BLM's and snow rings

[Pompidou]

Gimp is not having at least +4 int rings be they diamond or the hq of the prior tier. Snow rings are great, but in terms of what you get vs what you pay, they can wait. When I get HQ elemental staves, then I'll start HQing the trivial stuff like 1 extra int pieces. I'll have a Tamas ring shortly anyway. My COP static just beat ouryu a couple weeks ago. Slowly and steadily we're progressing through CoP.

 

[Khajit]

I'm not a blm so I cant speak too much on this but its probably a cost per int vs other peices of gear.
My thief aint getting those dex+5 rings for a while simply because +2 int at the cost of over 2-3 mil isnt worth it compared to lets say.. cursed gear.
Some peoples blm aint getting snow rings because theres probably a better way to spend that money.
Add in the many people have multiple 75 jobs factor and chucking money away on one job when the benefits of that gil to anther job happen to be 10X greater and you got some decent reasons to not buy snow rings before other stuff.

 

[Sanoske]

I have 2 Snow Rings, wouldnt mind a Sorc Ring... but I have other plans for my gil atm. I bought them when they were 2.5M a piece... so not much excuse for BLMs now not to have em, since they dipped BELOW 1M last time I checked. *dies a little on the inside*

I still have yet to be outnuked in a Manaburn party, even by those 1-2 lvls higher than me. Need to finish my Yigit feet, and maybe save up for a Ring. MAB +36... hell yea.

 

[Bedwarmer]

Add in the many people have multiple 75 jobs factor and chucking money away on one job when the benefits of that gil to anther job happen to be 10X greater and you got some decent reasons to not buy snow rings before other stuff.

Yet these people contine to shouw up at pudding camp and wasting my time in a merit party.

I'm gonna rant a bit now. Not just about Snow Rings, but about the bulk of fellow BLM's I've had the misfortune of burning/duo'ing with. Most of them are geared like shit. They spend all their time in the group bragging about how badass their LS is, and how they took down a Wyrm and own Sky, and they say it with Igquira mittens on. Pathetic.

I think I've probabally burned with well over 150 different BLM's and only about 5 of them haven't wasted my time. I've seen Cunnuing Earrings, all-out MP sets (astral + ether + Black Coathardie + some other shit items) I've even some roll with a Solid Wand or Scythe.

The newest trend is they all show up to merit Burst II. Burst II is a good spell, but it needs a very solid foundation in order to be effective. When I'm burning with a group of 5 other BLM's who all have Burst II, and my Thunder IV is hitting for 1609 while their Burst II a paltry 1500+, someone needs to rethink their meriting priorities in a hurry. What's the problem with this you ask? The main issue is I'm getting assfucked by the monsters because my shit is a little stronger, meanwhile the people who should be stunning/binding to save me are aspiring to the tune of a resist because they don't know what their meriting.

Speaking of Aspiring, I can't count the number of BLM who roll out of town with their AF in storage. Ok, real quick, if you're a BLM, and you're outside the city walls without you're AF, you are simply 100% wrong. You're not gonna sleep shit, bind shit, gravity shit, or aspir shit without it.

I don't expect everyone in a merit group to have Tamas and Sorcerer's, but I do expect, at a minimum, they have some fuckin Snow's. "One or two INT dosen't matter," ok, quit BLM right now and take up WAR or BRD. Every last little bit of anything counts when you have 6 papaer doll's trying to kill a goddam gigantic Troll. We don't have Utsusemi: Ni to bitch our way through the tough minutes where somebody fucks up. BLM these days is a risk/reward situation. I really don't think 2 rings totaling 2.6M is too much to ask.

 

[Blackchaoshero]

are we still ont his topic? seriously? i have dual snow rings, a sorc ring, pretty fucking decent merits, 3 body armors 3 leg pieces 3 hands 4 hats all 8 staves (7 HQ, fuck light) hopefully gonna have 2 pairs of boots soon, moldavite/abyssal, penitents and ALL that shiz.. know what? i don't give a flying fuck whatsoever about what you come to a manaburn in as long as you function and don't fuck up a lot.

Bedwarmer mentioned Igqira hands. and people without AF. these people i shoot on sight. If you fit this category i want you to go die in a hole where i'll never have to see your corpse. you have 2 options. AF hands if you're having resist issues on the things your fighting... or Zmitts. And if you don't have Zmitts, don't waste ANYONE's time with Igqira... they parse out below Mitts AND AF in every situation i've encountered.

I can understand Int 4 rings when you're just hitting 75. i can see them when you're SAVING for snows. The people who never bother getting snows better be mainjobbing something else.

