BCNM 30 Petrifying Pair: Death

Elohim

Elohim

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Well, I tried my first BCNM yesterday and failed miserably twice.

I think I misunderstood what Kiting is supposed to be for a Red Mage. Basically, at the start of battle I cast Gravity on the right Lizard and then tried my best to stay out of range while healing my two warriors - Frostmourne and Lejes. Unfortunately Gravity wasn't enough and every time I tried to cast Cure II the damn lizard was on top of me, taking fat chunks of my HP. :wacko:

I think my concept of kiting was warped from WoW, where hunters keep a mob slowed but unbound and just run in front of it, occasionally pausing to hit it with an arrow.

After watching some video following the loss of 60 seals and 600xp, I think I understand what I was doing wrong, and would like some affirmation of the strategy I want to employ when I go back for revenge.

I was under the impression that Bind had diminishing returns when cast on the same mob - i.e. that if it lasts for 20 seconds the first time, it will last 15 or 10 seconds the second time and then basically be worthless after that because the mob will unbind as soon as you finish casting. Is this wrong? I watched some videos and it seems that the idea is to keep the second lizard permanently bound while healing the warriors - Gravity is not meant to be the general debuff but only to give me a few seconds to recast bind when it comes unbound.

So the idea is, at the start of battle Elemental Seal + Bind, Gravity, then heal the warriors until the lizard unbinds, rebind, and go back to healing. Does this sound right?
 
Elohim said:
Gravity is not meant to be the general debuff but only to give me a few seconds to recast bind when it comes unbound.
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This is the strategy you should use.
 
I attempted to kite this as BLM/RDM (very unsuccessfully, as I thought I'd get Gravity...I didn't).

The following are successful strategies I've read about:

A good strat is to either use RDM/NIN and keep Gravity, Blind, and shadows (Utsusemi/Blink) up or...

RDM/BLM and cast Bind, then Gravity, then Bind, then Gravity, and lead the lizard all over the place. I have done this successfully against other lizards, just not in Petrifying Pair.

Good luck to you in this hellish BCNM.
 
I've done this one before, and if I recall correctly, I cast bind first, and then gravity and get some distance. Then I take a quick pause, and either enfeeble the other lizard the others are fighting, heal, or recast my shadows depending on the situation. Then I toss another bind and get some more distance and just repeat using gravity whenever it becomes available.

Sometimes its good to suggest that your other melee bring some hi-potions just in case because then you have less to worry about. Hopefully you have at least one subbing nin though to help with taking dmg.
 
Ok, thanks for the tips. My problem was definitely having no time to do anything but run away, try to cast, and then run some more. I will report back after tonight's attempt :)
 
Dude. You're my taru twin :o

What body size did you pick?


(tarutaru ftmfw)
 
Did this yrs ago as war/nin war/nin whm. My sis (whm) used bind on the gray liz while we killed the brown one. Drops are terible tho if your going for gil.
 
Done this plenty of times before, it's easy. If you lack confidence, then you can go RDM/NIN, but I did it fine as RDM/BLM, just blink is a bit less unreliable.

Bring a yagudo drink, one per BC, that should be enough. Go in, buff up, etc. Open up with Elemental Seal + Bind on the right lizard. Enfeeble the left lizard while the other 2 are fighting it. Then cast gravity on the right lizard. From here on it's just a matter of keeping your allies healed while alternating bind/gravity on your lizard. If both gravity and bind wear off and your recasts are still down, then just run around the BC kiting it. Don't panic if he gets a few swings at you, it happens. The left lizard will be dead in no time. Have the melee bring Hi-Potions if you aren't available to cure them, which can happen.
 
You did it with Frostmourne...

nuff said.

But yes, just keep bind and gravity on while the 2 wars knock the crap out of the lizzy. Its simple, and if grav doesnt stick or bind doesnt, dont get nervous and scared, just be calm and get it cast again.
 
I'm a giant among taru :\

I'm tall in real life, so I gotta be tall ingame, right?
 
Also have the wars bring HP Pots, you should focus on kiting while they are fighting the first one, just makes things easier. Then when they kill the first and start on the second you can cure them.
 
Did this one 3 times today each more successful than the last at killing them.

I went as my war/nin with my friend Dreucent and his wife, rng/nin and rdm/whm .

Basically, she kept binding 1 liz while we fought the other. She'd cast gravity once it got unbound and then bind it again. She also used Yag. drinks every so often. And yes, the drops are shit for gil lol.
 
What is the best job setup for this BCNM? I have the RDM spot taken care of, a war/mnk (me) and then i could have my other friend come as either war/nin, war/thf, or other melee jobs.
 
rdm/nin, rdm/blm, rdm/whm as your kiter.
war/nin, nin/war as your tank/main DD.
rng/nin or war/nin or war/thf as your second DD.
 
I could be war/thf here in a few hours :P

So, Rdm/Blm, War/Nin, and War/Thf would all be good choices?
 
I would believe so, yes. So long as the WAR/THF doesn't get hit ;)
 
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