Dancer and Subjob question

[Tim Wakefield]

Ok, I hit 33 Dancer today. Been subbing Ninja since 25. Today I glanced at my combat skill, and because of my Hand-to-hand merits, my H2H skill is equal with my Dagger skill. Because I am a moron, one the the main reasons I went /nin in first place was because I figured the difference in a B weapon vs. a D weapon would be noticeable. So basically, would it be reasonable to go back to using Hand-to-hand and sub something else? I don't know what I'd sub, but even /war seems like a better deal. I have pretty good gear, but have only been parsing about 20% since level 28.

Sorry if this is a noobish question. I'm an idiot when it comes to things like this. Thanks.

 

[Neisan]

Lack of Martial Arts might hurt you in the long run using H2H subbing War. Well, there is berserk, but I don't know how much that will off set DoT or TP gain by.

 

[Jussy]

I'd suggest sticking with /nin and using daggers. I'm pretty sure you swing faster with low delay daggers and Dual Wield than h2h with /mnk. And in my experience, DNC is all about accumulating TP, not dealing dmg. I used Federation knives (or daggers?) from 25-46, then you get Bone +1s. The only time I did /mnk was at lower levels when I was killing stuff that I got to use a WS on, bec Combo > Wasp Sting :OP

 

[Tim Wakefield]

I'd suggest sticking with /nin and using daggers. I'm pretty sure you swing faster with low delay daggers and Dual Wield than h2h with /mnk. And in my experience, DNC is all about accumulating TP, not dealing dmg. I used Federation knives (or daggers?) from 25-46, then you get Bone +1s. The only time I did /mnk was at lower levels when I was killing stuff that I got to use a WS on, bec Combo > Wasp Sting :OP

Never thought about that. Thanks for the input guys.

 

[Claudhert]

But once you get DNC to a sub-able level it gets ALOT more fun i think. Personaly i have tons of fun on 75PLD/35DNC casue i can solo thinks i never thought i ever could do

And becasue of /DNC i was able to get my Sea Gorget. because i could Solo Om' Aerns. Which are even-Tough to my PLD with no problem.... except the BLM arern... he fucked me up royaly lol , And then There is SAM/DNC with a Soboro, its incredibly fun, I cant wait to get SAM to 70 so i can use drain samba2 and HEaling waltz on SAM

 

[Lavi]

I'd suggest sticking with /nin and using daggers. I'm pretty sure you swing faster with low delay daggers and Dual Wield than h2h with /mnk. And in my experience, DNC is all about accumulating TP, not dealing dmg. I used Federation knives (or daggers?) from 25-46, then you get Bone +1s. The only time I did /mnk was at lower levels when I was killing stuff that I got to use a WS on, bec Combo > Wasp Sting :OP

TP gain is generally proportional to delay which is proportional to time so either will give you the same TP gain over time. Now, this not exactly true, but it's approximate. The change to delay wasn't enough to make one consider one weapon type over another. If anything, go with the weapons which will provide you with higher accuracy. If daggers can give you +acc stats in both hands and maybe some attack as well, go with those. If there aren't any, find h2h weapons that do. There is also the issue of hitting for 0's which a higher base damage weapon can help with and since daggers are the lowest base damage, it might be best to go with h2h. I know on THF I had trouble hitting for 0's on crabs and Antica around the 40-50's range, but that was also pre-ToA.

 

[Jussy]

Well, yeah I've heard that. But at any rate, /nin allows you to backup tank for pre37 ninjas and adds to general survivability. Helps you pull better too.

 

[Tim Wakefield]

But once you get DNC to a sub-able level it gets ALOT more fun i think. Personaly i have tons of fun on 75PLD/35DNC casue i can solo thinks i never thought i ever could do

And becasue of /DNC i was able to get my Sea Gorget. because i could Solo Om' Aerns. Which are even-Tough to my PLD with no problem.... except the BLM arern... he fucked me up royaly lol , And then There is SAM/DNC with a Soboro, its incredibly fun, I cant wait to get SAM to 70 so i can use drain samba2 and HEaling waltz on SAM

Thats really the main reason I'm leveling it. After watching Genomes video of him soloing Imps like a mad man and soloing ODS as MNK/DNC, I couldn't resist. Obviously I don't intend to do things like that, because his gear is far superior, but I've heard great things about PLD/DNC and MNK/DNC, my only two high level jobs

 

[Liefe]

/MNK and H2H until at least 50 for DW2, /NIN after Dancing Edge or or DW2.

 

[Kirlua]

Don't forget that dnc will need to help in Curing with their dances etc. /NIN will probably be better option overall since you will get hate pretty often from the Cures.

 

[Jojojo]

Does Dual Wield even increase TP gain? TP is calculated after the delay decrease, so I'm skeptical that it even helps.

In fact if I were DNC i would so go DNC/SAM with a joyeuse, but I'm not.