Blood of Legends Fucking pricks

[Ratixis]

I'm sorry, I'd just like to add to something here.

Due to the absolute mass of flames we have been recieving lately, and the amount of trouble that has happened WYS has actually made something clear to all BoL's.

We will, from now on, get kicked.

I don't see how you can blame the entire LS. Many people in this game know me as a well-meaning, honest, hardworking (albeit poor) player. I'm in the BoL linkshell. My RL friend, Galkalegend is in the LS. The people who I talk to everyday and have become friends with are in this LS. We have goals and dreams for this game, which anyone who has that red linkpearl next to their name will know.

We do (even though Moch may not agree entirely on this) know that to many, many people this is more than "just a game". And we act accordingly.

As an example of this, a quick example is of wen Maseki claimed Serket on Wednesday. There were 12 BoL Special Forces members down there camping him (as you do) but he got claim. So we watched, healed our own LS, and cleared ~6 possible bat aggros, which helped them. We could have done as the gilsellers did and spam a "stealing job ability" to steal Serket. But did we? no. Why? Because most of the LS has an awful lot of respect for their fellow players.

Blood of Legends as a whole were not down there camping Mysticmaker Profblix (imagine 36 odd people down there camping him? {death} {do you want it?} ), just a couple of members. It has seem to become almost common now that if a BoL member is involved, the whole LS has to be hurt.

To be fair, this is bringing down a lot of people's thoughts on BoL as a whole. We are not recruiting either atm due to our recent additions and the trouble that has been caused to an extent.

Did you notice...when Maseki MPK'ed our LS while killing Serket, we did not blame Notorious Hunters? We blamed Maseki. It was entirely his fault, and so we made it clear. Whether he likes or not is a different matter.

Please, will you all stop laying on the flames to our linkshell? we are all getting sick and tired of it.

To be fair though...it won't bring the LS down no matter how much you flame us on here. We do our best to help everyone on the inside, as well as helping people on the outside. A few slips by certain individuals has nothing to do with the rest of us, yet we feel the reprocussions.

*sigh* of course, the very limited amount of people that reply to my thread and take it on board will not affect the majority. I just hope that some of you will listen...and take it on board. If not, we may end up with LS vs LS battles...and do any of us want "Oh, you can't come because you belong to xxx linkshell" when looking to EXP, or to do SMN avatar battles, or Rank missions?

No. Of course we don't.

But the way things are going, BoL is creating more emnity with Chainspell Flash (I know, it doesn't happen. Oh, but if it did...whoa.)

Thanks for reading... I hope this makes a difference, even if only to just one uninfluential person.

 

[Eladamiri]

I'm sorry, I'd just like to add to something here.

Due to the absolute mass of flames we have been recieving lately, and the amount of trouble that has happened WYS has actually made something clear to all BoL's.

We will, from now on, get kicked.

I don't see how you can blame the entire LS. Many people in this game know me as a well-meaning, honest, hardworking (albeit poor) player. I'm in the BoL linkshell. My RL friend, Galkalegend is in the LS. The people who I talk to everyday and have become friends with are in this LS. We have goals and dreams for this game, which anyone who has that red linkpearl next to their name will know.

We do (even though Moch may not agree entirely on this) know that to many, many people this is more than "just a game". And we act accordingly.

As an example of this, a quick example is of wen Maseki claimed Serket on Wednesday. There were 12 BoL Special Forces members down there camping him (as you do) but he got claim. So we watched, healed our own LS, and cleared ~6 possible bat aggros, which helped them. We could have done as the gilsellers did and spam a "stealing job ability" to steal Serket. But did we? no. Why? Because most of the LS has an awful lot of respect for their fellow players.

Blood of Legends as a whole were not down there camping Mysticmaker Profblix (imagine 36 odd people down there camping him? {death} {do you want it?} ), just a couple of members. It has seem to become almost common now that if a BoL member is involved, the whole LS has to be hurt.

To be fair, this is bringing down a lot of people's thoughts on BoL as a whole. We are not recruiting either atm due to our recent additions and the trouble that has been caused to an extent.

Did you notice...when Maseki MPK'ed our LS while killing Serket, we did not blame Notorious Hunters? We blamed Maseki. It was entirely his fault, and so we made it clear. Whether he likes or not is a different matter.

Please, will you all stop laying on the flames to our linkshell? we are all getting sick and tired of it.

To be fair though...it won't bring the LS down no matter how much you flame us on here. We do our best to help everyone on the inside, as well as helping people on the outside. A few slips by certain individuals has nothing to do with the rest of us, yet we feel the reprocussions.

