Don't support gimpage!

hahaha how do pplget this high gimpd? -.-

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Blackmagik said:
hahaha how do pplget this high gimpd? -.-

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my guess is he played nin/blm atleast i hope so that some major gimpage

as for the blm/mnk been seeing this all to much people not wantling lvl sub because it take to much time and money. :roll:
But must people will say that exp and exp and will invite them any way.
and by looks of her gear she dont do farming either though maybe she did because she did have 2 earring and 1 ring which is better then some ive seen. <my brother include he was a 30whm with dex ring almost slap him silly then bought him some mind rings and let him use my astral becaus I dont use it anymore unless I play whm or blm
 
well...

why wouldnt someone /anon that....not that I support gimpage...i believe everyone should have their job made out to be the best but....Holy Promathia that shit is just embarrassing!!!
 
Danitoth said:
Alright to clear things up, i started 7 days ago....i started as a black mage and im like hey "this is pretty fun, blm is pretty powerful." So then i get to lvl 18 i did the subjob quest and was like, hmm i need more mp, maybe ill go lvl a whm. So on the run back to windurst i thought it would be cool to be a monk/war. so i got to windurst and changed to lvl 1 monk lvl 1 war. Then i lvled the monk to lvl 10. And i thought to myself, im going to go drg/sam do doubts, that is what i want. So i changed back to blm seeing as its my highest lvl there for i will get to 30 the quickest so i can get drg. But then i think to myself "hey nobody will want to group with a 18 blm/ 1 whm so i changed my sub to my second highest lvl, monk, hey atleast this way ill get some hp and not die. My equipment sucks because ive been doing nothing but lvling so i have no money at all to buy new equipment and i dont know what i can farm as a lvl 27 mage. So just bear with me ppl until i hit lvl 30, then go drgn. I wont be gimp then, i promise....im not new to the mmorpg ive been playing eq for 2 years.......so im not that bad ppl, just wait 3 lvls!!
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Oh... then it all makes sense.... /mnk so you get used to waiting for invites, I get it now.

Good job! :?
 
Blackmagik said:
hahaha how do pplget this high gimpd? -.-

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That's not a noob. That's a gil seller. If you check the rest of the zone you would have seen an entire party of rank 1 with mostly underleveled subs. Similar names too. I saw the party in Korrokola tunnel about a week again and they were only level 18ish then.

Kat said:
Danitoth said:
Alright to clear things up, i started 7 days ago....i started as a black mage and im like hey "this is pretty fun, blm is pretty powerful." So then i get to lvl 18 i did the subjob quest and was like, hmm i need more mp, maybe ill go lvl a whm. So on the run back to windurst i thought it would be cool to be a monk/war. so i got to windurst and changed to lvl 1 monk lvl 1 war. Then i lvled the monk to lvl 10. And i thought to myself, im going to go drg/sam do doubts, that is what i want. So i changed back to blm seeing as its my highest lvl there for i will get to 30 the quickest so i can get drg. But then i think to myself "hey nobody will want to group with a 18 blm/ 1 whm so i changed my sub to my second highest lvl, monk, hey atleast this way ill get some hp and not die. My equipment sucks because ive been doing nothing but lvling so i have no money at all to buy new equipment and i dont know what i can farm as a lvl 27 mage. So just bear with me ppl until i hit lvl 30, then go drgn. I wont be gimp then, i promise....im not new to the mmorpg ive been playing eq for 2 years.......so im not that bad ppl, just wait 3 lvls!!
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Ignorance is not an excuse. He has even played other MMO's and admits he knew he was gimped. All he has done is make excuses for being a gimp player and in the future, he will just give more excuses on why its all right to be a gimp player. It is in your own best interest to NOT be a gimp. Having a proper and leveled sub will get you more invites sooner and should(not always the case, this is where skill comes in) amount to better and faster experience. If the experience is better then he/she should level faster and everyone in the party is happy. If he/she levels faster, then he/she will get the advanced jobs FASTER which is his entire argument for being a gimp. So this is NOT an excuse.

