Blm, Is it for real, or just nuking?

[Lokkin]

I am completely out of this, I thought nuking was what BLM's did in parties >.> nuke = cast big spells that makes the peoples fall down???

 

[Passions]

nuke = cast big spells that makes the peoples fall down???

LMAO funny ^^ i thought that two :/ {Hmmm.} interesting, but lets gimp them and spend 3 yrs whacking at them with our swords and claws EH ^^, i think they should gimp blm and do away with skillchains i mean why kill a mob fast, and thats all a skillchain is extra damage melee dont need right? i mean gimp skillchains i mean why do you need to combine your skills the do more damage ? your so uber you dont need blm the pound on a mob during that time. all the arguements are pathetic about blm needing a gimp. look at the dot blm never wins that gidrr they're there the make it faster and your trying the fuck that up by gimping them. they ONLY reason i would say gimp blm is because there a lot of spam happy bitches out there that can't play the job for shit and dont read up on the job or what mobs are weak to. wOOt lets spam STONGA II on a antica cause we just got it um NO! if it made the job a lil more challenging i'm all for that, but i invest a lot of money in my gear and a lot of macros the swap it for what i need. how many melee have 60 MACROs for there job? for just a party session? how many spend 30k+ the get 10k xp excluding ninjas? say your gear is more then mine try me my 1 earring cost 2.3 mil BIACH. I bring everything i can to the table and expect the same from my melee i dont claim i'm higher then them or better. EVERY skillchain i make is best rounded for the over all damage not HEY this is my new spell were gonna chain for it NO, you look at melee weaponskills and there damage out put and manage with that the get the MOST from EVERY MEMBER of the party. This is retarted the gimp a job because you think they can do everything alone, um no we can't. thats like saying mnks should be gimped cause they have lots of HP's and do really good damage and with a summoner they could get REALLY GOOD XP OMG GIMP THEM. I work damn hard the be the best i can be and people that say blm needs a gimp sicken me because there blm is usually only 1 or 17 for warp. If they gimp it guess what, ILL STILL PLAY IT! but you ass hat melee probably wont invite me to your party cause youll say blm is too weak. Hard enough the get a party now as it is, cause there is usually like 3 blm's my lvl seeking party. you think blm is so different but you have no idea!

 

[Rinoah]

nuke = cast big spells that makes the peoples fall down???

LMAO funny ^^ i thought that two :/ {Hmmm.} interesting, but lets gimp them and spend 3 yrs whacking at them with our swords and claws EH ^^, i think they should gimp blm and do away with skillchains i mean why kill a mob fast, and thats all a skillchain is extra damage melee dont need right? i mean gimp skillchains i mean why do you need to combine your skills the do more damage ? your so uber you dont need blm the pound on a mob during that time. all the arguements are pathetic about blm needing a gimp. look at the dot blm never wins that gidrr they're there the make it faster and your trying the fuck that up by gimping them. they ONLY reason i would say gimp blm is because there a lot of spam happy bitches out there that can't play the job for shit and dont read up on the job or what mobs are weak to. wOOt lets spam STONGA II on a antica cause we just got it um NO! if it made the job a lil more challenging i'm all for that, but i invest a lot of money in my gear and a lot of macros the swap it for what i need. how many melee have 60 MACROs for there job? for just a party session? how many spend 30k+ the get 10k xp excluding ninjas? say your gear is more then mine try me my 1 earring cost 2.3 mil BIACH. I bring everything i can to the table and expect the same from my melee i dont claim i'm higher then them or better. EVERY skillchain i make is best rounded for the over all damage not HEY this is my new spell were gonna chain for it NO, you look at melee weaponskills and there damage out put and manage with that the get the MOST from EVERY MEMBER of the party. This is retarted the gimp a job because you think they can do everything alone, um no we can't. thats like saying mnks should be gimped cause they have lots of HP's and do really good damage and with a summoner they could get REALLY GOOD XP OMG GIMP THEM. I work damn hard the be the best i can be and people that say blm needs a gimp sicken me because there blm is usually only 1 or 17 for warp. If they gimp it guess what, ILL STILL PLAY IT! but you ass hat melee probably wont invite me to your party cause youll say blm is too weak. Hard enough the get a party now as it is, cause there is usually like 3 blm's my lvl seeking party. you think blm is so different but you have no idea!