*sigh* of course, the very limited amount of people that reply to my thread and take it on board will not affect the majority. I just hope that some of you will listen...and take it on board. If not, we may end up with LS vs LS battles...and do any of us want "Oh, you can't come because you belong to xxx linkshell" when looking to EXP, or to do SMN avatar battles, or Rank missions?

No. Of course we don't.

But the way things are going, BoL is creating more emnity with Chainspell Flash (I know, it doesn't happen. Oh, but if it did...whoa.)

Thanks for reading... I hope this makes a difference, even if only to just one uninfluential person.

Well said, I cant agree with this anymore.

 

[Kat]

Have to agree, very nicely said Ratixis. There are quite a few of you in there I like and respect, Galkalegend bein' one of them.

Now, back to OCC for a tad 8) .

 

[Firestreak]

Sabs wrote:
This is the best line I've read on the flameboard in a long time. You people seem to think you can treat others like crap just because this is a video game, when in reality these are real people on the other end controlling those sprites. I treat people in this game the same way I'd treat someone I met on the streets.


Go read these 6 pages, and truthfully tell me that they aren't treating us the same way as we supposedly treated them.

I will say again, if you people are going to say "you treated us badly, so we will simply do the same to you" then your hypocrits, cause you've spent 6pages bullshitting.

Neche.

I'd just like to point out, I admit to not reading all 6 pages of the flame, although I read some of it. I'm just pointing out that the specific statement I was arguing against was 100% wrong, having nothing to do with guilt or blame about this struggle. It's quite annoying trying to make an argument against someone and them throwing out the "It's just a game." argument. Yes it's a game, but we are dealing with other people. That is all. I am perhaps a bit more sentitive to this after getting MPKed by Konartist and told I am immature for posting about it because "It's just a game." Seriously, you have to get out of the mindset that the other people you are dealing with are no different than 1 player RPG NPCs. If you screw around with someone they WILL get pissed off. That's all. It's about the argument being made not the incident specifically.

 

[Davio]

I'm not even gonna comment further on this thread except to say you better be damn glad BoL will have you Yoshindor, cuz no one else will.

This is where you are wrong I have almost a dozen pearls. To various LS's. Just because you don't like me doesn't mean people who actually know me and actually know what their talking about don't.

Hmmmm... on the Maseki MPK thread it clearly states Kasuke saying LS hopping is not tolerated, thus why BoL kicked Odon no?

Am i misunderstanding? or no?

So one of the reasons BoL kicked Odon was because he had NH also?

Why isnt Yosh kicked about the bold it clearly states he has almost a dozen pearls...

 

[Tymon]

Regarding the sky incident, I, Kasuke, WYS, and a few others had just gotten through sky, having done ZM8-13 that day, and I was in I believe Ru'Avitau Shrine, when they told me that they agro'd the Groundskeepers on the blue dots, which I learned beforehand DO AGRO. They have true sight, unlike all the others that agro solely to magic. The people outside in Ru'Aun didn't know this, and by the time I was able to notify them of this it was too late. Someone agro'd one, first impulse is to either zone into the shrine, which is hard because of the door that blocks the zone, or to the Hall, which other than using many many teleporters, is a 1 way passage.

To summarize, they agro'd mobs by accident, thought to zone, did not realize that the zone was blocked, did not know that a group was incoming, died, that group arrived, agro'd them thinking that they were regular Groundskeepers, died, obviously got mad as I heard 1 deleveled to 74.

Either way, this was not MPK.

 

[Sabia]

This is the best line I've read on the flameboard in a long time. You people seem to think you can treat others like crap just because this is a video game, when in reality these are real people on the other end controlling those sprites. I treat people in this game the same way I'd treat someone I met on the streets.

Go read these 6 pages, and truthfully tell me that they aren't treating us the same way as we supposedly treated them.

I will say again, if you people are going to say "you treated us badly, so we will simply do the same to you" then your hypocrits, cause you've spent 6pages bullshitting.

Neche.

And does this above statement make treating others like shit any better? NO! I was making a point that these are real people on the other ends of these sprites, if someone came up and stole your car would you steal thiers to get them back? Probably not....so just beause someone treats you like crap doesn't mean it's right to treat them the same.

Morals {Do you have it?}

 

[Krisy]

I know many of the boL members, a lot of them are good people. The only reason you guys seem so bad right now is that your ls leader WYS has come here posting saying "I don't give a fuck". With your leader saying that it just shows a bad front (which i hope isn't true). I think that really sparked the argument more than it already was.

