Cop Taser a Surrendered Suspect

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This is pretty damn disgusting, granted we dont know what might've led up to this but i frankly dont care, the guy has his hands on the hood with his back to you, and you tase him right in the neck and proceed to do so till hes screaming on the ground? I myself want to be a cop one day, and im usually on the cops side when it comes to excessive force gray areas, but this is outright wrong. This officer deserves some serious punishment, to be fired unless they can somehow prove he was verbally provoked (In which case he should serve a severe suspension and some serious reprecussions on the matter).

One thing id like to know, dont stupid cops like this KNOW theres a camera on their own dash?
 
This is a better video with an interview as well



Allegedly, the guy who was tased threw a brick at the cop car, eitherway at that point in time he had surrendered, and its still wrong. Also, the arrest took place in the parking lot of a Police Precinct.
 
Wow, I'm not a big fan of police (never had a good encounter with them) but this just takes the motherfucking cake. Props to you Airou for having the ball to wanna be in law enforcement >.>;
 
Okay, given what I got out of the video. We have no idea what events lead up before this. The video itself looks horrendously bad on the Police Officer's part, but can you tell me how this suspect was acting before he had his hands on the dash? No. How do we know he wasn't all tensed up waiting for an opening to strike the officer? How do we know there wasn't already a huge verble arguement. How do we know what this individuals past record looks like. Whether or not he's part of a gang? You don't know anything from the video other than the Police Officer tasered the individual after he had his hands on the car.

It's up to what was written in that officer's report about the entire situation. Though somehow I seriously doubt the dash camera had only been rolling from that small point on to the execution of the taser. And just how did the lawyer procure just that small portion of the dash cam video. Very convenient.

This is the stuff jerk off lawyers love.

Also in defense of the Cop, the individual was physically larger. He definitely has the physical ability to carry out any threat he might have made before the video rolled and let me tell you if that was the case that officer is completely justified.
 
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Okay, given what I got out of the video. We have no idea what events lead up before this. The video itself looks horrendously bad on the Police Officer's part, but can you tell me how this suspect was acting before he had his hands on the dash? No. How do we know he wasn't all tensed up waiting for an opening to strike the officer? How do we know there wasn't already a huge verble arguement. How do we know what this individuals past record looks like. Whether or not he's part of a gang? You don't know anything from the video other than the Police Officer tasered the individual after he had his hands on the car.

It's up to what was written in that officer's report about the entire situation. Though somehow I seriously doubt the dash camera had only been rolling from that small point on to the execution of the taser. And just how did the lawyer procure just that small portion of the dash cam video. Very convenient.

This is the stuff jerk off lawyers love.

Also in defense of the Cop, the individual was physically larger. He definitely has the physical ability to carry out any threat he might have made before the video rolled and let me tell you if that was the case that officer is completely justified.


This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, given the fact that the guy had SURRENDERED already. There is no justification for the officer if the guy already had his hands on the hood of the car.

Based on what you're saying, if someone threatens to physically harm the officer, and the officer feels his life was threatened, given the fact that the guy has surrendered, the officer has the right to shoot the guy? I would understand if the perp was still resisting arrest or some shit like that, but given the situation, this officer should be losing his job.
 
Agreed. Based on the video, it wasn't justified. The guy wasn't doing a thing when the cop used the Taser. He should be fired.
 
My only issue with the video is that it doesn't show anything of what happened leading UP to the tasing. It just cuts in at the point where the cop does something that certainly looks like excessive force.
 
My only issue with the video is that it doesn't show anything of what happened leading UP to the tasing. It just cuts in at the point where the cop does something that certainly looks like excessive force.
This is why I'm reserving judgment. By the video, it looks unprovoked, but we don't really know if it -was- unprovoked, or if the guy said anything before the clip.
 
This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, given the fact that the guy had SURRENDERED already. There is no justification for the officer if the guy already had his hands on the hood of the car.

Based on what you're saying, if someone threatens to physically harm the officer, and the officer feels his life was threatened, given the fact that the guy has surrendered, the officer has the right to shoot the guy? I would understand if the perp was still resisting arrest or some shit like that, but given the situation, this officer should be losing his job.

You can really only comment about your point of view from the portion of the video shown.

Anything else is pure conjecture and despite how obvious it looks it is mighty convenient there isn't anymore shown except the portion where he was hit with the device.

Btw, is that thing even technically a taser from Taser International?

From what I know Tasers actually shoot projectiles out of a cartridge before applying the shock.