Skill is all well and good. everyone says Skill > all. i don't care how good you are, you ARE NOT GONNA COMPARE without decent gear, skill or not.

skill = merits = gear. you need all 3. The first can be learned, the second can be earned, the third is mostly bought. BLM gear is so cheap now you're a crook NOT to buy snow rings.... WESKIT IS 200k. If you can't spring gil for snow rings without that as a 5 mil expense most blms had to go around....

 

[Firestreak]

I think she's talking about AF for Dark Magic purposes and Enfeebling purposes.

I swap in Nashira Manteel for Aspir/Drain/Stun(when I remember it). The dark magic is almost negligable but the haste is nice for recast.

As for enfeebling, forget it.

If gear doesn't have a certain best for a certain action I don't bother with manual swaps. For example, ugga pendant is purely a manual swap because your macros can't be aware of your MP levels. So for my neck I wear a piece that's best all the time. With capped elemental merits, pendant actually wins out long run cause so little else is useful.(I'm sure prudence torque would win out but I never got one.)

As for sorceror's ring... maybe when I get a few more HP merits I'll do it. But I can longterm only trust myself to keep up one manual gearswap, and at the moment it's AF2 legs vs mahatma legs. If use sorc ring I'd probably have to just store AF2 legs as I'm not gonna swap in rings and legs seperately and manually during the course of each nuke.

 

[neophytal]

cheap blms dont wear snow rings (unless they are omni. rings as odon said!) k thats all.

 

[Khajit]

Yet these people contine to shouw up at pudding camp and wasting my time in a merit party.

I'm gonna rant a bit now. Not just about Snow Rings, but about the bulk of fellow BLM's I've had the misfortune of burning/duo'ing with. Most of them are geared like shit. They spend all their time in the group bragging about how badass their LS is, and how they took down a Wyrm and own Sky, and they say it with Igquira mittens on. Pathetic.

OK when you start bragging about Owning sky and don't Have zenith mitts yeah you deserve to be shot. the drop rate on A.hands isn't nearly as low as people make it out to be and to top it off genbu is easy to get ton's of pops for.

I think I've probabally burned with well over 150 different BLM's and only about 5 of them haven't wasted my time. I've seen Cunnuing Earrings, all-out MP sets (astral + ether + Black Coathardie + some other shit items) I've even some roll with a Solid Wand or Scythe.

K At that point they need to be shot. That shit is pathetic but I'm pretty sure snow rings arent the problem. It's how crappy ALL thier gear is.
When I see a person in crappy gear on thf I feel the same way.
Once ran into a lv 60 blm seeking without any af on.. Sorry I cant give you the name but I hadn't created my list of idiots to aviod partying with until the week after.

The newest trend is they all show up to merit Burst II. Burst II is a good spell, but it needs a very solid foundation in order to be effective. When I'm burning with a group of 5 other BLM's who all have Burst II, and my Thunder IV is hitting for 1609 while their Burst II a paltry 1500+, someone needs to rethink their meriting priorities in a hurry. What's the problem with this you ask? The main issue is I'm getting assfucked by the monsters because my shit is a little stronger, meanwhile the people who should be stunning/binding to save me are aspiring to the tune of a resist because they don't know what their meriting.

Sounds like theyre just dumbfucks with bad gear yet again. Doesn't have much do do with snow rings when its thier intelligence and lack of int/mab gear in other places. the fact that if they have other 75 jobs that can benefit more from that 2.6 mil isnt an excuse not to merit on the other lv 75 jobs the merits that will help out BLM like thunder potency ect ect

Speaking of Aspiring, I can't count the number of BLM who roll out of town with their AF in storage. Ok, real quick, if you're a BLM, and you're outside the city walls without you're AF, you are simply 100% wrong. You're not gonna sleep shit, bind shit, gravity shit, or aspir shit without it.

Dumbfucks who dont bother to get good gear # 4. snow rings arent part of af. You're Complaining about shitty gear other than the snow rings.

I don't expect everyone in a merit group to have Tamas and Sorcerer's, but I do expect, at a minimum, they have some fuckin Snow's. "One or two INT dosen't matter," ok, quit BLM right now and take up WAR or BRD. Every last little bit of anything counts when you have 6 papaer doll's trying to kill a goddam gigantic Troll. We don't have Utsusemi: Ni to bitch our way through the tough minutes where somebody fucks up. BLM these days is a risk/reward situation. I really don't think 2 rings totaling 2.6M is too much to ask.

