Curaga + Divine Seal = > hate than Benediction?

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I was partying in Crawler's Nest the other day fighting a beetle when another one linked. Things got crazy when the blm/whm's sleep didn't last long and neither did mine. Our pld died and we were in bad shape when our blm/whm desperatly casted Divine Seal + Curaga. Now he was getting pounded to death, but we managed to kill one of the beetles. We somehow got the other beetle to about 1/16th of its hp when our whm had to use Benediction (keep in mind that our blm was still getting hit). The beetle didn't even stop attacking our blm. It completly ignored the benediction and killed the blm. Our whole pt was shocked. I know Curaga gets some pretty big hate and coupled with Divine Seal it's even more but more than Benediction?
 
From what I hear, it depends on how much HP is cured overall.
 
It is damn close I will give you that much at least.

Perhaps the Blm was a Taru? That would most likely account for it as well. :twisted:

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I think that Curaga won't generate more hate than benediction by itself. Coupled with Divine Seal, however, it seems to generate more.

I've used Benediction before without the mob turning my way, but other times I've taken a beating after pulling out a Divine Seal + Curaga 3. They were different tanks, but they were both doing a good job at holding hate, so I'm calling them even.

But yeah, some of that hate might just be from the blm's nukes. Also, if the blm was curing himself while he was getting hit, that's more hate.
 
Divine seal adds a little to the hate amount, but other than that it is mostly based off amount of hp cured.
 
The amount of hate pulled by curaga depends on how much hp is healed... and the hate you get off the mob only counts for pt members that you've cured that already have hate (ie, if someone is standing idle and does NOTHING at all but has like 10 hp, you won't get any hate for curing them).

Benediction pulls less hate than some curagas, like ds+curaga3. I've done benediction many times fighting Fenrir after he does 2 hour and it never pulls hate, but ds+curaga3 is a death wish even though it cures by much less than benediction does in the same situation.
 
mikeman06 said:
I was partying in Crawler's Nest the other day fighting a beetle when another one linked. Things got crazy when the blm/whm's sleep didn't last long and neither did mine. Our pld died and we were in bad shape when our blm/whm desperatly casted Divine Seal + Curaga. Now he was getting pounded to death, but we managed to kill one of the beetles. We somehow got the other beetle to about 1/16th of its hp when our whm had to use Benediction (keep in mind that our blm was still getting hit). The beetle didn't even stop attacking our blm. It completly ignored the benediction and killed the blm. Our whole pt was shocked. I know Curaga gets some pretty big hate and coupled with Divine Seal it's even more but more than Benediction?
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Any DD will have a huge amount of hate in the hate race by the end of a fight. What determines if you get hit or not is if you exceed the hate amount that the current tank has accumulated, and what determines if you will be pummeled to death is by how much hate you have just exceeded the tank.

If the tank happens to catch you back up in the hate race while you are still alive hate will go back to the tank. In other words if you've been doing alot of healing or damaging the mob alot, you will be far ahead of the hate game. And you should be prepared to die if you decide to do big heals or big damage spells, which will clearly put you out of reach to be saved.

So while a curaga + divine seal may seem to generate more hate than benediction, it's really not. Ther person casting curaga is probably just so far ahead in the hate game that a whm casting benediction will not exceed the hate that the curaga caster had.
 
The Job Ability itself Divine seal would activate some hate.

Divine Seal doubles hte effectiveness of the next healing spell. So doing a curaga would double the potency and double the HP regained. Multiple this by the number of party members and it's pretty similar to a benediction... that's why I was introduced to it as a mini-bene.

Then the person was healing themselves? That would add to more hate....... so all in all, it'd be hard for the tank to grab hate if not much had accumulated in the first place.
 
It also greatly depends upon how much did the curaga + divine seal gave back and how much the benediction gave back. If you all were pretty full and only the black mage was low when the whm casted bene vs. when the blm casted curaga + divine seal and you ALL were low health. The amount of health given back was alot greater for the blm.
 
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