This is more of a shock prod or small stun baton. ;O

Not relevant to the action of the Officer, but jw if it's an authentic Taser.
 
You can really only comment about your point of view from the portion of the video shown.

Anything else is pure conjecture and despite how obvious it looks it is mighty convenient there isn't anymore shown except the portion where he was hit with the device.

Btw, is that thing even technically a taser from Taser International?

From what I know Tasers actually shoot projectiles out of a cartridge before applying the shock.

This is more of a shock prod or small stun baton. ;O

Not relevant to the action of the Officer, but jw if it's an authentic Taser.


Unless the guy was actually attacking the officer, the use of the taser is not justified. He coulda been calling the cop every name that is, and isnt, in the book, that still wouldnt have warranted the use of the taser. What the guy did prior to surrendering doesn't mean much here. The dude was complying with the surrender, there was no need for the taser at that point.

I mean hell, its like a cop pulling out his gun and shooting a guy, even though the dude laid down his weapon and is on the floor with his arms and legs spread o_O
 
Most police organizations allow, sometimes even encourage, the use of tasers as a means to compel compliance.

So, for example, if they'd asked him to put his hands behind his back so that he could be handcuffed, and he refused, in many precincts that is grounds to tase.

This, in theory, is for the safety and well-being of all parties involved. Rather than risk physical injury to the officer or the suspect, the taser is used as a less-than-subtle encouragement. Getting tased (even in the drive/stun setting, a contact tase, which is less debilitating than getting the darts shot into you) may hurt like hell, but it beats broken bones or dislocated limbs, both of which are a risk in a physical confrontation.
 
I stated, that allegedly the suspect threw a brick at a cop car, was then going to be arrested.

I don care what the guy mightve said or done, you are a police officer and he had his back to you with his hands down, surrendering. I understand if he had it out for precaution, but the guy did nothing at that point in time to warrant its use.

The events that led up to it are the difference between termination of his job, or a suspension, that is it. There is nothing that justifies entirely what he did
 
I doubt that guy was much of a threat. He was in a police precinct parking lot, surrounded by cops. Did you not see the other douchebags laughing their asses off as he was screaming? There were 4 or 5 other cops there.
 
I doubt that guy was much of a threat. He was in a police precinct parking lot, surrounded by cops. Did you not see the other douchebags laughing their asses off as he was screaming? There were 4 or 5 other cops there.

That doesn't really mean anything, if a suspect turned and said he was gonna clock you in the face I don't see why you wouldn't taze them. And sure the setting has some effect, but people have done more stupid shit (See: when there was acouple guys who tried to rob a police station). Not defending what the cop did, just reiterating its hard to pass judgement till you have the whole story. Because as it was reported he did through a brick at the cop car which, im assuming was also in the same police parking lot.
 
Unless there is more to this story, that cop was out of line. In the past, I've defended every incident involving tasers but this I have a hard time defending from what I've seen.
 
This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, given the fact that the guy had SURRENDERED already. There is no justification for the officer if the guy already had his hands on the hood of the car.

Based on what you're saying, if someone threatens to physically harm the officer, and the officer feels his life was threatened, given the fact that the guy has surrendered, the officer has the right to shoot the guy? I would understand if the perp was still resisting arrest or some shit like that, but given the situation, this officer should be losing his job.

Yes, but not to shoot the guy. The suspect was tased, which is less-than-lethal force which means not likely to cause great bodily injury or loss of life. From what I could tell it was not the gun-like taser that shoots out two prongs. It looks like he had one of the close range tasers where you actually have to press it up to the person to deliver the shock.

You don't understand because apparently you don't know anything about law enforcement training and policies. That's okay though, because the majority of the general public don't understand. In fact you pretty much have to be in law enforcement or married to law enforcement to understand. Now, I'm not saying there wasn't perhaps a better way to handle the situation. Just that he was more than likely within his training to do what he did, and that's legal.

If someone has the physical ability to carry out a threat of bodily injury, we are within our rights to use force on them to protect ourselves. Given the size of the suspect compared to the cop, there's no way in hell If I were the cop I would want to risk getting behind that man and letting him have the opportunity to hurt me.

Everyone seems to be under the impression that because this guys hands are on the car he had surrendered. The way I see it they haven't "surrendered", if that's what you want to call it, until they have their hands cuffed behind the back and are sitting in the back seat of the vehicle where they pose far less of a threat to the officer.

I totally agree that the video shows nothing but bad things for that officer. It doesn't look good at all. I also still believe it's quite unreliable without footage of everything that led up to that point.