If you can get one or 2 more int or mab per gil in a different slot to boost performance more then yes holdoff on snows. 1-2 more int doesnt matter hugely in the grand sceme of things with over all gear although since it is the job you're playing you SHOULD/MUST be working towards improving that and playing that job to the best of your ability. However what people fail to realize is that the little bosts to stats in each gear slot individually DO matter. Get the little bosts to stats here and there and eventually they add up to something HUGE. Ignoring slight boosts to int from each gear is like a DD ignoring tiny boosts to acc that add up vs an IT.one less int/mab/eleskill/enfeebling might not hurt you but 3/4/10+ less is just being gimped. Sounds to me like the BLM you party with are neglecting a whole lot more than snow rings

On a side note I do they they should have snow rings /work on them. In most engame ls there are tons of chances to make enough money and if you cant allocate a portion of that to improve a charact you enjoy playing then you fail. Same applies for all jobs.

 

[Bedwarmer]

Dumbfucks who dont bother to get good gear # 4. snow rings arent part of af. You're Complaining about shitty gear other than the snow rings.

Just to clear up my rant, yes I'm complaining about more than Snows, but it only pertains to people who are meriting BLM. To me, if you're meriting a job, you had better be damn sure it's geared above average.

 

[Blabj]

I look down on BLMs with Snow rings and no HQ staves. They're the real people who need to be shot.

People with A hands, and Errant slops. Yeah, you need to be shot too.

People who use Prism Capes, yet have Genie Tiaras or Manillas... Shot too please.

Theres some shit, that is better than snows. People need to realise that, and buy stuff like HQ Staves before they buy the extra 2 int (that you're paying out of the ass for.)

OK when you start bragging about Owning sky and don't Have zenith mitts yeah you deserve to be shot. the drop rate on A.hands isn't nearly as low as people make it out to be and to top it off genbu is easy to get ton's of pops for.

No, my LS hasn't had an A mitts drop yet. We've killed Genbu atleast 10+ times while I've been here. Sure getting the drops is easy, if you enjoy killing countless Pots for a water drop to kill Olla. Yes, thats fun!

 

[Khajit]

Completely understandable. lv 75 is a huge amount of people all competeing for a spot in a pt. If I had a choice between myself or some random dd and a ridill war with the gear to use it Hands down my ass would be left on the curb while the ridill war gets a pt.
My best suggestion is to write a list of those players who play well and a seperate list of idiots that make you wonder how they got lv 75.
Then when you have options you can just refer to the list of people to pt with and choose them first.

 

[Uzor]

I look down on BLMs with Snow rings and no HQ staves. They're the real people who need to be shot.

People with A hands, and Errant slops. Yeah, you need to be shot too.

People who use Prism Capes, yet have Genie Tiaras or Manillas... Shot too please.

Theres some shit, that is better than snows. People need to realise that, and buy stuff like HQ Staves before they buy the extra 2 int (that you're paying out of the ass for.)



No, my LS hasn't had an A mitts drop yet. We've killed Genbu atleast 10+ times while I've been here. Sure getting the drops is easy, if you enjoy killing countless Pots for a water drop to kill Olla. Yes, thats fun!

What if you're like me, and have A. hands, snow ring, prism cape, and H.Q staves? do I need to be shot? =(

Completely understandable. lv 75 is a huge amount of people all competeing for a spot in a pt. If I had a choice between myself or some random dd and a ridill war with the gear to use it Hands down my ass would be left on the curb while the ridill war gets a pt.
My best suggestion is to write a list of those players who play well and a seperate list of idiots that make you wonder how they got lv 75.
Then when you have options you can just refer to the list of people to pt with and choose them first.

I do that I have a list of competent RDMes, BRD's, WHMes etc. Although I have them in my head, I remember most everyone that I've partied that's been good.

 

[Sanoske]

What if you're like me, and have A. hands, snow ring, prism cape, and H.Q staves? do I need to be shot? =(

Yea, we need to be shot. You forgot Mahatma... that might take us off the get shot list.

And as for Tamas, when I finish CoP I'll most likely get a Rajas Ring... just more useful overall, I think. And I'll rock dual Snow in the meantime. But thats a story for another day.

 

[Hmkiroko]

Currently sporting:
Mahatma, Prism, Snow/Tamas, Jupiter, Aquilos, Austeres, Plutos, Zenith, AF+1 Hands and AF+1 Hat, Weskit, Errant Body, Rostrums, Penitent's, Phantom Tathlum, Abyssal (ugh), and Moldavite's Earring, Elemental Torque. AF Coat, Lappas, Tiara, and Enfeebling Torque macroed for enfeeble spells.

I hope I dont fall into the category of "being shot". I do however need to merit my ass off more (INT + Blizzard Mastery especially).

