DRGs are worthless said the blind man . . .

That's what I meant Ron. Without THF sub, DRK=dead lol
 
Jagster and ibariba.I had hauberk at like 65 and didn't wear it til 69.I have snipers for a long while and sold my last one a few weeks ago

You have a Hauby and don't wear it because? Yet in other posts you've said you don't have it, dont' change your story.

I think i should start calling every blm and whm gimp if they don't have that serket ring and the royal/vermillion cloak, astral earring and that shield that drops in gustav tunnel

This isn't the same comparsion, melee without certain equips are gimp, no ifs,ands,buts. During the high levels snipers and such aren't extras, they're needed to not be gimp. A mage lacking a seket ring or whatever doesn't make them gimp, it's just a fancy extra that takes them from acceptable and average to awsome. It's not the same with melee equipment, especially with the more competion a melee has to deal with. If you don't mind being a pee on 2nd rate player because you're lacking critical things, than be my guest, but don't try and cover it up.


Wars have more natural accuracy than a drk i believe,with accuracy all over the armor i need str,dex and attack.

Ok no idea what you're talking about here...Both jobs have A+ and A- in a certain weapon, and identical dex and armor options. Granted wars do have the nice aggreser move thingy, but that can't always be kept up.

WIth optical hat accuracy shouldn't be a problem

So gimp to 70 then improve from there?

The reason I attacked you is not because of your gil/armor situation, but it's how you try to avoid the facts. You're in complete denial, instead of oweing up to your flaws you try and bullshit your way out by be-littling these very helpful pieces of equipment.
 
Strid said:
meeze said:
btw

rng>all non casters

Just a quick fact to probably make your head big... It is FACT RNG>BLM in the end so you could change your comment to RNG>ALL and be correct :)

Was this sarcasm? 8)
 
wolfskymoon said:
Jagster and ibariba.I had hauberk at like 65 and didn't wear it til 69.I have snipers for a long while and sold my last one a few weeks ago ( i Have and had enough accuracy on collar hand and other parts... and i know my job better than a blm.I think i should start calling every blm and whm gimp if they don't have that serket ring and the royal/vermillion cloak, astral earring and that shield that drops in gustav tunnel .In the end it would turn out that u have less downtime with a taru whm as compared to other races.Wars have more natural accuracy than a drk i believe,with accuracy all over the armor i need str,dex and attack.WIth optical hat accuracy shouldn't be a problem.If you are that concerned with my armor how about u come and give me a hand with hakutaku eh? instead of sitting on ur ass and commenting about ppl's armor.


This post is really cute, once again you just proved that you gimped yourself for many levels by NOT using key equips, please check the parts I put in bold for you and read thoroughly as there is alot. You may have had it at 65, but you COULD NOT use it until 69 so... WTF, YOU WENT 8 LEVELS FROM 59-67 WITHOUT AN IMPORTANT PIECE OR ARMOR FOR THIS TIME (probably about 260,000k XP at the time)????????

My first comment was actually for you at 62, and as to why you got kicked, and the reason. I'm glad you mentioned more of these details because it proves me more right. I checked you at 62 AFTER you got booted from the PT for whiffing against Toramas. I could not understand how an elvaan WARRIOR of all jobs could go 5 levels IN THE 60'S without more important body armor and refuse to, and throw a fit over it in port jeuno wishing death on people irl. So thats right you did it gimped, and to be honest not that I care, but I was pointing out simply why you got kicked.

So to the specifics: Assault jerkin is 67....you got a hauberk at 65 cool can't use that till 69, so what armor did you wear from 59-67 before the jerkin... hmm?? :o


Anyways, your point about the optical hat is pointless, as I called you out on a time prior to you even needing that armor, I'm talking specifically from the time youve stated, levels 61-65, and 65-69 now. (See bold above that you said you got it at 65)
The mage comments are even lamer, as most of those are status items... NOT items that will allow a mage to have a higher percentage of ATTACK & ACCURACY, which are TWO IMPORTANT STATS FOR YOUR JOB




Here lemme requote everything for you too so you can see that you yourself gimped PT's of experience points:

wolfskymoon said:
Atleast u didn't get booted for not having a 2 million gil body armor?.Note i did have assault jerkin and all that accuracy gear... but fags like oldsmobeast can't get enough in RL ,so boot ppl to feel in control for a second.So i guess that drk was just retarded fool who doesn't know about another job.

