Blm, Is it for real, or just nuking?

[Peregrine]

You were never here with as little as you've contributed.

 

[Firestreak]

You know Peregrine it's funny how you say we're not more too powerful but at the same time you call us imbalanced and say we should be nerfed. And christ, the reward has NOTHING to do with your LS, nor the community around you. It's really quite simple. Blackmages want gear with INT, Magic Attack Bonus and Elemental Magic. Take a good hard look at drops at sky, off the 3 kings and off the wyrms. You'll only find A Hands, which drops off the easiest endgame NM there ever was.
If BLMs didn't have dedication to stay for the fun of it, there WOULDN'T be an endgame.

 

[Mirewen]

They level blm for the power when they're really not all that powerful.

Again, telling us what we think. I level'd BLM because it has always been my favourite in FF, it had nothing to do with power.

 

[meeze]

if there were no blm's, who would D2 me after i got my pimp gear?

 

[Afterhour]

if there were no blm's, who would D2 me after i got my pimp gear?

lol that is true

 

[Skaw]

if there were no blm's, who would D2 me after i got my pimp gear?

Warp Cudgels!

 

[Afterhour]

if there were no blm's, who would D2 me after i got my pimp gear?

Warp Cudgels!

i wanted to say that but i didnt want to sound like a bitch and a Anti-BLM

 

[Skaw]

if there were no blm's, who would D2 me after i got my pimp gear?

Warp Cudgels!

i wanted to say that but i didnt want to sound like a bitch and a Anti-BLM

So instead you want to sound like a sheep by calling someone Anti-BLM?

I don't dislike BLMs. Like I said. It isn't Black Mage thats the issue. It's people who abuse the instant damage by stacking them. Good try though, scammer. If you noticed, I said all jobs aren't required to do everything, not just BLM. Learn to read while you're pricing Shihei at 5k/pop in Bazaar.

 

[Daveman]

Wouldn't the so called imbalance be that blms are that powerful Anyways, I don't see anything wrong with blm cannons. We're playing the cards that have been delt to us, you can't blame a blm for getting 17 other blms to do DM, and you can't blame a blm for getting 5 other blms to cannon exp, and you can't blame 5 blms for doing ks30 runs for other people.

Yeah it's not fair 18 thfs can't do DM, but you can't really be so hateful for blms taking advantage of it. SE should fix these types of fights so you can't cannon it, true, but why hold so much hate towards blms who do these types of things? out of the 18 blms who I did DM with, almost all of them have done DM again since then, and not with a cannon. When a blm gets a tell "hey we need you for ks30, you don't need your own seals" is it that person's fault for not turning down up to like 2.5million gil at no risk to themselves?

You seem to be really hateful towards blms like alanon, fire, and mirwen when you're the one starting really hateful comments, it invites an angry and arrogant tone back to you. They're just defending their job which you've insulted very genrally, you keep saying "you blms, you blms" they'll keep saying "you melees, you melees" as a reply.

If anything you should take your problems about blms to SE, not the blms themselves. I for one wouldn't turn down a ks30 just because it's unfair that I'm gonna get basically free gil just because of my job, it's not like I'm stealing, I'm not breaking any rules.

 

[Firestreak]

I'll just point out I respect the many melees in my LS that have gotten their endgame gear and keep coming every week as much as they did before. I am simply stepping up and pointing out the the first pieces of gear are going to go to the people who need them more and that is based on job. Sometimes after getting their gear people stay, sometimes they don't. I'd just like to represent that people with lower priority jobs on items are the onws who as result get most screwed. And I do believe it is selfish to as a BLM take a A head when a WHM still needs it. But then I believe it's selfish for the WHM to leave before the BLM gets it. That's just my own personal belief system... and I'm sorry Peregrine, but you cannot tell me my basic morals are wrong.because everyone has their own right to feel differently there.

I'll just point out if your morals differ from mine tell me first and I'll be taking that A head before you. =p

 

[Pompidou]

I don't dislike BLMs. Like I said. It isn't Black Mage thats the issue. It's people who abuse the instant damage by stacking them.

I agree with that. Nerf the ability to stack jobs. Leave the jobs alone. If stacking jobs is going to be nerfed, then nerf all cases of job stacking, and not just the most popular. You don't want same job parties, alliances etc, then make sure it can never happen again. It'd be easier for SE to code a limit to each job in a group than it would be for them to continually knock down the king of the hill. Maybe SE could force job variety. That'd nip the problem at the source, and the only people who would lose are the ones that can't think outside the box.

 

[Osse]

Peregrine:

Maybe you'll learn how reality works when you're older. I'm not reading between the lines. This is how adults communicate with each other. The producer is disgusted with the types of people who play blm for the power. Period.

I amuse you? That's odd...you bore me

Yes, I laugh at you with every post you make. You are obtuse and unobservant. You criticize others for personality flaws that you proudly display with an air of superiority. You are an odd caricature of a pseudo-man. I agree with some of your points (which if you actually *could* read between the lines you would see) but can never back you up on any of it. You enter a neutral crowd spewing bile, and enter a hostile crowd with both barrels blazing. You create enemies where there are none, and alienate friends and allies at every breath.

