPING AT ALL' and yet they fail to take into account the fact that my pred clears out the obj or when i do get my chopper gunner it helps us get a full cap.
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I can feel that person. As someone who can cap, defend, and get their killstreaks without a sniper rifle and a campfire I'd prefer you to gtfo of a Domination I was playin' too.

However, sniping in CoD and sniping in BFBC are worlds apart. While unnecessary in MW2, they are totally necessary in BFBC, just not in the numbers you'll see them in.
 
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I was talking about HQ Pro where theres only one point and I'll position myself to cover/defend each point as it changes. You have to remember Me killing you = you not capping the point and although I havent played it yet im sure the same holds true in BC2. If you're dead, you cant complete the objective. So if you can get the kills to back it up then I don't see the problem.
 
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See man, some people do the job right, which I'm sure you're one of, but most people just suck at it and it gets frustrating on both sides. I love a good recon man doin' the proper job and gettin' his fair share of kills, nothin' beats it. However, playin' with randoms it sucks. I'd even venture to say, from playin' with randoms, most of them don't even know how to mark people. When I only have time for a quick game or two I play by myself and if I don't spot it seems nobody is, but I don't loadout with a sniper because I like to patrol. When I'm playin' with my team though the other team lights up like crazy from our Recon man and everyone else on our team supports as well, it's friggin' awesome. I don't even care if a Recon has a 0/10 ratio so long as he's spotting like a mad man. I consider spotting the easiest thing ANYONE, especially Recon, can do but it's not doing those simple, simple things that make people full of fail.

Anglis, I have a hard, hard time playin' shooters. Not skill wise, but I'm too damn competitive for my own good. I friggin' rage by myself, quite often, so when I'm playin' I'm usually always with a group that can pull a shit ton of weight. I don't play this game much at all unless I have a full squad, at least, but if I ever see you on and we have a slot to fill (either in squad or just an open player slot on the team) I'll let you know for sure. If you ever catch me on playin' solo it's gonna be me bein' that douche bag Recon guy tryin' to Mortar his way to the Destruction achievement.

Tonight was the first night my entire runnin' crew was online with the game. We had 8 of the 12 slots filled and goddamn, I may hate this game for the most part, but that was some good stuff. It was probably as close to being on a real battlefield as you could get without enlisting for service as everyone is pretty hardcore about playin' properly. We played for about 5 hours and never lost a match. On defense the other teams never pushed us past the first set of crates and on the attack we kill farmed until about 40 tickets and then would push. I was skeptical at first because most of them wanted to try out Hardcore Rush, but when you have that many people workin' together Hardcore is a lot more fun than normal.
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You're just like me solo. I snipe/mortar my way forward. When I'm with a group, I might snipe but only for a second. I usually grab a shotgun and stick close to the assault player, keeping the area spotted for my teammates. I can get pretty mad too. I pull my weight. Sometimes it's will kills, but usually in a squad, I concentrate on spotting enemies for the Assault, Medics, Engineers to take out.

OH, and sniping isn't always a bad thing! Last night, I had a match where I got 29 kills, 2 deaths all from sniping. 24 where headshots!
 
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Played a couple rounds today and it was decent. Some of the kills were kinda of pissing me off but im sure that was due to me just starting and some higher level people having better weapons/perks and such. Also anyone else notice this?:

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lol copy much?
 
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