Benediction

[Thnikkaman]

I know, I've been WHM for over two years now, so sue me. But I got a little question about my two-hour. Since, I've never been stupid enough to use Benediction unless it's a super emergency and half the party's in red HP to save someone, I know it gives a lot of hate. But today got me thinking: so does Curaga. I've always thought Benediction, like Curaga, gives hate according to the HP cured in a grand total. I was in a discussion with a friend earlier today over MSN about the hate Benediction gives. He told me it gives a fixed amount of hate because a WHM used Benediction at the start of the fight when everyone was at full HP and the Paladin couldn't 'Voke off of him. Is this true?

benediction [bénni díksh’n]
(plural benedictions)
n
1. expression of approval: an expression of approval or good wishes
2. prayer asking for God’s blessing: a prayer asking for God’s blessing, usually at the end of a Christian service
3. or Benediction or benedictionCatholic devotional service: in the Roman Catholic Church, a devotional service during which the congregation is blessed with the Host
4. blessedness: the state of being blessed

 

[Bajaratt]

In my experience it's based on the amount healed. At lower levels, Paladins were able to use invincible to pull the monsters off me, but when I used it in a 70 fight Invincible didn't do anything.

 

[Rones]

Its based off the amount of hp cured. You can bene with full hp, and it will give you no hate. Using bene with only tank in red vs entire party in red results in very different amounts of hate. Almost feals like curaga 4 pulls more hate than bene lately, but I haven't test it enough. Haven't pulled hate with bene in ages.

 

[Bluefrost]

Every single time I've used Benediction, I've had a Paladin in the party, and every single time, he was either able to hold it off with Job Abilities or Invincible. Of course, if something happens, you usually have a couple people, if not more, who are able to keep you alive. But that's my experience.

 

[Atrbiohazard]

I think the last time I used Benediction in a party, it didn't pull too much hate. The SAM and PLD provoked and it went back to them.

When I used Benediction the other day in a ZM12 party, I didn't get any hate at all. No one could get the stupid pot silenced and it kept using -aga spells. With PLD at 1/4 health, SAM at 100hp, and WAR at 1/3 health, I was amazed.

 

[Myrrh]

When ever i used Ben i rarely get hate cause there is allways some guy who can hold hate really well. tho when i "Divine seal" + "Curaga III" i get mega hate

 

[Thnikkaman]

When ever i used Ben i rarely get hate cause there is allways some guy who can hold hate really well. tho when i "Divine seal" + "Curaga III" i get mega hate

It all depends how much you cure bro. The only supreme good thing about Benediction is it's instantaneous. By the way, the guy who thought Benediction had fixed hate was Blazn, so... Kinda explains a lot.

 

[Caerloc]

Um.. >.>
Since like lvl 65 i have never seen a mob
even flinch from the use of Benediction. >.>
My experience is that it's a lot less hate then
any higher curaga.

 

[Thnikkaman]

Um.. >.>
Since like lvl 65 i have never seen a mob
even flinch from the use of Benediction. >.>
My experience is that it's a lot less hate then
any higher curaga.

Enmity down gear anyone? Enmity plus gear anyone?

 

[masterorion]

In my experience it's based on the amount healed. At lower levels, Paladins were able to use invincible to pull the monsters off me, but when I used it in a 70 fight Invincible didn't do anything.

i think they have nerfed invincible a tad. dont quote me on that, but ive seemed to notice a hate difference for quite a few months now

 

[Bajaratt]

That could be MO, I just thought it was because I healed about 7k hp in 2 seconds; that's a shitload of hate to make up for.

 

[Twille]

Benediction gives hate in relation to the amount of HP cured when used. But, because it is a Job Ability, even if no HP is recovered when used, a small amount of hate is generated.

To add to what MasterOrion mentioned, i too have noticed a difference in the effect Invicible has on a mobs hate...it seems to have been nerfed, but i could just be crazy...

 

[Bigboy]

Benediction at higher levels is used on people with much larger hp pools and thus ends up curing for ALOT more hp. I think Benediction is proportion hate as many others have said, but Invincible stays the same from 1-75. That would explain why it is not as seemingly potent as it was at lower levels, but when coparing hate generated by Benediction to Invincible, it would make sense that benedictions going from restoring a full PT for 600hp to doing that same but for 3000hp would make invincible seem less effective.

It's not so much Invincible getting less effective, but Benediction being incredibly more effective. But considering all the +Emnity and -Emnity gear out there by the 70s the difference would only be slightly noticable, unlike you would expect such a large number change to create.

*I think I typed all that with horrible grammar. I apologize in advance.