Bible Thumpers

[Westyle]

If you have sex with your clone is it gay or masturbation?

 

[alanon]

If you have sex with your clone is it gay or masturbation?

Definitely NOT masturbation. My clone would roll over and go to sleep after getting his "cookie" and I'd have to go usleep "unsatisfied". So yeah, NOT Masturbation.

 

[Mielle]

Holy shit, I had no idea I had typed that much. My apologies. Truth be known, I should have been in bed hours ago.

I think I just got caught up in a flow of consciousness trap, there ... literally typing out every possible angle to my argument that I could possibly conceive of. It's thorough, but not concise. I'm really very sorry.

I think I should go to bed. :/

I actually thought that was one of the more coherent and cohesive posts I have seen on this board for a long time.

 

[Nicolette]

Yea I loved reading winlewil's posts, if we had a karma system here i'd throw alot at him.

 

[Direwolf]

If the Christian God was so forgiving and what not, why the fuck would s/he/it give a damn one way or another what you do with a willing partner? I DESPISE those people who use their God as justification for controlling your behavior.
To say that "My God hates you and evereything your about, go repent or burn in hell until the end of time", I mean really WTF?! That aint a merciful God, no matter how you look at it, I mean really, you sure you aint worshiping your dreaded Satan or something? Talk about the need to have utter control over how you live your life. And with worse fear tactics then the Nazis or Communists used. Think about it, at worse they could kill you. Bible is threatining to have you burn in a pit of fire and ice for all eternity alongside those who truely deserve to Rot, murderers, rapists etc. Yea THATS cool.

What the flying fuck gives the Christians, or Muslims for that matter, new religions in the grand scheme of things, any right to condescend other people for how they live their lives. How is being gay/straight/bi/polygomist have any detrimental affect whatsoever on another persons life? They are not harming other people, offending them sure, why not, but no actual harm is being done.

 

[Direwolf]

I don't despise religion, though it may sound that way in my post. I despise people who use Religion as a means to justify them being a complete fucking asswad, aka bigot. I despise certain organized religions because they are a haven for many times hypocritical bigots. Am a strong believer in the "Live and let live" philosiphy of simply not caring what other people do so long its reasonably within the law. AKA causing tangibale harm to other people is where I draw the line.

 

[Kinkkerbelle]

Kink... I understand you entirely.. I, for a long time, considered myself Bi... Men just weren't AS attractive as females to me.... Now ...... I see all men.... as nothing relationship worthy... I'm not a man hater.. I have guy friends, but I will never in my life dare to bother with one emotionally.. I got a lot of crap from the "no guys" crowd.. and the straight girls..

I am sorry you have experienced the same sort of bias. My heart and brain really don't take gender into account when it is seeking companionship, love, sex or a casual OTK. I am attracted to people not genders. As much as we pretend it doesn't matter, acceptance of who and what we are is very important to our psyches. It's instinctual and prehistoric, if you weren't accepted by the tribe, you were pretty much dead.

Trying to convert Bible thumpers into believing that your lifestyle is okay is a total waste of breath, they are taught that they get treasure in heaven for converting you to their point of view, so it's sort of like they are using you to farm heavenly gil. I just tell them that I'm never going to drop anything good for them, so they can move on.

<okay enuff corny FFXI analogies>

 

[Cleofis]

If the Christian God was so forgiving and what not, why the fuck would s/he/it give a damn one way or another what you do with a willing partner? I DESPISE those people who use their God as justification for controlling your behavior.
To say that "My God hates you and evereything your about, go repent or burn in hell until the end of time", I mean really WTF?! That aint a merciful God, no matter how you look at it, I mean really, you sure you aint worshiping your dreaded Satan or something? Talk about the need to have utter control over how you live your life. And with worse fear tactics then the Nazis or Communists used. Think about it, at worse they could kill you. Bible is threatining to have you burn in a pit of fire and ice for all eternity alongside those who truely deserve to Rot, murderers, rapists etc. Yea THATS cool.

What the flying fuck gives the Christians, or Muslims for that matter, new religions in the grand scheme of things, any right to condescend other people for how they live their lives. How is being gay/straight/bi/polygomist have any detrimental affect whatsoever on another persons life? They are not harming other people, offending them sure, why not, but no actual harm is being done.

Well I think true Christians don't like gay people because the bible tells them not to. I mean as far as I know it's a sin and therefore they aren't going to be in favour of it.

That being said as long as they keep shush about it and don't go around telling people "you're a fag, burn in hell" they should be allowed to have their own opinions, after all freedom of speech and all that jazz. It's when they go out causing trouble and spouting on about discriminatory crap that I get annoyed.

