Different ideas for pt set ups

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Ive been thinking bout the basic pt set up and gettin quiet bored with it so was wondering bout some other set ups. Im sure someone has tried these setups and im hopin that at least some of then will work.

Ive been think that ppl say pld/nin isnt good for xp pts but I dont see the problem.... Yes the pld doesnt have provoke but there are other ways to solve that problem. One idea is to get 2 thfs or have the melee DDs sub thf mainly for post 60 jobs. Id say a sam/thf, thf, and a drk/thf should be pretty effective in helpin the tank hold hate. Thats 3 TAs with potential TS WSs somewhat like a provoke every 20 sec. Ofcourse this would take some organization but I see this very doible and effective. Then you can have a rdm as a main healer with a blm and thats a effective MB. Then the drk can safely spam souleater when ever they want cuz itll only help the pld keep hate. A pld doesnt need ni necesarliy with haste and there defensive skills not to mention xtra DD from dual wield I think that can work just fine. Sam has meditate so theyll be able to TA WS almost every time if they have really good gear. So thats 3 DDs thf and pld/nin count as one total DD.

I have other ideas ill be posting but I want other ppls opinion on why this would or wouldnt work and if you have personal expereince with a similar set up plz share it
 
O go take your god damn manaburn pt to hell DAMN YOU AND YOUR CONSISTANT 10K+ PER HOUR KISS MY RANGER ASS.
 
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I love PT set ups like this;

PLD
DRK
BRD
RNG
WHM
BLM

I've done well over 8-10k/hr pts with that set up, if they all work well and co-operate... it can be a great pt set up :P
 
I'd be interested in trying a warrior stacked party at my level. I know WAR cannons have been done in the 70's, but I'd like to see it in action at my level. I did try inviting a 2 other warriors to a party once, but the third declined my invite. I think it would've been 3x war, whm, blm, rdm.

Aside from cannon parties and 4-6 of one job what else would be worth trying?

I'll admit, it is hard to think outside of the tank-healer-refresher-DD cookie cutter. Even though that might be the most effective, something completely different might be a lot of fun. I'll think about this for a bit and get back to you.
 
Ok, came up with 2. Neither would be optimal xp/hour and would have some downtime. Would also require a LOT of coordination and competent players. But they also sound pretty fun to try.

1 mage of any kind, except blm that can act as healer. Hate pulled from nukes might mess up the balance. 5 different melee DD classes subbing war (unless 1 of those is war main). Each DD would voke, take a hit or two, and the next would voke. With a 30 second cooldown divided by 5 vokes, theoretically you could turn the mob's attention every 6 seconds. Not the best, but it could work if no one expects 5k/hour.


This next one is a little more interesting and much more feasible. 1 brd/smn (stoneskin, blink, rolling thunder, whatever). Will only have 2-3 songs to cast, so resting after a BP isn't an issue. 1 WAR/MNK or /NIN to tank, preferably Elvaan or Galka but Hume would probably also work. Finally, 4 Tarutaru melee DD subbing whm to do all the healing (taking turns to keep hate spread). Once again, would take 6 competent players and lots of patience. Sounds like it would be a lot of fun, but not necessarily a great xp/hour ratio.

The standard setups yield some of the stablest xp, but I think it would be fun to ignore the big shiny numbers for a night or two and head out with some friends to try something different.


EDIT:
Ok, I'm lying in bed thinking about what I've just posted. I think I'd actually like to try #2, so I'll be making a post in Event Scheduling. If anyone is interested in joining me, drop by this thread
http://www.qcdn.org/showthread.php?t=22221
 
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I personally want to try :

NIN/WAR
MNK/THF
MNK/THF
MNK/THF
WHM/SMN
BRD/SMN

NIN to tank, MNK/THFs to own with damage, especially with SATA to the NIN, WHM/SMN to heal, haste, and stoneskin party, BRD/SMN for accuracy and attack and take turns with WHM to stoneskin party.

Too bad when I get a party with a NIN, MNK, WHM, BRD.. I can't get 2 other MNKs to say OK.

I like partying with my MNK (Clocian) and DRG (Dalron). They kick ass on skill chains. x.x;
 
Bah remove sub thf for monks and sub nin and you will do a good canon party in Sky
 
Mortanius said:
1 mage of any kind, except blm that can act as healer. Hate pulled from nukes might mess up the balance. 5 different melee DD classes subbing war (unless 1 of those is war main). Each DD would voke, take a hit or two, and the next would voke. With a 30 second cooldown divided by 5 vokes, theoretically you could turn the mob's attention every 6 seconds. Not the best, but it could work if no one expects 5k/hour.
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I've done this as the lone mage. Its hellish and I'll never do it again. If you want your mage to keep his sanity, do not do this :P

Yesterday my pt setup was NIN NIN NIN RDM WHM SAM. We did pretty good chain5'ing VT's in kuftal.
 
Atrbiohazard said:
I personally want to try :

NIN/WAR
MNK/THF
MNK/THF
MNK/THF
WHM/SMN
BRD/SMN

NIN to tank, MNK/THFs to own with damage, especially with SATA to the NIN, WHM/SMN to heal, haste, and stoneskin party, BRD/SMN for accuracy and attack and take turns with WHM to stoneskin party.

Too bad when I get a party with a NIN, MNK, WHM, BRD.. I can't get 2 other MNKs to say OK.

I like partying with my MNK (Clocian) and DRG (Dalron). They kick ass on skill chains. x.x;
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yea that would suck.
 
I would just like to say using pld/nin to tank with a bunch of /thf to hold hate is stupid because trick attack isn't 100% when subbed and 2 thieves could do a better job using the assassin job trait to constantly trick attack each other. Not only that but thf evasion is the highest evasion in the game compared to pld which is more suited to getting hit and laughing at the monsters for tickling them.
 
reddogneo said:
Ive been think that ppl say pld/nin isnt good for xp pts but I dont see the problem.... Yes the pld doesnt have provoke but there are other ways to solve that problem. One idea is to get 2 thfs or have the melee DDs sub thf mainly for post 60 jobs. Id say a sam/thf, thf, and a drk/thf should be pretty effective in helpin the tank hold hate
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You're gimping the damage of your melee in order to keep hate on a pld, in order for your pld to get hit a few less times each fight. A single thf/nin would be enough to stick hate on a pld/nin in the 37-50 range or so, just need an initial voker. I often went entire fights in that range as nin/war without using voke against weak to piercing mobs when partied with a thf, and never had hate issues.
 
pld rdm brd blm blm blm... if your rdm is as wicked as dakko and can keep the whole pt refreshed this setup will knock out mobs way WAY *WAY* over your heads... pre-empress band numbers like chains 3 and up are all 450-ish on the right mobs nonstop action. could prolly be done with a ninja but regardless the exp was literally non-stop ownage for... say.. 50something-72.
 
my favorite silly not normal party was like this


thf/thf/war/war/smn/blm


we set it up with SATA on the monster with SC and MBs like this, this was a lvl 36 party


thf/war/mob/war/thf

with the smn on healing and DD and the BLM MBing about twice per battle round. We made so much exp :)
 
Every mnk I have ever talked to or pted with will bitch to high hell about having to sub THF because their dmg becomes gimp. They will do it if need be but there are better jobs to assign as the SATA whore.
 
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