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With sufficient numbers, Tia can easily be zerged with neither the need for a great strategy or a whole lot of skill. The evidence is plainly there, /wave Insurrection and hi2u Amerie. Throw a few tanks, a ton of WHMs and go to town, no skill required.
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Hmm, since when is doing tia with 2 tanks, 2 whms, 1 rdm, 1 brd and a bunch of DDs a zerg? And it's not like you need a whole lot of strategy to beat Tiamat. The aforementioned group of 6 players can tank tiamat until the end of time. The amount of DDs after that only affects kill time, not strategy. 1 DD will take hours, 12 DDs will take 30 minutes. /shrug
 
Freysi said:
Hmm, since when is doing tia with 2 tanks, 2 whms, 1 rdm, 1 brd and a bunch of DDs a zerg? And it's not like you need a whole lot of strategy to beat Tiamat. The aforementioned group of 6 players can tank tiamat until the end of time. The amount of DDs after that only affects kill time, not strategy. 1 DD will take hours, 12 DDs will take 30 minutes. /shrug
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Don't pay any attention to Lavi. *wave Frey*
 
I'd like to give some people shit, for giving others shit, about stupid things, but I can't, because there is just a lot of shit being thrown around for shitty reasons.



























shitshitshitshitshitpoop
 
Caerloc said:
Lucky for me i have a brd, a rdm, a blm, a pld, a war, a nin and a mnk and can take role possible in an alliance. And i can tell you right now i rather have a great tank and shitty support then the other way around.
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That has absolutely nothing to do with what I even said. :/ You seem to have some kind of god complex to where you think your ls can't accomplish anything without you. Guess what? You're expendable. This game doesn't revolve around one player. You aren't god. You aren't even important. Time to get off that high horse and have a reality check, lol.

For the second failsentence, both can and will easily result in wipes. A "great tank" cannot magically keep himself alive if his enfeeblers/healers/etc aren't doing their job. I promise you, you'd even wipe to your buddy Simurgh with your "amazing" tanking if your supporters are shitty.
 
Mattaru said:
I'd like to give some people shit, for giving others shit, about stupid things, but I can't, because there is just a lot of shit being thrown around for shitty reasons.
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Hey man, at least at the end of the day, when the servers are nice and quiet... you know, the time of day when even the crawlers in Saruta aren't being mercilessly slaughtered... you can at least take solice in the fact that Caerloc is sleeping soundly in bed... fully knowing... that he pwns at FFXI. Ahhhhh... it is a good life.
 
Amerie said:
Caerloc STFU.

Please.

Your BRD > Mine? LMAO. Blind and stupid!

I play on PS2, so I cant screenshot BUT i'll tell you what! Why dont you actually sign on and meet me in aht urgan, i'd be more than happy to prove to everyone that My BRD > URS. In skill, merits and gear. Trust and believe i'm not the best BRD, but if you honestly think Your BRD > mine, you need a reality check. One I'll be MORE than happy to shove in your face.

I'll be waiting on game for you^^; but you probably wont show cause the games too easy and you have better things to do.. Like.. post on forums about how good you are at a game you dont play anymore because you have better things to do irl.

You bring the LULz.


P.S I didn't mention LS names, because I'm not interested in dragging whoever it is I keep in my company into the flameboard. Maybe you should show your friends the same respect because you make yourself look -really- Bad and even if I do the same, the difference is, I don't drag people down with me.

Pchan > You. Believe it.
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Im not seeing a time, place or event anywhere in there.
 
Courtney said:
Wow, you happily call everyone else all the names under the sun, but if someone calls you on something you've said (something that was incredibly stupid) you do your nut!



No, the mobs seem the same to you because you don't understand the differences. I'm guessing at the moment that you're new to endgame, which probably excuses your ignorance about the differences in the mobs you're talking about. The differences, particularly between Fafnir and Tiamat, are among the most significant in the game, and they've changed the way all endgame NMs are fought.

When Tiamat was first introduced it wandered free, unkilled for months. Fafnir/Nidhogg was killed everyday, and you'd think that Tiamat would die as soon as it popped each week, right? Wrong. LSs went in with the same tactics that they used on Fafnir (hey, it looks the same right?) and they got mashed. The same tactics did not work. It was months before the mob was actually killed, and months more before it became routine.

At least five major tactical changes came about from testing on Tiamat, new tactics that hadn't been seen in endgame (I don't have to tell you what they were, you surely already know). Tiamat even completely changed the role of one job, from a buff provider/back up healer to an endgame DD (until a new piece of gear made it obsolete again, you know what that was too, I'm sure). Tactics that on the surface appeared to be rubbish, and had already been discounted, but tactics that a few players with vision developed changed the way all endgame mobs are fought.

Other mobs have had an influence on endgame tactics, but no other mob has forced a revolution in the way we fight endgame mobs like Tiamat did, that same Tiamat that you see as exactly the same as Fafnir.