I really do not recommend argueing with a meleer over how much they spend on gear and food. Sole Sushi +1 is at least 30k a stack, and that probably won't last them 10k xp.

And you have a 2.3mil earring...great they have a scrop harness which is 5mil last i checked...so unless you have any HQ staves you wanna throw in?

Don't try and play the "its expensive to be a mage" card because it never works :x .

 

[Padington]

All I know for sure is I'm a BLM75 and proud of it. Whenever anyone wants my help with AF or mission or whatever it's always as a BLM and not one of my other jobs so I think we must be good for something :wink:

 

[Passions]

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I really do not recommend argueing with a meleer over how much they spend on gear and food. Sole Sushi +1 is at least 30k a stack, and that probably won't last them 10k xp.

And you have a 2.3mil earring...great they have a scrop harness which is 5mil last i checked...so unless you have any HQ staves you wanna throw in?

Don't try and play the "its expensive to be a mage" card because it never works :x .

actually sole suchi +1 is around 100+k a stack and is a complete waist till later later lvls for +1% acc increase PFF sole suchi NQ is 34k a stack. SH wow you paid 5mil wOOt i got more then that in 2 HQ staffs let alone THERE ARE 8 of them. Your agrument is insignificant, my point was that i put as much into my job as i can and you bishes wana gimp it cause your jelous honesly thats what i came to. other wise wtf do you care? blm isn't even my main and i dont think it needs a gimp, i'm not only a mage i play thf in mid upper lvls also. i've played mnk drk nin Hmm. but i have a biased opinion? seriously going back BLM puts in that EXTRA damage for a max number at sertain times. and when your melee ass can go into dynamis i wish you'd die as much as they do. THEY ARE HARD WORKERS with little return and you guys bitch at them for that. the sad thing is i'm sure the gimp will come then i'm gonna wait the see WHO's NEXT in the fireing line. i think they should gimp paladin they hold hate to well lets make it so the melee can get hit and die more i think that should be more fair. comeon people play your job and like it, dont bitch because someone else's job does something yours doesn't. You do have freedom of choice either ignor their job and like yours, quit, or deal with it? honesly i'm dont posting on this topic cause it wont ever get through your thick skullz. i'm just going to sit back and wait, if and when it does happen I'll adjust but i highly doublt they gonna run up the sky with 18 sams and 18 mnks and 12 paladains 12 whms and 6 rdms i mean seriously does that sould fun? actuallylol it does, will you make any money fuck no look at al lthat spliting just the take down a damn mob! plus a lot more death will come :/
OMG how much more crowded is sky gonna get after they gimp blm. it will be interesting the see how we manage :/ but my ass will be up there Aint nothing gonna HOLD ME DOWN

 

[Bajaratt]

Passions, I'm not even going to bother trying to read what you're posting, because I don't need the headache from your inability to hit the enter key.

From what I gathered based on Rinoah's response, you're whining because you spent a lot of money on your job and SE has said that they are looking for a way to balance blm better. I have less sympathy for you spending money on leveling than I do a rng, because you can sell it all back when you inevitably quit in "defiance" of the nerf. You're even doing the same whining that the rng's did before they got nerfed, throwing in the dumbest ideas for nerfs because you can't think of a single reason not to.

Black mage is overpowered, that's not jealousy, that's simply stating the obvious. I'm hoping that they will have learned from the rng nerf, and won't go as far with this one, but I can't say for sure, no one can. Ranger is still useful even in endgame(where they whined the most), you just can't throw a bunch of rng's at the mob anymore, that's all. The same thing will likely happen to black mage, still be useful, but people won't bring 10 of them to anything because they "need" to.

Once again, SE is making changes because they see an imbalance. Skaw and others said it multiple times, that the blm's are flaunting their overpoweredness.