 

[Cleofis]

Okay this is gonna be weird coming from me.... but I HATE you catholic/christian bible-thumping ignorant pieces of garbage

Surely it can't just be me that thinks this statement automatically makes her as bad as said bible-thumping ignorant piece of garbage?

 

[Padington]

Kink's reply is my personal favourite so far..."heavenly gil" lmao.

 

[Helsing]

i have read portions of the bible and i belive that some christians are infact hypocrites not saying that any of you are or anything but from my experince some are perhaps this one needs to simply be reminded of a verse (sp?) >.< well this is it.. here. Judge, not and ye shall not be judged: Condemn not and ye shall not be condemned: Forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: Luke 6:37 some i have seen neglect this part.. and as far as i belive i think people should do what makes them happy.

 

[Ronith]

Okay this is gonna be weird coming from me.... but I HATE you catholic/christian bible-thumping ignorant pieces of garbage. Mind you, I am a lesbian, so I deal with enough of your crap.. but take into consideration I follow Christian faith.
God loves everyone, I don't think he'd love me less for choosing with the heart he gave me... anyhow....

Story/Rant:

I have a good friend (newish but I think she's awesome) who was recently exping and her sexuality came to topic (I dunno how, but it did) and someone told her it was wrong.... that she'd "never experience true love".......
Well of course I had to find the name and ask him why he felt this way.. As I find that to be... :banghead3: <-

So I talk to him and remain tactful, seeing as cursing and yelling doesn't go over well when talking to bible-thumpers.. they never get angry it's frustrating as hell. Over the course of the conversation I am told how it's "wrong" and a "sin" and all this... It's like, what if I was Athiest? Most homosexual's don't quite jump on the God train.. but he continues to push on about how "God" this and "God" that it's like....... hello... I don't care what God thinks... If you are a Christian.... "God" gave us free will, and made us how we are.
Ever notice when something good happens "Oh thank God!"
but when something bad happens,............... ?

I'm sorry, why is it God is only there in the minds of people who have fortune? Yet the ones suffering in the slums, starving to death as they pray to god, die miserably? Nah I don't thank or blame god, I find him as just "is".

If you don't believe in god.... Then his whole point was invalid and baseless.. I'm sorry but the fact people SHOVE religion down your throat reminds me of why society sucks.....

I know, random as hell.. its 5am... I'm tired..... and this pissed me off but I am trying not to go off on it.
hows this though?

-.- The blurrs are conversation with said friend and another .... there is like 10 pages worth but that last line...... :banghead3: :banghead3: :banghead3: :banghead3:

I dunno.... I try to defend my faith but times like this... I dunno why.

and sorry for the crappy smudge job, I suck with other people's hands, only good with mine <.<

Wait wait wait... YOU'RE LESBIAN!?!?!??!??!?!?! OMFG /blist!!

...

These guys have a point tho Shai... if you intiated the convo/arguement he was entitled to defend himself on his beliefs just as you were, altho I do and I mean DO hate it when people push religion on you... my g/fs mom is fucking nazi bible thumper to the 10th degree, I know nazi bible thumper double negative gtfo it's a point now hush..

But when I see my mom with her cross on, (She works with St. Johns Hospital so... kinda standard) she always laughs and shoves it in my face... same with the magnets, my mom got one of those damn magnets

"Jesus loves me this I know, because the bible tells me so." I rip that shit off the fridge everytime I see it on there, she does it to mess with me, and she knows damn well I can't stand that shit -_-;

When I think about people pushing religion on me... I reflect on the infamous Robin Williams words:

"You know those kind of people, who come to your door at 6 o'clock in the morning 'Have you found Jesus?' You just wanna come to do the door naked and say 'No I havent come on in, help me look for him!'"

 

[Ronith]

btw, I was joking about the whole /blist thing... if you couldnt tell... <3 free will and do wtf ever you want^^ Gay straight bi wtfever idc, you're nice to me, I'm nice to you, just how I am

 

[Blackchaoshero]

my belief is that if there is a god, and as the bible says he created everyone unique, made everyone with their own strengths and therefore made people with weaknesses in certain areas. Thus, as you are made by god you are thrust into the world as an infant, exposed to everything else who were also made by god. You react to every situation in the way god must have known you would because he created you to the detail... right? therefore when you get to where in your life you are the sum all of all the choices made with the strengths and weaknesses god saw fit to give you and the total of all the interactions you made with people god made with strengths and weaknesses. Therefor, by the logic i hope i have behind my argument if you're gay it's gods fault, if you stray away from the ideals of god, it's gods fault. If god hadn't made adam and eve flawed then they wouldn't have been tempted at all? or if he had made them less flawed even they would have resisted. In the end if there is a god we're living roles already cast and a script already written by god himself. i can't see how the church, any religion at all or any god there is can condemn you for what they made you.