It's an insult to the leaders of the top shells (including yours and mine) to completely slight the way they changed the game, and it's the height of arrogance for you to think that because you can't go in and kill a mob with your standard 18 players that it must be broken. You keep going using the standard techniques that have been handed to you, and leave the exciting stuff for someone else.






But hey, it doesn't matter if you know what you're talking about, right? So long as you insult the most people, you must be right...
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I dont see how mobs where killed 3 years have anything to do with how you killing anything today. It doesnt change anything about what i said. The fights are generic copies of eachother with minor differences. But sure, i was there when PLD/WAR and NIN/WAR was the only possible tanks. I've seen the strategys revolving aerial armors, war/whms, nin/drks, pld/nin, rdm/nin, nin/brd, Brd/nin. I know when smn's where the only viable damage.

All of it doesnt change anything at all. The fights are copies of eachother, with minor differences. They are so alike, that one generic alliance can kill anything in the game (yes fine, no AV no PW) without a single jobchange.

But you know, its not just me who thinks those 2 mobs are broken. Its the entire endgame community, across the servers. Well, except you apparently.

Anyways, Fafnir was introduced during the 70 cap. You dont know anything about fafnir cause you wherent the one to figure out how to kill him at that time.
 
Bajaratt said:
If new strats are coming out, or they're progressing, obviously that means that everything isn't playing the same. Otherwise there'd just be one strategy and it wouldn't change.



The only time I've seen this is on Cerberus, not exactly "oh so loved"
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I cant really be held responsible for you not getting around much.
 
Rappa said:
Someone should listen to their own fucking words, lol. Also, lrn2multiquote
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Somoene should learn about irony.
 
Rappa said:
That has absolutely nothing to do with what I even said. :/ You seem to have some kind of god complex to where you think your ls can't accomplish anything without you. Guess what? You're expendable. This game doesn't revolve around one player. You aren't god. You aren't even important. Time to get off that high horse and have a reality check, lol.

For the second failsentence, both can and will easily result in wipes. A "great tank" cannot magically keep himself alive if his enfeeblers/healers/etc aren't doing their job. I promise you, you'd even wipe to your buddy Simurgh with your "amazing" tanking if your supporters are shitty.
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Ofcourse i dont. My ls can and is going strong without me. I understand that you havent been to to many endgame fights, but you would know that a strong tank is the absolut priority. Of course he cant solo, but ill list a number of reason for you why a strong tank with shitty support usually are gonna be ok. Ill also tell you why the other way around is much less common.

A good tank
A strong tank doesnt require as much healing. It saves a support with bad mp management.
He can (assuming pld, wich is what i would pick for the generic kill all alliance) cure himself and others if the support doesnt pay attention and are slow to react. He can go longer periods of time without haste, cause he will know how to swap maximum amount of gear in where needed. He will also be better at gearswappin in general, swapping in m.dmg down, physical dmg down, shieldskill, enmity as needed. Again cutting the dmg he is taking, making him close to selfsufficient.


A weak tank.
A weak tank cant keep hate from the curespam he is needing. A weak tank doesnt gearswap into different sets, thus taking more dmg, thus even faster depleting the mp of the ever so great support. A weak tank cant manage his mp and is constantly out of hatetools or means to cure. He probably wont keep track of his shadows very well and is gonna take more dmg then even the best whm can handle without both running dry and pulling hate.

What a strong tank requires from a shitty support group. 2 Buff songs, shell and haste. Slow and elegy is nice, most support can handle that to, but it isnt really a dealbreakaer if you can manage the whm to haste and shell and the brd to sing 2 songs. Yelling can ensure you get this from even the shittiest support.

Do i really need to tell you what a whm needs from a shitty tank to survive?

But sure, in both events, shit can happen and things can go wrong. They are just way more likely to happen when you have a shitty tank. And sure, the better the support is, the easier it is for the tank to hover at the hate-ceiling, allowing your DD's to keep a higher pace.

BUt the jist of the thing is, a good tank is WAY more important then a good supportgroup.
 
Rappa said:
Right, and his name is Caerloc, since obviously you don't even know what the word means. Do you enjoy failing or are you just incredibly good at it?
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Do you enjoy pulling things out of context and try to make them into stuff they arent? I noticed that from last time. I can also tell that you are a bit butthurt cause it didnt go so well, and you really wanna get even. But really, you gotta find something better to say then "U fail cuz i say u fails".
 
Snealy, go moose someone.
 
Rappa said:
So it took you an essay to just agree with me and tell me I'm right? k
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See, there you go, pulling things out of context again. Why didnt you quote the full sentence? But no matter. Like i told Amerie i think it was. It takes an absolute retard to try and pull things out of context, when the context is RIGHT FUCKING ABOVE.
 
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