 

[Rinoah]

Passions, I'm not even going to bother trying to read what you're posting, because I don't need the headache from your inability to hit the enter key.

From what I gathered based on Rinoah's response, you're whining because you spent a lot of money on your job and SE has said that they are looking for a way to balance blm better. I have less sympathy for you spending money on leveling than I do a rng, because you can sell it all back when you inevitably quit in "defiance" of the nerf. You're even doing the same whining that the rng's did before they got nerfed, throwing in the dumbest ideas for nerfs because you can't think of a single reason not to.

Black mage is overpowered, that's not jealousy, that's simply stating the obvious. I'm hoping that they will have learned from the rng nerf, and won't go as far with this one, but I can't say for sure, no one can. Ranger is still useful even in endgame(where they whined the most), you just can't throw a bunch of rng's at the mob anymore, that's all. The same thing will likely happen to black mage, still be useful, but people won't bring 10 of them to anything because they "need" to.

Once again, SE is making changes because they see an imbalance. Skaw and others said it multiple times, that the blm's are flaunting their overpoweredness.

I think she was complaining about the gimping in general...but i only made it as far as "i own a 2.3mil earring" before my head started to hurt...so i commented on that

 

[Blackchaoshero]

nuke = cast big spells that makes the peoples fall down???

LMAO funny ^^ i thought that two :/ {Hmmm.} interesting, but lets gimp them and spend 3 yrs whacking at them with our swords and claws EH ^^, i think they should gimp blm and do away with skillchains i mean why kill a mob fast, and thats all a skillchain is extra damage melee dont need right? i mean gimp skillchains i mean why do you need to combine your skills the do more damage ? your so uber you dont need blm the pound on a mob during that time. all the arguements are pathetic about blm needing a gimp. look at the dot blm never wins that gidrr they're there the make it faster and your trying the fuck that up by gimping them. they ONLY reason i would say gimp blm is because there a lot of spam happy bitches out there that can't play the job for shit and dont read up on the job or what mobs are weak to. wOOt lets spam STONGA II on a antica cause we just got it um NO! if it made the job a lil more challenging i'm all for that, but i invest a lot of money in my gear and a lot of macros the swap it for what i need. how many melee have 60 MACROs for there job? for just a party session? how many spend 30k+ the get 10k xp excluding ninjas? say your gear is more then mine try me my 1 earring cost 2.3 mil BIACH. I bring everything i can to the table and expect the same from my melee i dont claim i'm higher then them or better. EVERY skillchain i make is best rounded for the over all damage not HEY this is my new spell were gonna chain for it NO, you look at melee weaponskills and there damage out put and manage with that the get the MOST from EVERY MEMBER of the party. This is retarted the gimp a job because you think they can do everything alone, um no we can't. thats like saying mnks should be gimped cause they have lots of HP's and do really good damage and with a summoner they could get REALLY GOOD XP OMG GIMP THEM. I work damn hard the be the best i can be and people that say blm needs a gimp sicken me because there blm is usually only 1 or 17 for warp. If they gimp it guess what, ILL STILL PLAY IT! but you ass hat melee probably wont invite me to your party cause youll say blm is too weak. Hard enough the get a party now as it is, cause there is usually like 3 blm's my lvl seeking party. you think blm is so different but you have no idea!

I really do not recommend argueing with a meleer over how much they spend on gear and food. Sole Sushi +1 is at least 30k a stack, and that probably won't last them 10k xp.

And you have a 2.3mil earring...great they have a scrop harness which is 5mil last i checked...so unless you have any HQ staves you wanna throw in?

Don't try and play the "its expensive to be a mage" card because it never works :x .

rin, my 2 rings cost the same as a SH, My spells which i can never ever get the gil back from add up to close that much, my staves cost 1.5-2.5 mil each, my neck pieces cost 1.8 and 3.2 mil, my major body pieces are 2.5 + 600k, my belt is 2m, my ammunition is 600k, a pair of boots i want costs 200k and the other costs over a mil,

Never call blm a cheap job, it isn't, once the melee sells his gear back he has the same amount he started with, with a SH these days he made a profit... i've still yet to find the button that unlearns a spell and gives me my scroll back[/u]

 

[Rinoah]

nuke = cast big spells that makes the peoples fall down???