WYS shoulda said, It was a mistake and i will notify the ls of nms and their policy. With that, BoL would be cleared and people would have been a lot happier. WYS you stil have a chance by now saying what your ls stance on MPK/stealing is and what the consequences will be for it.

Also, with the other recent accident from BoL, people have been curious of if you are playing fairly, so that may have added to the animosity in this post.

With that being said, for me you guys are cleared, and i hope others can agree that the ls in a whole isn't stealing/mpk'ing assholes.

 

[Eladamiri]

I'm not even gonna comment further on this thread except to say you better be damn glad BoL will have you Yoshindor, cuz no one else will.

This is where you are wrong I have almost a dozen pearls. To various LS's. Just because you don't like me doesn't mean people who actually know me and actually know what their talking about don't.

Hmmmm... on the Maseki MPK thread it clearly states Kasuke saying LS hopping is not tolerated, thus why BoL kicked Odon no?

Am i misunderstanding? or no?

So one of the reasons BoL kicked Odon was because he had NH also?

Why isnt Yosh kicked about the bold it clearly states he has almost a dozen pearls...

davio ; ;

please read the post.. dont make fireblade members out to be retards j/k

anywho, reason Odon got kicked was because he was hoping in between
2 HNM LS'S. That is a very big nono, especially when u leak times to the other one.. following me?

all yoshindor was saying is that he has a a dozen normal linkshells, which no one from BoL said is against the rules. THEY have onyl stated that hoping inbetween HNM shell is against the rules

so there ya go, No, yoshindor shoudlnt be kicked for LS hoping because hes not hopping in between HNM shell

btw, im pretty sure hes almost 100% commited to BoL...

 

[Yoshindor]

I'm not even gonna comment further on this thread except to say you better be damn glad BoL will have you Yoshindor, cuz no one else will.

This is where you are wrong I have almost a dozen pearls. To various LS's. Just because you don't like me doesn't mean people who actually know me and actually know what their talking about don't.

Hmmmm... on the Maseki MPK thread it clearly states Kasuke saying LS hopping is not tolerated, thus why BoL kicked Odon no?

Am i misunderstanding? or no?

So one of the reasons BoL kicked Odon was because he had NH also?

Why isnt Yosh kicked about the bold it clearly states he has almost a dozen pearls...

davio ; ;

please read the post.. dont make fireblade members out to be retards j/k

anywho, reason Odon got kicked was because he was hoping in between
2 HNM LS'S. That is a very big nono, especially when u leak times to the other one.. following me?

all yoshindor was saying is that he has a a dozen normal linkshells, which no one from BoL said is against the rules. THEY have onyl stated that hoping inbetween HNM shell is against the rules

so there ya go, No, yoshindor shoudlnt be kicked for LS hoping because hes not hopping in between HNM shell

btw, im pretty sure hes almost 100% commited to BoL...

It's good to see Jazper picked a few good players who aren't biased and who aren't blinded by rage. Ask anyone in the shell, the only time I do not have BoL on is when I'm takeing a break from the shell for personal reasons or have, my families comunications shell on, because it's easier that yelling across halls :lol: to tell my wife she needs to refresh me, or my son to use sidewinder instead of peirceing arrow, and my daughter to not spam cure 3.
So anyway Davio I know you are bitter about many things, and don't like to loose arguments but your agenda is apperent, and if you would like a list of the perls I own I will provide such, the next time I'm in windy to check my storage.

 

[Firestreak]

Hmmmm... on the Maseki MPK thread it clearly states Kasuke saying LS hopping is not tolerated, thus why BoL kicked Odon no?

Am i misunderstanding? or no?

So one of the reasons BoL kicked Odon was because he had NH also?

Why isnt Yosh kicked about the bold it clearly states he has almost a dozen pearls...

Let's be fair here. He asked not stated. And then he asked if he was misunderstanding. Before you string someone up pay attention to their actual post more clearly. There's nothing wrong with asking a question, if he doesn't how is he supposed to know all the facts clearly? It's not like he went off stating how he knew your rules and how he was sure you were in violation. This is just stupid.

 

[Eladamiri]

Hmmmm... on the Maseki MPK thread it clearly states Kasuke saying LS hopping is not tolerated, thus why BoL kicked Odon no?

Am i misunderstanding? or no?

So one of the reasons BoL kicked Odon was because he had NH also?

Why isnt Yosh kicked about the bold it clearly states he has almost a dozen pearls...