My responce to you being booted, you had craptastic armors, no +str/atk, no haubergeon, i think agi rings:


Ibariba said:
Let's see, I remember you getting booted at about level 62. Assault jerkin at 62? Please dont lie and waste people's time, do us all a favor and go away if you are going to makes these types of claims because you didnt have any acc things on at the time. Please note the level on Jerkin ->

Assault-Jerkin.jpg


Here YOU ADMIT TO NOT HAVING KEY EQUIP and proving me right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


wolfskymoon said:
I got assault jerkin at 61 (i know ppl who can confirm that...)

wolfskymoon said:
Lmao i had royal guard's collar the 3 accuracy mufflers and all that stuff at like 60 or something i think... still dunno what u are talking about.I GOT ASSAULT JERKIN AT LEVEL 61 from ose.Thats why i didn't wanna buy haubergeon (59)

wolfskymoon said:
Sorry for the third post.. but a mage doesn't really know what key equip for another melee job is...



I am glad I am not the only one who see's the irony:

Firestreak said:
But you can't wear the assault jerkin until 67, so how does it excuse you from getting decent gear all those levels up unto it? Having it off Ose is nice but what does it matter if you can't even wear it? It's kind of like me saying... "I've got this kickass level 50 Great Axe so I'm not going to bother upgrading my axe's level 40-50.
Sorry for the third post.. but a mage doesn't really know what key equip for another melee job is...

Sheesh, for this attitude you seem to forget you're NOT a mage. Once you hit 67 you can sell your old gear and get your money back. Mages can't sell back their old scrolls.



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ok guys, you are confusing two pieces of equipment here.

Haubergeon

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?fitem=2367
Auction House: Armor - Body
Slot: Body
Def: 45 STR: 5 DEX: 5 AGI: -5
Accuracy: 10, Attack: 10, Evasion: -20
Jobs: Beastmaster, Dark Knight, Ninja, Paladin, Samurai, Warrior
Races: ALL
Level to Use: 59

Hauberk
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?fitem=3353
Auction House: Armor - Body
Slot: Body
Def: 47 STR: 5 DEX: 5
Accuracy: 10, Attack: 10, Evasion: -10
Jobs: Beastmaster, Dark Knight, Warrior
Races: ALL
Level to Use: 69
 
actually i dont have them confused, which is my point. He had armor 4 levels before he could use it rather than for the 6 levels he should have been using another, which is what he pointed out in his first comment about Olds....
 
Lanien said:
Hecate said:
I haven't partied with many Drgs... but when I have they seemed... lacking. But thats just who I've encountered. I know DRGs can be completely kick ass if they're good enough with the right equips etc. But I want to say that there aren't many of those types. :( I just need to party with a good QCDN DRG :wink:

Get to 67 and I'll show you how a good Dragoon can play :roll: At least I like to think I am good. :D

Yes. Lanien is good :p
 
Kirayamato said:
Lanien said:
Hecate said:
I haven't partied with many Drgs... but when I have they seemed... lacking. But thats just who I've encountered. I know DRGs can be completely kick ass if they're good enough with the right equips etc. But I want to say that there aren't many of those types. :( I just need to party with a good QCDN DRG :wink:

Get to 67 and I'll show you how a good Dragoon can play :roll: At least I like to think I am good. :D

Yes. Lanien is good :p

thank you bud :D
 
U don't even know the difference between haubergeon and hauberk.All u know is hauby hauby hauby.Its funny that a blm a pld and a freaking thief w/e is telling me what i need :lol: And yes i'm gonna spend 2 mil gil on my body armor where ever i want to cuz i know which stats i lacked.And yeh i'm gonna bring up the "mage" comments when a mage tells me what i need.... I doubt u even know the effects on a tungi axe .....that i had at that time.Ofcrouse all whms need vermillion cloak and serket earring... WHY DON"T U HAVE IT? GO GET IT U REALLY NEED IT TRUST ME.Get peacock charm also since u need it real bad ok?.
i mean technically a taru nin and a galka mage have alot lower stats for the job they are going for..
 