LMAO funny ^^ i thought that two :/ {Hmmm.} interesting, but lets gimp them and spend 3 yrs whacking at them with our swords and claws EH ^^, i think they should gimp blm and do away with skillchains i mean why kill a mob fast, and thats all a skillchain is extra damage melee dont need right? i mean gimp skillchains i mean why do you need to combine your skills the do more damage ? your so uber you dont need blm the pound on a mob during that time. all the arguements are pathetic about blm needing a gimp. look at the dot blm never wins that gidrr they're there the make it faster and your trying the fuck that up by gimping them. they ONLY reason i would say gimp blm is because there a lot of spam happy bitches out there that can't play the job for shit and dont read up on the job or what mobs are weak to. wOOt lets spam STONGA II on a antica cause we just got it um NO! if it made the job a lil more challenging i'm all for that, but i invest a lot of money in my gear and a lot of macros the swap it for what i need. how many melee have 60 MACROs for there job? for just a party session? how many spend 30k+ the get 10k xp excluding ninjas? say your gear is more then mine try me my 1 earring cost 2.3 mil BIACH. I bring everything i can to the table and expect the same from my melee i dont claim i'm higher then them or better. EVERY skillchain i make is best rounded for the over all damage not HEY this is my new spell were gonna chain for it NO, you look at melee weaponskills and there damage out put and manage with that the get the MOST from EVERY MEMBER of the party. This is retarted the gimp a job because you think they can do everything alone, um no we can't. thats like saying mnks should be gimped cause they have lots of HP's and do really good damage and with a summoner they could get REALLY GOOD XP OMG GIMP THEM. I work damn hard the be the best i can be and people that say blm needs a gimp sicken me because there blm is usually only 1 or 17 for warp. If they gimp it guess what, ILL STILL PLAY IT! but you ass hat melee probably wont invite me to your party cause youll say blm is too weak. Hard enough the get a party now as it is, cause there is usually like 3 blm's my lvl seeking party. you think blm is so different but you have no idea!

I really do not recommend argueing with a meleer over how much they spend on gear and food. Sole Sushi +1 is at least 30k a stack, and that probably won't last them 10k xp.

And you have a 2.3mil earring...great they have a scrop harness which is 5mil last i checked...so unless you have any HQ staves you wanna throw in?

Don't try and play the "its expensive to be a mage" card because it never works :x .

rin, my 2 rings cost the same as a SH, My spells which i can never ever get the gil back from add up to close that much, my staves cost 1.5-2.5 mil each, my neck pieces cost 1.8 and 3.2 mil, my major body pieces are 2.5 + 600k, my belt is 2m, my ammunition is 600k, a pair of boots i want costs 200k and the other costs over a mil,

Never call blm a cheap job, it isn't, once the melee sells his gear back he has the same amount he started with, with a SH these days he made a profit... i've still yet to find the button that unlearns a spell and gives me my scroll back[/u]

I was commenting on lvl 50-60 region. Since i got the impression thats the sort of region passion is levelwise.

And i never said BLM is cheap, i just said that meleers spend more at that llevel, which unless you own all the HQ ele staves is more than likely true.

 

[Passions]

It's NOT ABOUT THE MONEY

Gil is gil, yeah i work for it and it takes a lot of time the get, but i'm talking about how you call us over powererd when melee does a majority of the damage in a party.

In the sky whats the big deal? you arn't bishing at the BLM's saying they can't come. i think a lot of them would be more then happy the step down ^^, sick of being abused leaders getting pissed if they dont show up or arn't on time!