 

[Mokk]

Wow ... where to start .. ok:

The bible was probably the best fictional novel i've ever read. Not to say that jesus/god didn't/doesn't exist .. but come on these were practicly cavemen working for an indoctrination, if you can't come to the conclusion it's been hyped up a bit for it's own purposes i've got beachfront property in arizona for ya. More to the point the current translation of the bible is being called in to question on numerous levels as MANY things were translated incorrectly or simply don't make sense. 'nuff said on my thoughts about that.

By the logic of the roller in question everyone should run out and go get slaves and beat up the next educated woman they see.

I can dig why you'd approach this person based on what was said to your friend, your personal situation, and a need for some kind of dialogue. That your temper was cool to begin with is no small feat. But to the contrary i'd say you knew better going in what their demeanor was going to be and that you weren't going to convert anyone of that mindset that your situation is ok given the moral set they had already shown. Likewise the thumper in question behaved as the ill-informed do and attempted to make a compromised idiot of you for their own means.

I like BCH's take on things. I'm a deist (some kind of god's out there, but i think mankind is dumb as hell when it comes to knowing where.) I like the accountability being on god where it should be in the first place. You can't attribute that much power to something without also noting that the things you may not find comforting are also just as much his creation as those things you hold dear to your heart.

Next time you get ahold of someone like that send them to trippyhippy; last time mormons came to the door he got all giddy and spent 2hrs talking them out of it on the front porch. XD

 

[Mokk]

Btw, evanglism of the entire planet brings on the rapture.

Evangelical christianity = terrorism.

 

[Astraea]

I didnt read the whole post, it is a lot to read, I just saw the opeining. I am sure this stubborn and closed minded person is closer to God than anyone and that is why he has to rite to pass judgment on man kind. I dont remember seeing the word "HOMO" in the bible but I do know it dose say that only thoses few special people who are better than anyone/everyone els, you know those perfect people, have the right to pass judgment on anyone they want. Godlike!

 

[Tagrineth]

i've got beachfront property in arizona for ya.

Dude, sweet! Gimme a quote on that shit, I want in on that!

 

[Tagrineth]

*~ Holy man open up your eyes
To the ways of the world you've been so blind
As the walls of religion come crashing down

How's the ignorance taste the second time around

Tell me how it feels knowing chaos will never end
Tell me what's it's like when the celebration begins

Welcome to the horror of the revelation
Tell me what you think of your saviour now
I reject all the biblical views of the truth
Dismiss it as the folklore of the times
I won't be force-fed prophecies
From a book of untruths for the weakest mind
Join the new faith for the celebration
Cult of new faith fuels the devastation

Holy man come worship me
I am all that you ever wanted to be
I'm the life of indulgence you never knew
The epitome of evil shining through

Tell me how it feels knowing chaos will never end
Tell me what it's like when the celebration begins

Welcome to the horror of the revelation
Tell me what you think of your saviour now
I reject all the biblical views of the truth
Dismiss it as the folklore of the times
I won't be force-fed prophecies
From a book of untruths for the weakest mind
I keep the bible in a pool of bood
So that none of its likes can affect me ~*

 

[Ronith]

*~ Holy man open up your eyes
To the ways of the world you've been so blind
As the walls of religion come crashing down

How's the ignorance taste the second time around

Tell me how it feels knowing chaos will never end
Tell me what's it's like when the celebration begins

Welcome to the horror of the revelation
Tell me what you think of your saviour now
I reject all the biblical views of the truth
Dismiss it as the folklore of the times
I won't be force-fed prophecies
From a book of untruths for the weakest mind
Join the new faith for the celebration
Cult of new faith fuels the devastation

Holy man come worship me
I am all that you ever wanted to be
I'm the life of indulgence you never knew
The epitome of evil shining through

Tell me how it feels knowing chaos will never end
Tell me what it's like when the celebration begins

Welcome to the horror of the revelation
Tell me what you think of your saviour now
I reject all the biblical views of the truth
Dismiss it as the folklore of the times
I won't be force-fed prophecies
From a book of untruths for the weakest mind
I keep the bible in a pool of bood
So that none of its likes can affect me ~*

What's that from Tag?