Has anyone examined the effectiveness of stacking the MATK from the Yigit set? The extra MATK is good, but I do not want to try it only to find my resist rate is lowered considerably. Anyone share their experiences?

 

[Bedwarmer]

I haven't seen the MAB from Yigit set on a nuke yet. I did duo with a JP guy who had the set for HMP, and it kicked some serious ass.

 

[Odon]

 

[Tavjon]

Usn HQ staff, phantom tath, af+1 hat, either torque or pendant, abyss, moldy, iqguira, zmitts, sorc ring(activated), tamas, prism, penitent's, mahatma pants, yigitz.

Sorc gear I use are zcrown, black cote, ether ring, zlegs and rostrums

Enfeeble gear plutos, genie tiara, af+1 body, igquira legs

 

[Kabrina]

BLM Rings

I wear Tamas and Snow rings but previous to COP completion I had 2 Snow rings.

 

[pakomen]

Yet these people contine to shouw up at pudding camp and wasting my time in a merit party.

I'm gonna rant a bit now. Not just about Snow Rings, but about the bulk of fellow BLM's I've had the misfortune of burning/duo'ing with. Most of them are geared like shit. They spend all their time in the group bragging about how badass their LS is, and how they took down a Wyrm and own Sky, and they say it with Igquira mittens on. Pathetic.

I think I've probabally burned with well over 150 different BLM's and only about 5 of them haven't wasted my time. I've seen Cunnuing Earrings, all-out MP sets (astral + ether + Black Coathardie + some other shit items) I've even some roll with a Solid Wand or Scythe.

The newest trend is they all show up to merit Burst II. Burst II is a good spell, but it needs a very solid foundation in order to be effective. When I'm burning with a group of 5 other BLM's who all have Burst II, and my Thunder IV is hitting for 1609 while their Burst II a paltry 1500+, someone needs to rethink their meriting priorities in a hurry. What's the problem with this you ask? The main issue is I'm getting assfucked by the monsters because my shit is a little stronger, meanwhile the people who should be stunning/binding to save me are aspiring to the tune of a resist because they don't know what their meriting.

Speaking of Aspiring, I can't count the number of BLM who roll out of town with their AF in storage. Ok, real quick, if you're a BLM, and you're outside the city walls without you're AF, you are simply 100% wrong. You're not gonna sleep shit, bind shit, gravity shit, or aspir shit without it.

I don't expect everyone in a merit group to have Tamas and Sorcerer's, but I do expect, at a minimum, they have some fuckin Snow's. "One or two INT dosen't matter," ok, quit BLM right now and take up WAR or BRD. Every last little bit of anything counts when you have 6 papaer doll's trying to kill a goddam gigantic Troll. We don't have Utsusemi: Ni to bitch our way through the tough minutes where somebody fucks up. BLM these days is a risk/reward situation. I really don't think 2 rings totaling 2.6M is too much to ask.

I agree with your big long rant aside from a few things.

1. If you thunder4 is doing more damage than their burst2's, they need to be spending more time out in the field meriting potency, not in the mines or whatever faming their asses off for 2 more int.

and

2. If you thunder4 is doing more damage than their burst2's, they need to be spending more time out in the field meriting potency, not in the mines or whatever faming their asses off for 2 more int.

Snow rings can wait. Merits are everything. HQ rings can wait. HQ staves first. Sea second. Obis's third. Sorcerer's tonban 4th, Sorcerer's ring when you have the time to enslave yourself to a sky/wyrm ls. Feel free to mix and match that order, but those are the defining pieces of gear for blm. Ig.Weskit doesn't count since SE felt the need to make it a piece of shit common piece of gear that any blm and their inbred brother can afford.

 

[Uzor]

I agree with your big long rant aside from a few things.

1. If you thunder4 is doing more damage than their burst2's, they need to be spending more time out in the field meriting potency, not in the mines or whatever faming their asses off for 2 more int.

and

2. If you thunder4 is doing more damage than their burst2's, they need to be spending more time out in the field meriting potency, not in the mines or whatever faming their asses off for 2 more int.

Snow rings can wait. Merits are everything. HQ rings can wait. HQ staves first. Sea second. Obis's third. Sorcerer's tonban 4th, Sorcerer's ring when you have the time to enslave yourself to a sky/wyrm ls. Feel free to mix and match that order, but those are the defining pieces of gear for blm. Ig.Weskit doesn't count since SE felt the need to make it a piece of shit common piece of gear that any blm and their inbred brother can afford.

I lost 9 mil on my weskit ~.~ I hate SE =(