Are you not getting the go cause they want more blms? if so get a new sky/hnm shell cause your's is just wrong! mine feeds it evenly and they dont disgrace a job out just cause Oh you can't do enough damage the win fast enough? NO, i think its balenced just fine, maybe its outa control in other shells and i can't see it cause my LS does things a lil more proper and gets EVERYONE involved!

as i said at the end of the last 2 and ill say it again, maybe you'll actually read it. If/When then blm nerf happens I will still play my blm job just like i play rdm, whm, and thf! I will adjust and still bring everything i can to the table. what i'm saying is that its not fair the be judged for throwing out big numbers about as often as melee do there big number weaponskills

Is my grammar skills good enough? cause i dont know how the make it any easier the read >.<

 

[Rinoah]

Re: It's NOT ABOUT THE MONEY

Gil is gil, yeah i work for it and it takes a lot of time the get, but i'm talking about how you call us over powererd when melee does a majority of the damage in a party.

In the sky whats the big deal? you arn't bishing at the BLM's saying they can't come. i think a lot of them would be more then happy the step down ^^, sick of being abused leaders getting pissed if they dont show up or arn't on time!

Are you not getting the go cause they want more blms? if so get a new sky/hnm shell cause your's is just wrong! mine feeds it evenly and they dont disgrace a job out just cause Oh you can't do enough damage the win fast enough? NO, i think its balenced just fine, maybe its outa control in other shells and i can't see it cause my LS does things a lil more proper and gets EVERYONE involved!

as i said at the end of the last 2 and ill say it again, maybe you'll actually read it. If/When then blm nerf happens I will still play my blm job just like i play rdm, whm, and thf! I will adjust and still bring everything i can to the table. what i'm saying is that its not fair the be judged for throwing out big numbers about as often as melee do there big number weaponskills

Is my grammar skills good enough? cause i dont know how the make it any easier the read >.<

In the stantard party though there are 2 melee and one BLM (if you ignore the tank and have a refresher and a healer). So if you are coming close to the meleers dmg then yes you are overpowered.

 

[Peregrine]

Your status only matters in the society that values it, you're working in a society based around a game called final fantasy XI.

Which is what makes the typical forum-posting FFXI-whoring 22 year-old dead-end do-nothing no-talent know-nothing gil-grubbing internet-armor-flaunting loser so unbelievably amusing to me. You don't think THIS is real life? I'm sorry, everything is real life. You'd rather have a scorpion harness than a MD. That's what you respect. You respect other do-nothings who can't win anywhere but online. And what's worse, and here's my main problem with you "overachieving" forum-posters:

You DO NOT respect people who do not have the time to sit around all day and get their FFXI on like you do. You'd rather associate with some mouthbreathers like Masterorion or Raivyn who are borderline specialsauce challenged...you'd take them over someone with less simply because even retards, given enough time, can become respected in this game with enough mindless farming.

You don't think this is real life...everything is real life kiddos. Like I said before, I am the imbalanced black mage in real life, and you are the broken meleer. You have a NQ blue cote in that head of yours. You didn't farm it, so that's all you have. You didn't train it, so it's wasted talent. I have a Kirin's Osode. I farmed for it. And here's the thing: I don't hold that against people in the real world. It's perfectly fine by me. I talk with an 8th grade vocabulary to you, and I gladly do it because I'm interested in you when you come see me. I'll still treat you like a human being, because unlike you, the online world and the game world are no different. I will talk to daveman because, while daveman is young and carefree and untapped and unburdened...he's not a moron with a keyboard quick to dismiss someone like me who doesn't play high hours. I'm not some loser with only 30 million gil to my name to him. The minute you define me by my gear, though, is the minute I point out you're a nobody in real life, going nowhere, doing nothing a monkey couldn't be trained to do. I have better things to do than to cater to the low standards of the MMORPG population. You all are pathetic. The only reason games like this are worth playing is the people who log in for other reasons than to get their internet armor on. The rest of you aren't fit to speak to me online.