And yeh once again lol jagster u didnt even know haubergeon and hauberk are two different chest pieces... and lol u are telling me what i need?
 
Ok serket ring is fancy but haubergeon is not? WHy?? Haubergeon is the best armor in game for a melee its awesome.The assault jerkin and the other armor that u are calling gimp is actually above normal.Explain plz since u are not looking at the pricetag why not get the vermillion cloak serket ring and astral earring eh?
 
I've seen quite a lot of people call both a "hauby". I myself call the Haubergeon a hauby, but I can easily see myself calling the Hauberk a hauby too.. same letters.. hell, they are almost the same peice of armor.

So when you have a lot of people calling two different items by the same name, its not really all that hard to start confusing the two. Which is what happened to some extent here.
 
Ok now i remember.We had a dragoon/whm in our testimony party and i was impressed how useful his whm subjob was.I never knew it till then and i was deciding to level drg/whm =) its fun.
 
wolfskymoon said:
U don't even know the difference between haubergeon and hauberk.All u know is hauby hauby hauby.Its funny that a blm a pld and a freaking thief w/e is telling me what i need :lol: And yes i'm gonna spend 2 mil gil on my body armor where ever i want to cuz i know which stats i lacked.And yeh i'm gonna bring up the "mage" comments when a mage tells me what i need.... I doubt u even know the effects on a tungi axe .....that i had at that time.Ofcrouse all whms need vermillion cloak and serket earring... WHY DON"T U HAVE IT? GO GET IT U REALLY NEED IT TRUST ME.Get peacock charm also since u need it real bad ok?.
i mean technically a taru nin and a galka mage have alot lower stats for the job they are going for..


wolfskymoon said:
And yeh once again lol jagster u didnt even know haubergeon and hauberk are two different chest pieces... and lol u are telling me what i need?


wolfskymoon said:
Ok serket ring is fancy but haubergeon is not? WHy?? Haubergeon is the best armor in game for a melee its awesome.The assault jerkin and the other armor that u are calling gimp is actually above normal.Explain plz since u are not looking at the pricetag why not get the vermillion cloak serket ring and astral earring eh?



Wow, you can't read, can you?

Anyways, I have replied to you coherently twice, you rambled off three random posts each time thereafter, so PLEASE try and READ. I'm sure in your frenzied state you can do this:



#1 I am NOT A BLM/PLD/ OR THF

#2 You should have spent 2M on a Haubergeon @ 59, and NOT been gimp from levels 59-67. You even say it is awesome, so why did you NOT have it!!!!!!!! I really don't care if you had a Assault Jerkin at 61, it isn't doing you any good until 67. I can get an assault jerkin for my lv 1 mule, should I not level with any decent armor for 67 levels?? Your first post said you were kicked unfairly for not having a Haubergeon and etc, and I don't find that unjust like you do and I'll tell you why at #5.

#3 I never said Assault Jerkin was gimp, I said YOU WERE gimp from levels 59-67 BEFORE YOUR JERKIN OR HAUBERK.

#4 I do not need V. Cloak, Serket Ring, and Astral Ring(s) as a mage because not once at the end of a PT did I ever think, gee, I need MORE MP. I am not Galka nor Elvaan (not to be discrimatory either :) )

#5 The PT I would be in would be EFFICIENT and everyone would have APPROPRIATE gear to MINIMIZE DOWNTIME in order to keep the PT moving onward smoothly. One person NOT working this way ruins the XP for everyone...and in that PT I was told it was you. Do you get it or does this still not make sense to you?

