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I enjoy my sight and I would like to keep enjoying it in the future :p

Deci wanted a bigger one but when we got it home, he admitted it looked way bigger than it did in the store.
 
Mirewen said:
I enjoy my sight and I would like to keep enjoying it in the future :p

Deci wanted a bigger one but when we got it home, he admitted it looked way bigger than it did in the store.
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TV's always grow on the ride home. Generally TV stores have much higher ceilings and they're next to a bunch of other TV's the same size, so they don't look as big as they do when you get them home.

The minimum recommended distance for a 52" TV to not cause eye strain is like 5 feet away from the TV(6 feet for 60", 8 feet for 73", etc) for. Pretty much from any comfortable distance where a sane person would actually be sitting to watch TV, you can go with almost any size TV; the only exception might be the new 82" DLP's. I'm sitting 10 feet away from my 65" and a 40" TV would be way too small for my living room. The 40" in my bed room is probably too big, but damn it just looks too good to pass up.
 
Bajaratt said:
TV's always grow on the ride home. Generally TV stores have much higher ceilings and they're next to a bunch of other TV's the same size, so they don't look as big as they do when you get them home.
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Har har smartass, it's because in the store the juxtaposition of the smaller/medium TV's next to the stupidly huge TV's make them look smaller. We live in a 2 bedroom apartment, there is no need for a huge TV.

Over a certain size, it just gets ridiculous to the point where you're just buying a bigger size so you can say "omgz my TV is bigger than your TV". It's a television, not a penis.
 
Mirewen said:
Har har smartass, it's because in the store the juxtaposition of the smaller/medium TV's next to the stupidly huge TV's make them look smaller. We live in a 2 bedroom apartment, there is no need for a huge TV.

Over a certain size, it just gets ridiculous to the point where you're just buying a bigger size so you can say "omgz my TV is bigger than your TV". It's a television, not a penis.
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I'm not being a smartass(don't even know where you got that, honestly), what I explained is why the TV's look much bigger in your home than they do in the store. If your store is putting a 40" next to a 73", then they have a really crappy layout, any good store puts the same sizes near each other so they don't have you walking all over the place as they try to upsell you on the better model in the same size.

My 65" looks fine in my 2 bedroom apartment. When I turn out the lights to watch a movie, I get a very movie-theater-like experience. I would not get anywhere close to the same experience with a much smaller TV. It's also a hell of a lot better when I do split screen multiplayer, since we have much larger screens and can clearly see what's going on.

You can just say that you don't need/want a TV bigger than 40"; but stop saying that no one ever does or that we only want it to brag about it. Not everyone needs a large TV, true, but bragging rights or penis-envy are not the reasons why sane people spend thousands of dollars on televisions; especially if it's a lot cheaper than buying a smaller TV.
 
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Thought you were making fun of me saying it looks smaller in the store :p

I'm not saying that no one ever needs a TV bigger than 40"... as you'll note, mine is bigger than 40"... so me saying that would make absolutely no sense.

I'm saying that size isn't everything. Go for better quality than bigger size if you have to choose between the two.
 
Mirewen said:
Thought you were making fun of me saying it looks smaller in the store :p

I'm not saying that no one ever needs a TV bigger than 40"... as you'll note, mine is bigger than 40"... so me saying that would make absolutely no sense.

I'm saying that size isn't everything. Go for better quality than bigger size if you have to choose between the two.
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There are arguments for and against in the quality vs quantity(size) debate for TV's. For the average dumbass customer(and that's being kind), they really don't care about either as long as it's cheap; but usually they tend to go with bigger rather than better.

Depending on the size difference and the quality difference, it's easy to go one way or another. Unless you're missing out on noticeable improvements to picture quality(120Hz over 60Hz, 1080p vs 720p), really cool/useful features(DLNA, surround bar), or just enough plugs in the TV to suit your needs; generally size is a more important/desirable factor. Especially if you have a space specially set aside for the TV, it's annoying as hell to have extra space that you could have used to get a little bigger TV. I'm definitely a proponent of buying the better version(as long as you're actually getting something; I always buy the better stuff as long as I'm actually getting something out of it), but after you jump up a model or two, there's not really any reason to buy a "better" TV over a bigger one.

The comment about you saying no one needs bigger than a 40" was more in response to saying that after a certain point there's no reason to get a bigger TV other than bragging rights; which is wrong.
 
Might not be a reason for you, but it is for some. I've had friends go out and get 2" bigger than other friends just to say theirs is bigger, which is equally as stupid.

If you can afford both size and quality, go for it. In many cases though, you don't need to get a huge TV because of the size of the room. I agree that with split screen multiplayer games, bigger = better. Playing 4 player mariokart back in the day on a dinky TV was just horrible.
 
Yeah, I know some people actually do that, so I put that "sane" part in there.

Most people don't need a giant TV, but that's also reflected in the sales figures of the TV's. 40-46" sells more than 52", which sells more often than 60+.
 