Video camera's can be our best friend or worst enemy depending on what they happen to capture.

I've been in a situation like this before before, where there was an incident that required a use of force and a camera was not on the scene immediately due to the spontaneous need for the use of force. When the camera did arrive and start filming it only caught maybe 30% of what had occurred, if even that. What the camera footage showed did not look in our favor. And even though all of our reports reflected what had happened and was on the camera. The camera didn't show everything leading up to why we had to do what we did. And so the retarded higher ups that we had at the time felt that excessive force had been used and decided to punish one of the leaders of my team by kicking him off the team. They weren't there, I and everyone else on the team was there. The use of force was completely justified and gave the results required, but the higher ups wanted to focus on the video and not our reports. A week later we all decided to quit that particular team. No sense on being on a special team if no one of higher authority has your back when real shit goes down that isn't pretty. So I can easily understand what this officer is probably going through.

Now if we were to know via tape that the whole time this suspect was "Yes sir, No sir." and doing everything asked and gave no intentions of causing trouble, then yes, the officer would definitely be out of line.

But we don't know that do we? Why, It's not shown.

Now as to the comment about other officers being in the background and laughing. Well, I'll have to watch it again because I didn't see them. But to be honest I couldn't not crack a bit of a smile either at how the big man screamed like a girl. It's always kind of funny to watch people get tased be they law enforcement for training purposes or actual police footage on the field. Funny to watch but not nearly as amusing to be on the receiving side.
 
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Okay, just rewatched the footage again.

Where are you guys seeing any other police in the video, let alone see them laughing while the tasing is going on. There are only two people on that video and that is it. I scanned the entire background for anything that even remotely looked like a person and the closest thing is maybe by the truck on the far right of the video. I watched, nothing moved the entire time at that truck so I'm pretty sure there was no one there.

I swear, sometimes I wonder what some of you are smoking.
 
Well, in the second video it does look like a few of the cops were chuckling while looking over the guy, he was still on the ground probably cuffed by that point. Idk what about obviously, but like it was mentioned, it's no laughing matter.

I don't see the purpose of tasing that man. The officer looked pretty calm and was out of camera view so I assume a decent distance away from this guy whos hand were in fact on the hood in the way most officers would expect a surrendering person to do.

So yea, pretty gross imo.
 
You don't understand because apparently you don't know anything about law enforcement training and policies. That's okay though, because the majority of the general public don't understand. In fact you pretty much have to be in law enforcement or married to law enforcement to understand. Now, I'm not saying there wasn't perhaps a better way to handle the situation. Just that he was more than likely within his training to do what he did, and that's legal.

If someone has the physical ability to carry out a threat of bodily injury, we are within our rights to use force on them to protect ourselves. Given the size of the suspect compared to the cop, there's no way in hell If I were the cop I would want to risk getting behind that man and letting him have the opportunity to hurt me.

Everyone seems to be under the impression that because this guys hands are on the car he had surrendered. The way I see it they haven't "surrendered", if that's what you want to call it, until they have their hands cuffed behind the back and are sitting in the back seat of the vehicle where they pose far less of a threat to the officer.

QFT and thanks for providing a PoV most non-LEO/Private Protectors don't understand.
 
Okay, just rewatched the footage again.

Where are you guys seeing any other police in the video, let alone see them laughing while the tasing is going on. There are only two people on that video and that is it. I scanned the entire background for anything that even remotely looked like a person and the closest thing is maybe by the truck on the far right of the video. I watched, nothing moved the entire time at that truck so I'm pretty sure there was no one there.

I swear, sometimes I wonder what some of you are smoking.

He was in a POLICE PRECINCT PARKING LOT.

Now, im not in law enforcement yet but, call me crazy... but i think theres gonna be some cops around there. The officer was in no danger, at the very least he could pull the taser out, and threaten the suspect with it. Or if he felt he was in such danger, he couldve called for back up.

Also, do you have the right to keep tasering the guy for several seconds after he is already down and screaming in pain? He continued to tase him while he was already on the ground for atleast 10 seconds (THe camera cutz to an interview). Did the cop feel he was in danger? Or was the cop only safe until the suspect is passed out?

THe cop couldve asked him to getdown on the ground if he was so afraid of the suspect turning on him. In the first video at the end it states "There were a number of officers on the scene"

The suspect did something stupid by allegedly throwing a brick at the car, and the cop wanted to teach him a lesson. Its that simple.
 
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