How many posts have I read where others have correctly predicted your knee-jerk reaction? You are only one step above a troll in that you actually try to make a point. If I and the others here bore you, then stick to your LS boards. That would deny me my little diversion, but you could never do that anyway. I can always count on you to charge head-long from having a good point to being a rude and in-the-wrong asshole.

The quote of you above contains several amusing displays of flagrant ignorance and idiocy. However, I'll leave these as little inside jokes for me and my group of friends.

BTW, how's Dynamis-Jeuno going?^^

 

[Firestreak]

Skaw you ever gotten invited to a MNK bones cannon and replied no because you think it's abusing h2h damage? This is not rhetorical, I'd like for you to seriously answer yes or no.

 

[Peregrine]

**** ten pages already. My goal's already have been shattered with this topic. I got Thing 1 and Thing 2 to post, which was a resounding success. The most stuckup black mages on the server, all at my fingertips listening to what I have to tell them.

I just want you to know...in case you get lonely when no one will take you on the sole basis of your job after the nerf...seat's taken. We got blm's of real worth on the server that played with the likes of us instead of above us all along. Go flare a bumblebee, you pathetic stuckup little brats. Nerf's coming. It'll be hard. It'll be devastating to your ego. And you're afraid of it. You're afraid of how normal it'll make you. You're afraid that when you ask if anyone wants to make money as a group, the crickets start. Oh the meleers know those crickets all too well. Welcome to FFXI, brats. Nerf's coming. Can you hear it?

Maybe if you had ever been worth a dime, I'd feel for you. But since that's not the case, it's pretty funny. Better blms will adapt. You won't, because you don't have it in you. You will wither away like the nothing you always were.

Yeah I just want you to know that it was me who knocked you off your pedestal. It's coming kiddos. Time to pay the piper for what you've done to the server. You don't think we can do it without you? Funny, I don't see anyone who cares what you think. Look around. The developers want it. The fans want it. So you're done, and I suppose the entertainment of the thread is done as well. As the internet DNA-damaged would say these days: kthkbai

 

[Firestreak]

Am I the only one who thinks Peregrine kind of sounds like one of those diabolical bond villians who will always act like no matter how much you just fucked them up will be like "aha I planned this all along, look, I have a stick of dynamite up my rectum!"

 

[Skaw]

I don't dislike BLMs. Like I said. It isn't Black Mage thats the issue. It's people who abuse the instant damage by stacking them.

I agree with that. Nerf the ability to stack jobs. Leave the jobs alone. If stacking jobs is going to be nerfed, then nerf all cases of job stacking, and not just the most popular. You don't want same job parties, alliances etc, then make sure it can never happen again. It'd be easier for SE to code a limit to each job in a group than it would be for them to continually knock down the king of the hill. Maybe SE could force job variety. That'd nip the problem at the source, and the only people who would lose are the ones that can't think outside the box.

I'm also not against people going free choice. The deal is, due to instant damage that Black Mage causes, theres virtually no risk in some encounters(Divine Might.) The best solution would be my resist idea. A real-quick temporary boost to magic resistance after you're hit with one of the 6 elemental DD spells. The only way you could possibly get around that fix would be to land all nukes at the same exact moment. Which due to lag and human error, is nigh impossible.

Could you still stack? yes. You'd have to time your nukes seperately. Would I have a problem with that? No. Because theres still the risk of losing. Just like MNK stacking in Ranperres. It's not 100% safe.

Black Mage stacking is just taking the easy(broken) way out, avoiding any challenge(risk) and any potential fun.

Is winning fun? Yeah.

Is winning and making an accomplishment more fun? Ofcourse. Theres a lot of fun in earning the right to yell "I showed you!" to Square.

Dropping nearly 30000 damage on 5 mobs all that the same time, isn't as fun as narrowly avoiding death to do it over time.

Skaw you ever gotten invited to a MNK bones cannon and replied no because you think it's abusing h2h damage? This is not rhetorical, I'd like for you to seriously answer yes or no.

I refuse to go to Ranperre's Tomb in general if I can. :?

I've never been in any true MNK cannon PTs there either. Closest I've been was 3 MNK(Me, Makzilla, and Xion) and 2 MNK(Me and Marioni.) EXP, in my opinion, still sucked shit.

 

[Firestreak]

I must say... Divine Might is really not the fucking hard.

And to Peregrine and Skaw, I challenge you to this...

Try and beat the 2nd to last CoP BC without a BLM.

 

[Skaw]

I must say... Divine Might is really not the fucking hard.

And to Peregrine and Skaw, I challenge you to this...

Try and beat the 2nd to last CoP BC without a BLM.

Would help if I can even get invited to the Promyvions. Fucking cookiecutters. Different topic all together though.

 

[Peregrine]

Did ouryu without a blm. We'll see how it goes. The biggest mistake I ever made when fighting diabolos was to invite a dark knight. Nothing against dark knights, but dependance is inferior to cooperation. But like I said, I know black mages who don't remind everyone that they're black mages every time they get the chance. I know black mages who don't have to be nerfed to appreciate the worth of a dragoon.

 

[Firestreak]

C'mon now Skaw, have you ever refuse a party because you believed because having multiple MNKs it make "xp too easy".

I'll also point out, 5 BLM and a BRD is not risk free. You are potentially going to die at least once and get raise 1.