I also have a new TV question regarding similar models to what are being discussed in this thread. I am considering moving my 42” Westinghouse into my room and getting a new TV for the living room. I like the new LED series from Samsung and have also been looking at the Samsung B750 LCD models since they have frequent sales going on right now and the reviews are very good. My main issue is with the Picture-in-Picture capabilities of most of the new models and I’m wondering if any of the industry people in this thread might be able to offer assistance.

I frequently use my TV for gaming or internet-surfing purposes while also watching TV in a PIP or PBP window. The Westinghouse lets me layer the DVI input from my computer and the HDMI input from the DirecTV box. I can use all of the external inputs into the TV in just about any order for PIP, PBP or POP. I’ve pulled up the manuals for a lot of the Samsung LCD and LED models all the way through Series 8, along with a variety of Sony and Sharp models. It doesn’t look like any of these have similar capabilities, which confuses me. The Westinghouse is 3 years old and was really one of the first budget 1080p models so I figured that the new TVs would have at least the same capability.

Are there new models of the higher quality LCD/LED TVs that allow you to have PIP/PBP/POP using two separate digital external inputs? The Samsung LCD and LED manuals say that when using PIP, the TV tuner input has to be one of the windows, with any of the external inputs as the other source. That does me no good with DirecTV since I have to go through the box before I have a useable signal making an internal tuner via coaxial useless. The Sony and Sharp models that I’ve looked at seem to have the same lack of capability. I really would prefer not to have to run the DirecTV signal into the computer and add additional processing duties just so I can create another window to watch TV while using the computer. I guess unless somebody in this thread knows otherwise that may be the only option left.
 
Jrodtaru said:
I also have a new TV question regarding similar models to what are being discussed in this thread. I am considering moving my 42” Westinghouse into my room and getting a new TV for the living room. I like the new LED series from Samsung and have also been looking at the Samsung B750 LCD models since they have frequent sales going on right now and the reviews are very good. My main issue is with the Picture-in-Picture capabilities of most of the new models and I’m wondering if any of the industry people in this thread might be able to offer assistance.

I frequently use my TV for gaming or internet-surfing purposes while also watching TV in a PIP or PBP window. The Westinghouse lets me layer the DVI input from my computer and the HDMI input from the DirecTV box. I can use all of the external inputs into the TV in just about any order for PIP, PBP or POP. I’ve pulled up the manuals for a lot of the Samsung LCD and LED models all the way through Series 8, along with a variety of Sony and Sharp models. It doesn’t look like any of these have similar capabilities, which confuses me. The Westinghouse is 3 years old and was really one of the first budget 1080p models so I figured that the new TVs would have at least the same capability.

Are there new models of the higher quality LCD/LED TVs that allow you to have PIP/PBP/POP using two separate digital external inputs? The Samsung LCD and LED manuals say that when using PIP, the TV tuner input has to be one of the windows, with any of the external inputs as the other source. That does me no good with DirecTV since I have to go through the box before I have a useable signal making an internal tuner via coaxial useless. The Sony and Sharp models that I’ve looked at seem to have the same lack of capability. I really would prefer not to have to run the DirecTV signal into the computer and add additional processing duties just so I can create another window to watch TV while using the computer. I guess unless somebody in this thread knows otherwise that may be the only option left.
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PIP is sadly pretty much dead. The few models who do use it generally will only PIP through the coax input. I think it's stupid that they took the feature away, but that's where the industry has gone from what I've seen.
 
I'd personally hold off on buying a new television. OLEDs are most likely what everyone will want in a couple years when the price goes down. I believe they are the thinnest TV available and also one of the cheapest to manufacture. You can print it out from a commercial inkjet without need of a backlight, allowing it to be even thinner than LCDs. Currently it's costly only due to being somewhat new to the market. With its cheap overall manufacture costs the price will just go down over time. The problem with the technology though is that LEDs tend to have a slightly lower lifespan than lets say LCD, at least those are the results our university is getting from what I've been hearing from professors.
 
Mystery said:
I'd personally hold off on buying a new television. OLEDs are most likely what everyone will want in a couple years when the price goes down. I believe they are the thinnest TV available and also one of the cheapest to manufacture. You can print it out from a commercial inkjet without need of a backlight, allowing it to be even thinner than LCDs. Currently it's costly only due to being somewhat new to the market. With its cheap overall manufacture costs the price will just go down over time. The problem with the technology though is that LEDs tend to have a slightly lower lifespan than lets say LCD, at least those are the results our university is getting from what I've been hearing from professors.
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OLED's are probably going to die off before they ever really come out. More than half of the original manufacturers for the TV's have dropped out of making them already; the lifespans make the original plasma's look like long-life devices(hello 2,000 hour lifespan) and their priced insanely high. We have a 11" TV in our system for $2500.

The thinness of the TV is irrelevant. Something huge like 90% of people don't wall mount their flat-panels, so having a thinner TV sitting on a stand/shelf doesn't mean anything. I'd love to see them come out, but right now they're more of a pipe dream than anything else.
 
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