I put College of Medicine in my sig as an acid test to identify idiots who think a keyboard is all they need to swing their dicks at me--who would be so quick and so foolish as to even dare make a comment that I am of limited intelligence. Says who? A starbucks employee? When you go up against me, regardless of what you think as you sit there as a 20 year-old loser in your basement, the fact is that I am in a position that none of you are in. I am at a level of intellect that none of you all care to step to in real life. So what on EARTH makes you think you can step to me on an internet forum? OH but give you a keyboard, and you're all over that challenge, but your dumb asses would have failed ten times over if you tried to be me in real life. Sorry, it's not that easy to best me. You can't wave a wand and make a geek MMORPG player equal to me. I play dozens of you at a time like a harp, and you go where I tell you to go every single time, then BEG for more. Why do I do it? You all are just that insignificant. Maybe if I cared what you losers thought of my character when I log on I'd refrain, but we're way past that. Like I said, most of you don't deserve to speak to me online, so what does it mean to me that you don't like me? Boohoo. Hypocrites who hate real-world braggers but brag about fake-world things don't LIKE me. As if you mattered to anyone in either world. They're the same world. The real world. I own the real world, kids. You own internet armor and a keyboard.

I put College of Medicine in my sig to let you losers know that I have better things to do than to farm 4 hours a day to buy some insignificantly better internet armor. I put College of Medicine in my sig because I used to think D1 athletics defined me, but I have NEVER seen a title so define someone as the medical field. You go ahead and define yourself by some stupid picture of your fake character in fake armor you don't even FAKELY have.

Even in the game I define myself this way. Internet armor...lol. Maybe if you idiots were mute, internet armor would be a good standard to judge by, but you unfortunately have the right to open your mouths. They should have never gave you losers keyboards. THEN your armor would be worth something to me. Until then, most of the people in this thread aren't worth my time in the game. Your armor means nothing to me, and I can't stand the words that come out of your mouths. So I surround myself with people whose words I can stand, independent of equipment and online merit. This is the real world, losers, whether you like it or not. I don't care what you can do at Fafnir surrounded by a pack of like-minded internet whores who value what you do--being nobodies in real life so you can be somebodies online. Compensate much, kids?

And my 15 minute study break is up. Ta-ta for now. I want 25 by the time tomorrow rolls around. Let's see, what's up for tonight...toxoplasma gondii reactivation in AIDs patients. Good times.

 

[reddogneo]

Well I personaly think that blm are the biggest DD in this game too. Im a nerfed rng too but i still like it and i see SE nerfing blm at some point in the future. There are very few pt set ups i been a part in that works really well without a blm. but most pt require a blm or SCin is worthless really

 

[Passions]

lmao

lmao HE'S BACK !!

Quick {Run Away!} and {Cover} before he tries stabing you with a Needle the make you listen to him AHH!!

 

[Bajaratt]

So basically you put that in your sig because you don't have anything worth bragging about in a game?

Again you're flat out assuming that no one but you actually has a real life(or not much of one if they do), so I'm going to ask again, where is your proof? Please point out to me how someone who plays this game cannot have a real life, or cannot be of above average intelligence, cannot have a decent job, or cannot be respectable in any way. You stupidly assume that you're so much smarter than everyone else, but you still can't prove that in any way, so you just assume that you are.

I also have better things to do than farm all the time, but I don't need to put those in my sig in a childish way to validate my existence. You're wearing your job of a student like it's something really special, when there are millions of other students, just like you. But then, you probably can't stand there being people equal or better than you, so you just deride them blindly.

You're certainly one of the most elitist people I've ever heard of, and the worst part of it is that you have zero reason to be. You're likely not any smarter than a lot of the people that play this game. The most you could ever proport is that you're more educated in medicine than everyone else, which doesn't mean you're any smarter than anyone else.

If we're all so "beneath you," why don't you just quit the game so you have to stop dealing with us? Oh wait, that would remove all of that self-instilled sense of false superiority that you love to swing around. I'm sure you'll say something like you have fun dealing with people you think are beneath you, but that's only reinforcing your superiority complex.

 

[Osse]

Regardless of what we say here, an adjustment to BLM is coming. None of us caused it to happen, the game designers just plain f'ed up--or so they feel. None of us has any input into the forthcoming changes.

