Couple of things

[Zyndara]

Lets suppose someone lost their mother recently to cancer, and someone else on the board discovers this; if they then send a few random rate downs with the commentary "Ha ha your mum's dead" is that considered ok? Would you be able to brush off such a comment if it had just happened to a loved one you know?


I really think the internet has desensified alot of us to what is considered social behaviour.

But this is part of the issue. No, that's not ok. It's mean-spirited, it's harrassment and it sucks. But you cannot paint everyone with that brush. Not everyone is a sadistic asshole out to cut someone down or say the most hurtful things simply because they can. In fact, what everyone needs to realize is that these people that are taking things to the extreme are not the majority.

I agree that people are somewhat desensitized... Somehow for some people the mantra becomes "lol internet" like posting on the web gives you a license to be a dickhead. But not everyone thinks that way. And accordingly, not everyone should have to suffer because the tiny minority chooses to revel in anti-social behavior. Unfortunately in life, people will be hurtful because they can. So you identify those people and you avoid them. This is what the ignore function is for. And if people refuse to use the tools at their disposal to avoid those folks, they have only themselves to blame for their hurt feelings.

 

[Miros]

Okay guys, take a huge breath and calm down. What do you guys think about when you see the rep system? I think of a way for people to really give props to the good posts that are made around here and rate down people who seem to just flamebait and whatnot. It's not being used that way. It's a friends thing, that's it. It was like I said before, I was looking through comments made by people on this board and frankly, I would be ashamed if I was half of you. The comments left were disgusting and that's what is partially putting me over the edge.

The funniest thing I keep hearing is jokes about how the rep system is not a big deal and means nothing...yet this thread has been the fastest growing one in a long time. I can understand private things being said in rate ups, but at the same time we can't complain about someone leaving nasty messages then since it is...private.

At this point I am 75% convinced to get rid of the reputation system and replace it with something that is more fun I should say. A gil system was something I always wanted to see in. One that you could spend points on to get funky little items in your profile, and use a shoutbox much like at shinraonline. And before I hear the "Oh so you can support pointless posts?" BS...almost everything on these boards is BS at one time or another.

 

[beeznuts]

shoutbox much like at shinraonline

like at shinraonline

at shinraonline

shinraonline

shinraonline

shinraonline

Miros :/

 

[Bajaratt]

wow... way to be hurl instults [sarcastic thumbs up] way to go! you've just undermined the entire thread!!!

Unless your name is hellstorm, I didn't insult you. Good job trying to ignore my actual post with deflection though.

please refrain from making the judgement that people with low rep want it gone because they have no rep, and please refrain from generalizing the people who want a change as "just a few people who are either voluntarily not participating, or are suffering from their own stupidity that the ones who want this change; and they are not the people who should be influencing the decision." because in all honesty you cannot make those judgements unless you had read every rate that has ever been cast.

This is just stupid.

Almost everyone(I'd say everyone, but just in case there's 1-2 people with big rep bars) who wants the rep gone either have no rep or have negative rep. It's a completely true observation, so you can crawl off your soap box already. If you can't see that it's only the people with small/no/red rep bars that are the ones wanting the system gone, then it's a failing on your part. If you're not one of those people, you can pat yourself on the back, but that does not detract in anyway from the truth of what I said.

The number of people who are abusing the rep system are very, very few. If there were more, then there would be widespread discussion about it. The only one I remember off-hand is jyakotsu, and that'd be simple to fix: ban him.

The ones who want the rep system gone are the ones who are making completely unfounded accusations about the people using the system. Either we're all only getting rated up by our friends regardless of what we post(which isn't true) or we're all abusing the system(which obviously isn't true).

 

[Lanien]

Okay guys, take a huge breath and calm down. What do you guys think about when you see the rep system? I think of a way for people to really give props to the good posts that are made around here and rate down people who seem to just flamebait and whatnot. It's not being used that way. It's a friends thing, that's it. It was like I said before, I was looking through comments made by people on this board and frankly, I would be ashamed if I was half of you. The comments left were disgusting and that's what is partially putting me over the edge.

The funniest thing I keep hearing is jokes about how the rep system is not a big deal and means nothing...yet this thread has been the fastest growing one in a long time. I can understand private things being said in rate ups, but at the same time we can't complain about someone leaving nasty messages then since it is...private.

At this point I am 75% convinced to get rid of the reputation system and replace it with something that is more fun I should say. A gil system was something I always wanted to see in. One that you could spend points on to get funky little items in your profile, and use a shoutbox much like at shinraonline. And before I hear the "Oh so you can support pointless posts?" BS...almost everything on these boards is BS at one time or another.

How is reputation in game different from having a reputation outside the game? When you talk about someone highly in real life, is it not because they have a good reputation? Do people like that normally have more or less friends than people with shitty reputations? By getting rid of the system, you are turning a blind eye to the way society and communities operate as a whole. It's as if you are trying to change the word by making people who are douches more reputable and those who actually have friends into some soft of plague against this community.

I think it's about time you take another look at who really makes up this community.

 

[Zyndara]

The funniest thing I keep hearing is jokes about how the rep system is not a big deal and means nothing...yet this thread has been the fastest growing one in a long time. I can understand private things being said in rate ups, but at the same time we can't complain about someone leaving nasty messages then since it is...private.

But this isn't what a lot of people are saying I don't think. From what I'm reading, people are saying that if you feel the need to make it public, they may not like it, but do what you gotta do. But don't take previously posted statements that were made under the understanding that they were private and make them public. I don't think that's too much to ask. Say, "Starting today you will be held accountable for what you post in rep and it will be viewable by everyone." Then all someone has to do is send you a PM when their cheerios have been pissed in and ask to have you take a look at what some jackass posted and you can handle it accordingly.

It is kind of messed up to take the rep system which the majority here seem to enjoy and throw it down the chute because of a small number of people who can't help themselves from being total idiots. Why would you jack the majority of us who don't abuse it? It doesn't make sense.

 

[Tyrath]

wow... way to be hurl instults [sarcastic thumbs up] way to go! you've just undermined the entire thread!!!

please refrain from making the judgement that people with low rep want it gone because they have no rep, and please refrain from generalizing the people who want a change as "just a few people who are either voluntarily not participating, or are suffering from their own stupidity that the ones who want this change; and they are not the people who should be influencing the decision." because in all honesty you cannot make those judgements unless you had read every rate that has ever been cast.

He didn't say all people with low rep want it gone. He said everyone who wants it gone has low rep.

Squares and rectangles.

 

[EllySeiko]

He didn't say all people with low rep want it gone. He said everyone who wants it gone has low rep.

Squares and rectangles.

that's kinda what i meant. xD i just didn't make it clear in text. it would have been clearer in speech but i fail lol.

 

[Miros]

It is kind of messed up to take the rep system which the majority here seem to enjoy and throw it down the chute because of a small number of people who can't help themselves from being total idiots. Why would you jack the majority of us who don't abuse it? It doesn't make sense.

Because the majority does abuse it. I've looked at several people's history with rep and most have flamebaited one way or another. But this thread is plain starting to piss me off and it's just going back and forth so I'm going to move it to a poll and go with what the outcome of that is.