Oh wait, you know your job better than me, sorry I forgot, not that I dont have a melee job levelled either. :roll:
 
Lanien said:
Kirayamato said:
Lanien said:
Hecate said:
I haven't partied with many Drgs... but when I have they seemed... lacking. But thats just who I've encountered. I know DRGs can be completely kick ass if they're good enough with the right equips etc. But I want to say that there aren't many of those types. :( I just need to party with a good QCDN DRG :wink:

Get to 67 and I'll show you how a good Dragoon can play :roll: At least I like to think I am good. :D

Yes. Lanien is good :p

thank you bud :D

Unlike those cry babies.. you got good gear, great personality and know your priorities as a DRG ^-^
 
Kiraya, if you were referring to myself and Brin, both of us have good gear, Brin even better than mine (He's a bit better off gilwise than I am). Better than half the shitty ass DRG I've seen on this server wear anyhow. So perhaps you didn't agree with our opinion, so be it, but don't go slinging along insults such as this one, when you have no basis for such an argument.

I'd rather be a whiny crybaby than an arrogant prick any day.

Undoubtedly there will be some gay/pussy/jerk/<insert generic lower level player insult here> detailing about how much more you know about DRG than I do. That may be, but I take the time to read as much as I can about all the jobs I play, DRG being the one I know most about.

I've heard conflicting opinions my friend. There's on one hand the people who walk around with the opionion that DRG sucks post 60, and that they never warrant an invite to any party. On the other hand there are people who believe that DRG is a force to be reckoned with all the way until endgame.

I don't see why we aren't agreeing to disagree. Neither of us are budging on the subject, and I don't know about you, but I have no interest in a giant flame war over something so trivial. I've tried to let the whole thing die, but you keep making comments like the one in your last post (which was undoubtedly directed at myself and Brin).
 
I've seen quite a lot of people call both a "hauby". I myself call the Haubergeon a hauby, but I can easily see myself calling the Hauberk a hauby too.. same letters.. hell, they are almost the same peice of armor.

So when you have a lot of people calling two different items by the same name, its not really all that hard to start confusing the two. Which is what happened to some extent here.

Ya simple mistake, *shurg*, it happens.

I really don't need to explain myself though because wolfskymoon is stupid a retard gimp without critcal armor pieces who types like an ape. And WSM, maybe you should take advice from this thief, because I'm not a waste of a damage dealer and don't get kicked out of parties for being <Too weak>. Not even a thief would ever bother wearing agi rings, goodjob!

#2 You should have spent 2M on a Haubergeon @ 59, and NOT been gimp from levels 59-67. You even say it is awesome, so why did you NOT have it!!!!!!!! I really don't care if you had a Assault Jerkin at 61, it isn't doing you any good until 67. I can get an assault jerkin for my lv 1 mule, should I not level with any decent armor for 67 levels?? Your first post said you were kicked unfairly for not having a Haubergeon and etc, and I don't find that unjust like you do and I'll tell you why at #5.

#3 I never said Assault Jerkin was gimp, I said YOU WERE gimp from levels 59-67 BEFORE YOUR JERKIN OR HAUBERK.

#4 I do not need V. Cloak, Serket Ring, and Astral Ring(s) as a mage because not once at the end of a PT did I ever think, gee, I need MORE MP. I am not Galka nor Elvaan (not to be discrimatory either )

#5 The PT I would be in would be EFFICIENT and everyone would have APPROPRIATE gear to MINIMIZE DOWNTIME in order to keep the PT moving onward smoothly. One person NOT working this way ruins the XP for everyone...and in that PT I was told it was you. Do you get it or does this still not make sense to you?

Agreed, although I would argue with #3, for war,sam,drk, I think jerkin is a waste compared to the hauberk and hauby, therefore WSM is still gimp :lol: 10attk and 5str clearly will help more than +17 attack or whatever from the jerkin, and then figure in the acc+, then it becomes a no brainer, that WSM is clearly an idiot.

WSM probably did this server an injustice by not letting a dragoon or thief having the jerkin, jobs that actually benefit from this piece because we can't equip the haub and hauberk. Him lotting and getting an assault jerkin was as useful as letting a blm have it, he's a selfish moron.
 
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