However, if they are smart, the developers will reduce general nuking damage and increase MB damage. A few more DoT spells that stack would be fair, we have enough as is but not if instant damage output is drastically reduced. These changes would increase dependence on melee for a good SC and good tanking, but not gut the job. Bring on any "nerf," if there is a way to do the job effectively, I'll find it.

That being said, I'd disagree that BLM is enormously overpowered. You have to look at the overall scope of the job and it's limitations. Allow me to ruminate:

In a balanced party with well equipped and skilled members, melee about equal the damage output of the BLM. I'll use my static as an example, because frankly I've been with them from PLD 8-41 then BLM 41-72. PLD, DRK, MNK, BLM (/wave), RDM, WHM is the set up. We can do a Darkness chain every single mob if desired, but need Light for some mobs. The problem with doing a Light SC in this group is that it is dependent on SC escalation with the PLD participating. Red Lotus Blade>>Howling Fist (Fusion)>>Spinning Slash (Light) does the trick. The other problem is that the WS's + SC flat out does about 70% of a high VT to low IT mob's HP in damage (if you are smart and fighting the right toughness of mobs, that is). So if you SC on the mob you got TP from, it's overkill and the damage is wasted; if you wait until the next mob to SC + MB, then the mob dies instantly and you have about 0% TP for the next mob.

We chose the latter event, and SC on Chains #1, 3 and 5. The solution to mobs on Chains #0, 2 and 4 is to nuke them down. On Chain #0, I rely on lots of DoT because time isn't an issue and DoT is generally very MP effecient. On Chain #4 I go ape-shit to keep the chain going. We take down Chain #4 in about 30-40 seconds and I use about 3-4 big nukes with minimal DoT. Despite that, I still only do about 70% to maybe 75% of the damage to the mob on Chain #4. On mobs that we SC I do less than 25% of the damage. Over the course of the xp chain, the melee outdamage me, combined albeit, but outdamage none-the-less.

Furthermore, this isn't even an ideal melee set-up, it's just a bunch of friends who chose jobs for fun, not to milk the most xp. Additionally, this isn't even possible without party support (constant Refresh, PLD hate control, etc). Instant damage IS a BLM's job.

Not to mention, when I was the group's PLD, from levels 30-40ish we had a thf/nin who was the bomb. He did about 52% of the total party damage every xp session, outdamaging the then current blm and other Melee combined.

BTW, these are (mostly) parsed results, not someone's opinion.

BLM solo? This post is running long as it is, but if you think that BLM is a good soloer except against very specific mobs, then you need an ANA (Above Nose Amputation). We can blow away EP and Too Weak with the best of them... then rest for 5 mins after every mob. God help you if a sleep is resisted or you get surprised without blink and stoneskin up.

In short, ignore the big MB numbers that distract even the blm's and look at the entire picture. What people bitch about is 6-18 BLM's in a party or a manaburn party. Look again, "in a party". There is nothing one of these gimic parties can do in 2 mins that a balanced party can't do in 5 minutes, and with greater safety. Plus, there are many things a balanced party can do that a gimic party can't attempt.

 

[Pompidou]

Peregrine's background shouldn't be argued here. It's a red herring, and it has nothing to do with the argument for or against a black mage nerf. For the sake of sanity, everyone should concede that Peregrine is indeed a doctor to be. That's definitely a fact worthy of praise. You're going to be a doctor, Peregrine, and maybe you'll accomplish great things. I hope you do. If you save lives, everyone wins. But save that for another thread. You can't win one argument by distracting us with another.

This is a thread about whether or not black mage is overpowered and needs a nerf; about the type of person who plays black mage, and whether or not they're responsible for ruining the game. There was a good conversation going on, and neither side was completely without merit. If you abandon your cause, Peregrine, people will assume you've accepted defeat.

I don't think you come here for 24 pages worth of conversation just to speculate on the sort of real life situations behind each player. I myself, am a loser. You needn't speculate. I'm a loser until I turn my medieval history degree into a career. But whether you're a doctor and I'm a historian won't win any kudos here. Stick to the black mage argument. It's the only thing that matters here.