Fellina said:
My advice for starting players has always been the same. Once you hit 18, LEVEL YOUR SUB. Even if it's a slow job to level like WHM, you can knock down EP non-stop til at least 12 to 15, which is all you need to take to 30. The recent patch tweaking EP experience rewards made this even easier, and you'll make enough in crystals alone to cover most of your equipment to 30 in any job.

Not all players have been happy to hear this. They don't want to spend ONE WHOLE DAY puttering around on a subjob. Well, that's too bad. This game is a timesink, no getting around that. If you don't like the fact that you can't take a single job to 75 without having to worry about (sometimes multiple) subs, farming, quests, etc. then this is NOT the game for you.

Oh, and one last thing- the "I'm only levelling this to 30 so I can unlock my REAL job" thing doesn't fly with me either. 90% of the time, when someone has said that to me, they're playing an entirely different job in two weeks. So level other jobs, even if you think it's not your "dream job"- odds are you'll enjoy playing the other jobs almost as much, if not more.
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In total agreement. Having a proper and leveled sub improves the game and your experience earned. A MNK sub does nothing for a BLM. I believe you need to be engaged to have counter work and MNK gives no INT or MP boost. Any other mage job even at level 1 would have been more beneficial. The level 1 WHM sub would provide 3 more mp and atleast given Cure 1. WHM although the most tedious job to solo of all jobs is still not difficult to get from level 1-12. Since you had blm already leveled it would have been far easier with the subjob.

And before people get mad at me for saying "proper" subjobs, there is a reason. Not all jobs are practical together and there is no real dispute. A WHM sub suits almost all mage job subs the best although some people can get away with other subs. All tanks are best suited with WAR subs. Almost all melee jobs should level warrior and/or ninja for a sub. At certain levels thief and samurai are possible options. I only make these blanket statements because they are the most practical. A WHM sub gives better cures and allows for a multitude of status ailment cures(-na spells). A WAR sub gives provoke which is the best tool for tanks to keep hate. A melee can use the warrior sub to provoke when a tank needs a little help or for a thief to land SATA. A ninja sub helps with dual wield for tp build up and shadows to block damage. The reason people follow these simple patterns is because they have been found to be the best solution to get experience and that is the entire point of an experience party. Having a gimped sub is an insult to your entire party since they all took the time and effort to level their jobs and get proper subjobs.

I do not argue that a BLM/MNK or any other unorthodox combination cannot work, but if you have two identical people, one with WHM sub and the other with MNK, the MNK will always be the last choice. Take two identical parties except one with a BLM/WHM and the other BLM/MNK and I guarantee the BLM/WHM party will could get more experience than the BLM/MNK party.
 
he was in a pt with his ls in CN... 3 ninjas in CN o.o odd , he was the only gimp too
 
That nin/5war has gil seller written all over it. The name, the rank, and the idiotic level 5 war so he has provoke. Of course, "Do you have any proof he's a gil seller?" Well, no. But then he's just one of huge noob.

Doesn't surprise me... you still see players at the higher levels getting parties with useless subs in parties (Meleeing Rdm/nin's are my pet peeve because they always seem to suck). I think there are people that deviate from the norm and will have all the excuses in the world. Whether or not they're valid... <shrug> :roll:
 
Agreed, I witnessed while passing through Garlaige Citadel the other day a complete gil seller party.

And it was perhaps the funniest thing i've ever seen

Both ninja's had lizzard armor still, with only utsusemi: Ichi, and both had war subs to level 5.

The others were mages with more craptacular gear, and a nice plvler, Furyrush.

...lol.

Need I say more?
 
WOOT! I made the Screen Shot. Go me, go me. I'd like to thank Sneezy for being in my party and I was waving to them. and I'd like to thank Utsemi:ichi for making playing as a WAR fun. Also I gotta give it up to all the gimps because without you this SS wouldn't of been taken and posted here.
 
