Bahamut as an Avatar

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Alerith

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Ok, SE has specifically said that Bahamut would not become an Avatar for summoners simply because they would have to tone down his power so much from what it is in CoP. I agree, but dont you think its a good idea to add something like Neo Bahamut or Bahamut Zero like they did in FFVII?

That way, the SMN get their Bahamut, the CoP Bahamut remains a beast and everyone goes home happy.

I mean, he has been a summon in almost every single FF game. To cut that off when the game goes online is just.....not right IMO.
 
Neo-Bahamut and Bahamut Zero were actually even more powerful than Bahamut so that doesn't make much sens at all to me :S

Plus Bahamut is the wyrmking and adding anyone of those will just create confusion.
 
SlizenDize said:
Neo-Bahamut and Bahamut Zero were actually even more powerful than Bahamut so that doesn't make much sens at all to me :S

Plus Bahamut is the wyrmking and adding anyone of those will just create confusion.
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Yea, guess that is true. But as a summoner, dont you feel a bit upset by the fact that you cant summon bahamut? (yet anyways)
 
I'd like to see all avatar gloves, like Ifrit Mitts, Shiva Mitts etc.., before any new avatars. Or maybe some kind of uber mittens that encompass all avatars. Carbuncle is fine and all, but running around with Titan all day, at no mp cost, would be cool.
 
Alerith said:
Yea, guess that is true. But as a summoner, dont you feel a bit upset by the fact that you cant summon bahamut? (yet anyways)
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No, I don't know why everyone is obessed with him either. Yes, I'm a dragon fanatic like many but I hate bahamut, and I have as much a time understanding why people love him as I do trying to understand why people like seph.

(Sephiroth's huge fan base was completly unexpected btw, even the developer team said in an interview that there's no logical story based reason why someone would like him, he's confident meaning no one's going to like him out of pity ect, and he's simply and purely crazy and evil. No secret plot to save his familiy or horrible past. It really surprised them, and still time and time again he's rated the best badguy. Vincent on the other hand...mmmm)

All I ever hear about is bahamut this and that, I'd sugguest getting over it, we got much cooler avatars to want :P How about alexander? I'd love to see Anima, man that would own. Everyone also forgets about Eden... Eden would own bahamut by sneezing.
 
Yea, Anima would own.... I'd love to see Anima in FFXI. I really don't see the craze for Bahamut, either. Yea, he kicks ass, but I'm not gonna loose any sleep over it. I'd rather see some new gear and actual game content (quests, missions, and so forth) vs. new avatars and stuff like that.
 
The only way I see Bahamut viable is a 2hr-only summon or somthing. Being able to giga flare the fuck out of things when astral flow is up is pretty sweet, and I don't think it would break the job at all.
 
Tymon said:
The only way I see Bahamut viable is a 2hr-only summon or somthing. Being able to giga flare the fuck out of things when astral flow is up is pretty sweet, and I don't think it would break the job at all.
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You mean Mega-Flare right? ^^

And as a 2hr...never thought of that. Kinda like Yuna's overdrive where you can summon an Aeon with full overdrive.
 
I have his (so far useless) whisper, so I'd give a thumbs up to Bahamut.
 
Don't believe SE excuses for a second. They nerfed all the Avatars, Fenrir and Diabolos so we could summon them. We accepted it. As an example: Diabolo's Nightmare sleeps an entire PT and takes chunks of hit points from the life bar. OUR Diabolos Nightamare doesn't even come close...

I won't even mention Fenrir, because everyone that has been in that BC comes out with bad dreams for the rest of his life.

They toned down their power there, what about that?

SE's real reason why they can't allow Bahamut to be summoned by every SMN is his size... Yep, they can't have that 50ft monster in: King Ranperre's Tomb, Garlaige Citadel, Kuftal Tunnel, Delkfutt's Tower, Dragon's Aery, etc...

Even less a SMN Cannon PT with all Bahamuts... anywhere.
 
Maybe a suggestion would be that Smn could be able to use bahamuth while using 2 hour only. Use two hour, your able to summon him and it'll just womp the crap outta anything. Mega flare would be the finishing move to do 3000 dmg =P BUT I would only assume to get it is +70 or merits only. To keep it away from lowbe areas.
 
Or they can make a verson of bahamuth called "Bahamuth shadow" It be a smaller, and unforunately weaker verson. We can toss out idea to SE, maybe they will listen. - .-"
 
Personally Id lik eto see our current avatars fixed and maybe more ablities added instead of more to summon. I love dragons myself but I am happy to not see bahhmut as an avatar.

Rather I woul dlike to see SE adjust our blood pacts and make summoning magic useful. we have so many BPs that are crap and yes some very very good BPs too. There is room for ajustment and improvments to be made with our current avatars before they need to add even more.
 
No no no no no no no no no no no!

Subject has been talked to death, and NO, NO BAHAMUT FOR SUMMONERS.

I would like to see more BPs, they could do a round of en~weapon spells, and complete the ~Spikes spells to be honest. Perp- gear,


SMN has enough avatars for now, we just need more perp- gear put in to make avatars practical over longer periods of time, and more powerful BPs pre-70.
 
ForteTeppo said:
Or they can make a verson of bahamuth called "Bahamuth shadow" It be a smaller, and unforunately weaker verson. We can toss out idea to SE, maybe they will listen. - .-"
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smaller Bahamut?

Taruhamut?
Bahataru?
 
I think, if adding in a summon, it should be Anima and Alexander. Hell, Kirin was a Esper/Summon in FFVI. Asura in FFIV. C'mon, they have plenty of pool to bring in. I honestly feel that Anima (Dark Magic, and obviously the emo summon for dark knight converters ^.~) and Alexander (For those happy-go-lucky cry babies known as WHM... oh wait... I'm a white mage ><;;) would be two GREAT additions. Kudos to those who've mentioned them.

Another good addition would be something core-earth like "Gaia" or something. It's an option. But look how many summons there were on FFVI and there are here. They've left it nice and open for increases. However, you can't sacrifice story for "pwnage power." you aint Scrappy doo, it doesn't work that way. Bring in practical summons, but the Dragon king is too vital to the Storyline and also vital to stories down the road.
 
I present this guy as a great addition to the SMN Avatar family: Phoenix

Finally, the SMN can have the much needed Bloodpact Raise II/III or Reraise II/III.
Or the Astral Flow Raisega II/III.

ps. If SE gives it Helldive as a BP i quit this game...
 
gonna have to agree. I have always said Phoenix would be the best choice as a new avatar since we are mainly seen as healers in exp parties give us at least a high level raise II bp thats expesnive to be fair to WHMs and maybe a RR aga bp. Phoenix could be easily balanced and be very useful. aside from that I stillfavor adjusting our current avatars making them more useful.
 
Anima was a ONE-TIME summon from FFX. That makes almost as much sense as asking to get Eden (who has absolutely no place outside FFVIII, including the name) as a summon.

On the other hand, I do think that SMN should get Phoenix or -something- as a 2-hour only summon. Because at level 75, when the only purpose of the 2-hour is for 0 perpetuation cost while using Predator Claws.... something's not right.
 
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