 

[Peregrine]

Oh I'm not assuming. You all are so typical. You log on and BOOM suddenly Einstein wasn't so bright compared to you. So what are you in real life that I'm assuming incorrectly? No, I have you all pegged correctly. You're MMORPG players with MMORPG faces and MMORPG lives.

What are you besides an internet poster? Sorry kid, that doesn't cut it. You're not intelligent. I post three levels above you, and you don't even know it. Leave it up to someone as dumb as you to point out that rangers aren't meleers when I make a comment about excluding rangers in a discussion about jobs that stand out from 40-60. You're inadequate. I'm not assuming anything, you're simply below me.

There is NO student like me on this forum. None of you could hold a candle to me. Point me out one. 4.0 GPA in college. 33 on the ACT 1460 on the SAT. 3.82 GPA first year medical school. Academic all-american in the 400 meter hurdles. SEC academic all-american. What do you have to make me assume incorrectly that you are to be taken seriously? When you disagree with me, kiddo, on an intellectual level, what do you really have? Nothing. You have a keyboard.

I am elitist. You MMORPG losers who can't get it up anywhere but online make me laugh. You're my jesters. Dance for me. I AM smarter than you. I work harder than you too. So where are you left? Online lol. You're lazy, and the only place lazy people succeed is online, where all it takes to get ahead is all the time in the world provided that you're the nobody with all the time in the world.

Who has a false sense of superiority, 2-bit? Me? I'm at the medical center right now reviewing patient interviews my classmates have submitted for review. Or you...a white mage on the internet who thinks they're automatically as smart as me at the very least because...well heck I don't know why.

I attack you losers because you make me sick. Every last one of you forum-achieving internet elitists who need the internet to be better than everyone else. I don't play the game for idiots like you all, and idiots like you all aren't the majority of the game. You're pushed into some endgame closet with all the other MMOWhores doing your own online rat race. You have nothing to do with me online, and I wouldn't have it any other way. Your priorities are backwards. It's people like you that give MMORPG a bad name. Flaunting useless internet armor as the number one value of your pathetic online lives. You're too lazy and untalented to win anywhere else, so this is the only standard you have left--MMORPG armor collecting.

I wear my student status as a badge? Lol you wear a Noble's Tunic. How sad ARE you?

 

[Passions]

internet no bodies

how can you call us internet mmorpg nerds when you play it, thats kind of contradicting yourself :/ seriously this was back on topic till you showd up. please fill in your white box with reason's pertaining to the topic or STFU

play the game like it, if you dont go back the studying DR wanabe. i'm sure you have a lot more studing that needs the be done, if you wana graduate HAHA and if its that easy the ride through i'm glad i dont live where you do, wouldn't want a ass hat dumb ass dr touching my body

 

[Osse]

Peregrine:

You don't think this is real life...everything is real life kiddos. Like I said before, I am the imbalanced black mage in real life, and you are the broken meleer. You have a NQ blue cote in that head of yours. You didn't farm it, so that's all you have. You didn't train it, so it's wasted talent. I have a Kirin's Osode.

Again, you assume that you are top dog and that no one else has RL commitments that come first--yet still continue to enjoy and be good at this GAME. I personally know of lawyers and law students, engineers and programmers (no shock on that one I'll admit) and yes actual doctors that play this game on this very server and also post on these boards.

There are two big differences between you and them. First, many of them have actually EARNED the position which you falsely claim. I'm refering how you claim income, portfolios and even patient visits in the present tense. You are still a student and have many years of work before you gain that title, assuming you aren't part of that 2-5% attrition rate in Med School. Second, as you correctly pointed out, you are the only one claiming those credentials. JD, DO, DPM and MD do not appear in their sigs because they value their privacy and do not even want to appear to be lording it over others.

You think you are the only one? You think you are "teh ub3r"? You aren't even the equal of some others here. In 2-3 years, as a resident, you will be worthy to fetch the doc's morning coffee. You don't know them? They don't hang out with you? If you are curious as to why, just look at your own rants.

BTW, your last post was a combo of #3 and #4. So here's a #3 right back at you.