If you're gonna go DRG you'll need WHM and WAR subs leveled anyway. You should've quit playing BLM once you got to 18 and got sub quest, and switched to WHM to 30. Poor gear would be somewhat more forgiveable then, and you'd have a full and worthwhile sub all the way to 30.

But "Oh I'm not going to play this job past 30" is NOT a valid excuse for such a completely worthless subjob and gear.

If you want to make some easy lowbie cash, level a few low level jobs from 1-7ish either in Sarutabaruta (crawlers drop Silk Thread, and Crawler Calculus/Smooth Stone can be used for a Windurst quest) or Gustaberg (Grain and Vegetable seeds sell very well, grain is at about 20k now at least in Sandy)...
 
the problem of gimpage is widespread and has always been so. as long as the aprent gimpage does not affect my exp one way or another they can go about playing this game as they please.


Taylorfw was a white mage i met while exp'ing my blm between the levels of fourty and fifty. he was the gimp king gear wise... subjob wise.... spellwise... however his lack of equipment and certain spells while in exp was hardly noticed. why? he had prioritized his spell load to make it work economically for the amount of play time he had and the amount of time he could spend farming. he carefully chose his gear as he could to be very economical and as effective as limited funds would allow. for spells he did not get the extra spells... his ability to use the spells and equipment he needed made him effective, if not as effective as someone with gil, as a party member.

He is now a decenlty pimped out smn with all his spells and all the skillz he needs....

I have noticed subjob gimpage is in most respects reffering to underleveled sub of the correct or accepted job. i've noticed when i switch my sub to monk which is level one at 75 i love like 40 mp, a few points of mind 0 int and actually mostly just hp.. i have determined on previous instances that there were in fact very few differences in my ability as a functional party member when i used to static with blm on the days(there were 2) i forgot to change my subjob off ranger 1.

my point is.... go stuff it if you don't like his damn subjob, it's quite obvious you have no idea of the impact of the subjob displayed there on the actual party performance of the person. he's lost like 8 mp and probably gained more in hp... i'm not condoning it, i don't approve... but i definately don't think anyones rampant fear of gimpage will help solve anything. everyone has a responsibility to be as strong as they can be for themselves and for others. how they percieve the acceptable standard i leave to them.

i get all speachy at 3:05 AM.... i'm gonna regret saying this in the morning. especially the part about blm/rng 1 cause mara, aedin, seig and asia never found out ^^;;

the only real gimps i've ever found were people WITH the gear and the gil and the subjobs who just couldn't do their goddamn jobs.... so a solid 80% of the rdm population.. among others... if you're a rdm and feel this is wrong count yourself under the 20% and don't waste your energy flaming me in response... i've been through this discussion before and it's unrelated to the post here....

<.<;;;

The best exp pt of my life i exp'd with a rdm, my gear was about standard... he had all HQ to the max (the first time i'd seen someone with all the HQ staves, a moldavite... morion +1 genius swear to god +1 rings... ect), his magic bursts were as powerful as mine especially since we were bursting water which we bother only had level 3 of.[/u]
 
I just thought I'd update, I xp'd with this individual tonight in the dunes. She was rdm/blm, no gimped sub and she had decent equip for a new player. So it seems, something good actually came from this thread :)
 
deathsvengeance said:
I just thought I'd update, I xp'd with this individual tonight in the dunes. She was rdm/blm, no gimped sub and she had decent equip for a new player. So it seems, something good actually came from this thread :)
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Bull crap, u'll never stop me and my Brd/blm from lvl'n!!
 
Joined a kazham party today with a guy named Gecko... 25WHM/10DRG with no back, belt or neck, bone earrings and level 10 dex rings. The party leader passed it to me and I replaced him with a non-gimp, and Gecko asked my why as if he was surprised. So i gave him about 10 reasons he shouldn't be partying and all he had to say was "wtf man i dont even get new gear until 27 ur ass is getting MPKd."
 
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