Let's be fair here. He asked not stated. And then he asked if he was misunderstanding. Before you string someone up pay attention to their actual post more clearly. There's nothing wrong with asking a question, if he doesn't how is he supposed to know all the facts clearly? It's not like he went off stating how he knew your rules and how he was sure you were in violation. This is just stupid.

i know ur talking to yosh cuz i didnt string him up, but who cares man :/ The topic about LS hopin is dead and i gave davio an answer in a very nice way, LS memebr to LS member, friend to friend. Yosh was just adding on because davio was directing it to him, no more needs to be said, so please lets not start another useless flame. thnx

 

[Neche]

This is the best line I've read on the flameboard in a long time. You people seem to think you can treat others like crap just because this is a video game, when in reality these are real people on the other end controlling those sprites. I treat people in this game the same way I'd treat someone I met on the streets.

Go read these 6 pages, and truthfully tell me that they aren't treating us the same way as we supposedly treated them.

I will say again, if you people are going to say "you treated us badly, so we will simply do the same to you" then your hypocrits, cause you've spent 6pages bullshitting.
Neche.

And does this above statement make treating others like shit any better? NO! I was making a point that these are real people on the other ends of these sprites, if someone came up and stole your car would you steal thiers to get them back? Probably not....so just beause someone treats you like crap doesn't mean it's right to treat them the same.

Morals {Do you have it?}

As Ratixis said

Did you notice...when Maseki MPK'ed our LS while killing Serket, we did not blame Notorious Hunters? We blamed Maseki. It was entirely his fault, and so we made it clear. Whether he likes or not is a different matter.

We flamed him, not the linkshell.

There is our Morals.

Sab's you get what I'm saying. You proved it in your last post. You can't treat others like shit just because they did that to you. It doesn't justify it at all.

So how do you justify 2 FULL threads completely bashing BoL, when there was few people, if ANY at fault.

 

[Carth]

If someone murdered one of my loved ones I would murder them without question and turn myself in.

IRL

 

[Elemmire]

The Flameboard is getting too outta hand lately.. where are the mods?

 

[Carth]

Also: I'm ignorant, pompous, and impulsive to a fault.

 

[Elemmire]

err.. just realized there are no mods >.> bah.. stupid double posting.. anyways.. this section is ruining FFXI....

 

[Firestreak]

Now with that reality check inserted and you leetist shits are promptely enraged. I do agree with a majority of what was said the problem is your going about giveing feedback the wrong way. If MPK and monster theft and all those other things bother you, the talk to someone who can actually do something about it! Leave feedback to SE. Don't be a vigulanty leetist hore and try to police the game yourself, that just stupid wrong and your gunna piss people off!

Me and Sabia are talking specifically about this argument, not the entire thread. The context is really important for this one.

 

[neophytal]

BoLSF are seperate from the actually ls. Omicrons thing was done by ppl that is not in the HNM part of BoLSF. And yoshiindor's thing seemed like a misunderstanding. I dont agree with either but the HNM part is what is getting the most hate. I would like to know what you think is a great punishment for this. Since the things happened i havent heard of any one else stealing mobs from ppl. So that should at else be taken in account
thank you

heh you guys say that but half the people that camp the HNM now arent on the SF list..... unless they recently got pearls...... either way tho lol

 

[Watchyourstep]

I know many of the boL members, a lot of them are good people. The only reason you guys seem so bad right now is that your ls leader WYS has come here posting saying "I don't give a fuck". With your leader saying that it just shows a bad front (which i hope isn't true). I think that really sparked the argument more than it already was.

WYS shoulda said, It was a mistake and i will notify the ls of nms and their policy. With that, BoL would be cleared and people would have been a lot happier. WYS you stil have a chance by now saying what your ls stance on MPK/stealing is and what the consequences will be for it.

Lets be honest here, no matter how much of a defense I put up, I will always get assholes bashing me, so I dont really care anymore, they're comments mean nothing to me

Personally, if you dont know me, or have gotten the pleasure to, dont talk shit, it makes you look dumb, and stupid because u have no idea what you are talking about, just like I dont go around talking shit about other people, because thats not my style, but if its your, then big ups!, we all know how that represents you in real life. You dont like me? then come confront me in person , because of all the bashing I have not had 1 single hater come to me personally lol, funny.. anyways.. like ohter BoL members have said, Of all the things I'm trying to correct, alligations and opinions keep coming up, so basically if your not going to accept the fact that shit happens, and let it go so we can correct it, than theres no point in wasting my time on that part right? Happy hunting :wink: