dubbing anime

Lol that's 'cause you haven't heard Shino, he sounds like he's gonna kill you with his bugs the moment you turn around O_O
 
Jrglu said:
Lol that's 'cause you haven't heard Shino, he sounds like he's gonna kill you with his bugs the moment you turn around O_O
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That's because he just might... he's a creepy guy, his whole family is. That's about the nicest way to describe a family who lets bugs crawl around inside their bodies.
 
There are very very few animes that are dubbed well, or make the transition from Japanese to English well for that matter (damn you editor's)... Like... less then 5. Cowboy Beebop and Full Metal Panic are the only two that come to mind.
 
Most of the anime that's coming out nowadays(and for the last couple years, really) is being dubbed well. Yes, there will always be something lost in the translation, but that doesn't mean the dub is automatically bad. Now that there's an actual mainstream market for it, companies are actually doing a good job(not 4kids, obviously). You must have ridiculously high standards(or you haven't seen anything but 4kids one piece in the last year or so) if you're saying there's at most 5 good dubs out there.
 
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Bajaratt said:
Most of the anime that's coming out nowadays(and for the last couple years, really) is being dubbed well. Yes, there will always be something lost in the translation, but that doesn't mean the dub is automatically bad. Now that there's an actual mainstream market for it, companies are actually doing a good job(not 4kids, obviously). You must have ridiculously high standards(or you haven't seen anything but 4kids one piece in the last year or so) if you're saying there's at most 5 good dubs out there.
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I highly agree with Baj here. I've watched mostly dubbed anime and I have watched a lot... of it. Different series, not just the one's I own, but ones that have come on cable television shows such as Toonami (when it was good) and Adult Swim (when it kicked more ass). This includes early anime's I first was introduced to way back when Sci-Fi used to have Saturday morning anime. Which I think they do show anime nowadays again.. after a looong stretch of not showing any accept on occasion.

Anyway, point is, there's a lot of very well dubbed anime out there. Unless your standards are just set incredibly high so that just because its not subbed its crap. (retarded logic) Or that perhaps the dubbing isn't close enough to the japanese characters voice. Which is silly, we're not japanese.. so in mostly all cases.. its going to be difficult to recreate the same tone as the japanese voice actor. But as voice acting in north america goes. There's been a vast improvement. I still enjoy a good dub any day.

But seriously, you can find good quality dubs even in older animes. So it's not like we magically got better. It's pretty much that now there is more of a market (as Baj said), so there's more emphasis on quality and thank goodness for that. We don't need anymore 'Tekken The Movie' quality dubs. If you haven't seen that one.. you might want to, so you can know what a real taste of awful voice acting is.

As an example; If you watch Naruto and think that dubbing is bad, it's really not. Now I wont go to say that it's great, but it is good and from what ive seen they've stayed very close to the original dialogue. And since Dattebayo has no real translation... "Believe it" fits just fine.. and is pretty much as effective and kinda makes a little sense.... a little. That being said, I don't really watch much of the dubbed Naruto, though i have seen some. I watched nearly all of the original Naruto subbed, save the early episodes.. I actually got started watching the dub on toonami whenever i'd happen to catch it. But they didn't move fast enough, as the series was still being dubbed and still is. So I watched the remaining episodes (I must have left off around episode 30something) subbed on places like youtube before youtube started being gay and deleting whole length episodes of popular anime.

Now I watch Shippuuden dubbed as soon as it comes out, infact I finally got around to watching the eps 29-30 special that came out thursday (dub release was on friday) this morning. Was gewd.
 
Ive noticed most of the anime movies, and some of the series' have good dubs, at least imo. Personally, I would much rather watch a dubbed anime than not, unless the dubbing is just absolutely horrendous. Id like to watch and listen, not read every word theyre saying. Not to mention the times when there are 4 lines of text that only stay on screen for about 2 seconds, so you need to pause the film to read it, lol..
 
There are very few dubs that I can stand to watch. Even with foreign movies, I prefer the subtitles. The original versions have a different atmosphere and capture the director's view.

Then there is dubbing just to be silly such as Pine Salad (doesn't exist anymore) and the YuGiOh abridged series. That does not bother me unless it is badly done or is not funny.

Dubbing in games has gotten a little better. Maybe these industries have finally noticed not to pick up random people off the street to do vocal acting. Good old dubbing was rare about ten or more years ago. I also like that many games started giving the option of which vocal settings to use in the cut scenes.

I might sound out of date because I really have not paid much attention to anime in years and the newer titles do not spark as much interest as they used to.

It is a matter of personal preference and taste.
 
Out of curiosity, how long has it been since you've really been interested in anime? Because personally I only started watching about 4 years ago. (off topic a bit, I know)
 
Since 1988 for me.

On topic, I think Pokemon was dubbed well. xD
 
I don't like Ganju's voice in the dubbed version. He just doesn't sound even remotely similar to me. In my opinion, they could have done better for him.
Ichigo on the other hand was surprisingly well, it's pretty close to the Japanese version.

Renji, no. Too gruff.
Urahara....no. There's that Japanese "onee" (okama) tone that's always makes it even more funnier than in English. They could at least made him sound somewhat gay-ish in his normal manner but when he's really serious, they could have made him sound really manly.
Ehn, I dunno. They just don't understand that difference.

I'm sure there's going to be other character dubbed voices that I'm not going to like but these are just of the few off the top of my head.
 
I don't get why the hardcore anime people think dubs are the devil. Sure, there are some crappy ones, but there are good ones too. Whenever I say "Nah, I usually just watch dubs" They immediately do the same thing some of you have done in this thread, turn around and start condescending! Wooh! fun!

Your mommy.
 
Shyrra said:
I don't get why the hardcore anime people think dubs are the devil. Sure, there are some crappy ones, but there are good ones too. Whenever I say "Nah, I usually just watch dubs" They immediately do the same thing some of you have done in this thread, turn around and start condescending! Wooh! fun!

Your mommy.
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Yeah, apparently if it doesn't sound EXACTLY like the original voice actors, then it's garbage and not worth watching to them. Makes you wonder why they even bother entering into a discussion on dubs, when they're never going to like one.
 
Bajaratt said:
Yeah, apparently if it doesn't sound EXACTLY like the original voice actors, then it's garbage and not worth watching to them. Makes you wonder why they even bother entering into a discussion on dubs, when they're never going to like one.
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Could just be me, but seems like YOU are the one entering the discussion here. So far you are in the minority here. And why does someone have to like something to have a discussion about it? I still don't get what your point is there. You all ready know how i feel about dubs, but i just don't get why you have to take the high and mighty route when it comes to your opinion being that dubs are a masterful work of art. People are allowed to have a differing opinion than you and might not be wrong.

Uh oh, here comes the rate down from garvin... oh wait i don't give a fuck.
 
RaiderX said:
Could just be me, but seems like YOU are the one entering the discussion here.
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Yeah, it is just you. The thread was asking for anime that has been dubbed; then people like yourself(who have no purpose in the thread at all) crap the thread just to say that dubs suck and they should just get subs. The guy didn't ask about what people preferred, he didn't ask which would be better, he asked where could he find information on dubs. Saying that they suck is completely irrelevant and entirely detracts from the thread.

You all ready know how i feel about dubs, but i just don't get why you have to take the high and mighty route when it comes to your opinion being that dubs are a masterful work of art.
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The only ones taking a "high and mighty" route are the morons who say that all dubs suck; when 99.9% of them never even give a dub a chance, they just say it sucks and move on. You don't like dubs? Fine, but stay the fuck out of threads that talk about dubs. It's 100% thread crapping and it's annoying. You've got no business here, stay away.
 
You are just silly. Yeah he asked for info on dubs, he got the info and so to you the thread should be over. You saying "yay go dubs" is just as much thread crapping as "dubs suck" because neither have to do with what the OP was asking about. Both are opinions on dubs, not info about what the op was asking for, just opinions. But since the others don't agree with you, its apparently thread crapping.

It just bugs me that since people don't agree with you, on a stand point twords dubs, that they have no business in a thread about dubs, they are stupid and obviously can't hear for shit, and are just wrong. Where the fuck do you live where only people who agree with you are allowed in the conversation? That just makes no fucking sense to me.

If things like this bother you, i have no clue as to how you have almost 7 thousand posts and have been able to handle qcdn for more than even a week. 99% of threads are derailed and just as many have both negative and positive opinions about w/e was posted in the op. But thats a different topic entirely.
 
RaiderX said:
You are just silly. Yeah he asked for info on dubs, he got the info and so to you the thread should be over. You saying "yay go dubs" is just as much thread crapping as "dubs suck" because neither have to do with what the OP was asking about. Both are opinions on dubs, not info about what the op was asking for, just opinions. But since the others don't agree with you, its apparently thread crapping.

It just bugs me that since people don't agree with you, on a stand point twords dubs, that they have no business in a thread about dubs, they are stupid and obviously can't hear for shit, and are just wrong. Where the fuck do you live where only people who agree with you are allowed in the conversation? That just makes no fucking sense to me.

If things like this bother you, i have no clue as to how you have almost 7 thousand posts and have been able to handle qcdn for more than even a week. 99% of threads are derailed and just as many have both negative and positive opinions about w/e was posted in the op. But thats a different topic entirely.
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You have no business in the thread in the same way a gay basher has no business at a gay pride rally(or a K-K-K member at a black pride rally); you're diametrically opposed to it, so the only reason you'd have to join in would be to start an argument. You're still not actually proving why you have any real reason to be in the thread, aside from just bashing dubs with no point behind it.

Since he's asking specifically about dubs, obviously he's pro-dub; so other pro-dub people recommending certain series with excellent dubbing are not thread crapping, only giving him more specific details of what he might want to watch. I have plenty of business in a dubbing thread, since I like a lot of dubs and I know where to find some. You, however, have none.

People who have different opinions are fine. People who have singular opinions without the slightest bit of understanding of the other side, however, I'm not fine with. It's in the same vein as racism and sexism; you don't even care about the other side, you just think you're right without even a shred of proof or justification.
 
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Where am i bashing dubs in this thread? So far i'll i have done is bash you for telling others to leave the convo. The thing you aren't getting though, is that the other people DO have more than just a slight understanding. I've seen dubs, in fact i've probably seen almost as many dubs as i have subs, and off of that basis it's my opinion that subs are more enjoyable. And for the most part, all of the other people in this thread dislike dubs from experience.

It's just posts ->like this<- that make me get the feeling that you think anyone who doesn't share your opinion has no idea what they are talking about when it comes to dubs, which just isn't true.

And not that it matters, but I would like the samurai champloo dub just as much as the sub if they hadn't cut the ending down (atleast on CN), i like the ending. So therefore it falls just short of being equal. FMA is right up there too.


Edit: Also, are you fucking seriously relating people disliking dubs to a K-K-K person at a black pride rally? For one, thats just ridiculous. And two, you can't compare them because a person in the K-K-K can't "test out" being black where as I've heard both a dub and sub.
 
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Where am i bashing dubs in this thread? So far i'll i have done is bash you for telling others to leave the convo. The thing you aren't getting though, is that the other people DO have more than just a slight understanding. I've seen dubs, in fact i've probably seen almost as many dubs as i have subs, and off of that basis it's my opinion that subs are more enjoyable. And for the most part, all of the other people in this thread dislike dubs from experience.
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The world doesn't revolve around you. You might not have said dubs suck(in this thread), but others have. Unless I specifically mentioned your name(and I didn't) then it's pretty obvious I'm talking to the people who actually said "dubs suck." Feel free to keep trolling me though.

It's just posts ->like this<- that make me get the feeling that you think anyone who doesn't share your opinion has no idea what they are talking about when it comes to dubs, which just isn't true.
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That's because, most of them don't. Most saw a shitty dub of a shitty series years ago and think they all suck based on that one experience. Or, your entire reasoning is that they don't sound exactly like the Japanese voice actors. That is, of course, on the very rare times that a reason is actually given; most of the time you describe some kind of torture you'd rather do than listen to the voice, and never offer any justification for why the voice is bad. You're not making valid critiques on the voice acting, only whining like little kids; it's very difficult to respect someone who has nothing valid to say.

Edit: Also, are you fucking seriously relating people disliking dubs to a K-K-K person at a black pride rally? For one, thats just ridiculous. And two, you can't compare them because a person in the K-K-K can't "test out" being black where as I've heard both a dub and sub.
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I'm sorry the analogy went over your head. No shit it's an extreme example, but those tend to get the point across better than something more subtle, although apparently it was still too subtle for you to figure out. Testing out being black is irrelevant(although there are companies that will make you appear black for a day), the point is, that you have no real reason to be there other than to start something. No one cares about your opinion, especially after you've already given it before; so showing up just to give it again and again in inappropriate settings is asinine.

You still have no good reason to be here, so just leave. Start your own thread that bashes the shit out of dubs if you feel like it; just stop shitting in other threads.
 
Most of the time its which version you watched first, or most. I watched 150 episodes of Bleach before i ever saw the dubs, so my mind just didn't identify with them. But for anime such as Hellsing, Trigun, or even Outlaw Star, i saw the dubs first, watch the whole series dubbed, and never thought twice about it.
 
Bajaratt said:
The world doesn't revolve around you. You might not have said dubs suck(in this thread), but others have. Unless I specifically mentioned your name(and I didn't) then it's pretty obvious I'm talking to the people who actually said "dubs suck." Feel free to keep trolling me though.
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Sorry when you were replying to me and kept using the word "you", i just kinda figured you were talking to me...

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That's because, most of them don't. Most saw a shitty dub of a shitty series years ago and think they all suck based on that one experience. Or, your entire reasoning is that they don't sound exactly like the Japanese voice actors. That is, of course, on the very rare times that a reason is actually given; most of the time you describe some kind of torture you'd rather do than listen to the voice, and never offer any justification for why the voice is bad. You're not making valid critiques on the voice acting, only whining like little kids; it's very difficult to respect someone who has nothing valid to say.
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Maybe at other anime forums you go to, but im pretty sure most of the people here who posted about disliking dubs gave a reason, aside from blabj. And yeah, every time i say i dislike a dub i describe a torture... oh wait no that was one time. Also if you read my whole post rather than pick the parts you can make witty remarks on, you would have seen in the other thread i posted pretty much the same thing marajade just said. Atleast for bleach and death note. Oh, but then i was just a bias retard for that reason. So I'm stupid when i don't give a reason, but when i DO give a reason i'm still stupid. Gotcha. Oh but you probably aren't talking to me (even though you said "you're not making valid points") but again, the people here gave reasons as well.

Bajaratt said:
I'm sorry the analogy went over your head. No shit it's an extreme example, but those tend to get the point across better than something more subtle, although apparently it was still too subtle for you to figure out. Testing out being black is irrelevant(although there are companies that will make you appear black for a day), the point is, that you have no real reason to be there other than to start something.
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I get what you're saying that they have no right to be there (as in K-K-K etc), however I disagree that people who dislike dubs have no right to be here. Usually analogys relate though... this isn't a Dub pride rally, and the people here aren't posting to start shit, so again its a shitty analogy. It's a forums for discussion and people are discussing there opinion, get used to it. All of the other posts about disliking dubs were not to start shit. You just think that because you love dubs so much. About the opinion...

Bajaratt said:
No one cares about your opinion, especially after you've already given it before; so showing up just to give it again and again in inappropriate settings is asinine.
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I'll say this again and in caps so you comprehend it... YOU ARE ON A FUCKING FORUMS ON THE FUCKING INTERNET, OPINIONS ARE 90% OF EVERYTHING POSTED HERE. I don't give a shit if you don't want my opinion, hell I could give two shits less about yours, but come on chief, its a fucking forum. A place of discussion, and if no one posted there opinion this place would be pretty fucking boring. And no, I haven't posted my opinion about people who dislike dubs having a right to post, besides in this thread which we are currently talking about.

Bajaratt said:
You still have no good reason to be here, so just leave. Start your own thread that bashes the shit out of dubs if you feel like it; just stop shitting in other threads.
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I have just as much "right", if you could call it that, to post my opinion in this thread as you do. And again, I'm not posting to bash dubs. Also sorry, I usually try to post in an existing topic rather than start a shit ton of new ones every time something new arises in the conversation.

But, this has nothing to do with subs or dubs anymore. It's just about you thinking people who dislikes dubs have no right to post, and me disagreeing because i think thats a load of bull shit. Since you are SOOO against thread crapping, if you want to keep talking about it you can start a new thread. I however could care less so, do what you will.
 
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