Einherjar fixed -POL NEWS

[pchan]

The next version update will contain a number of changes to the Einherjar venue.

A recent increase in the number of player suggestions and concerns received regarding Einherjar has led the development and operations teams to reconsider a number of that system's features.

Particularly, many players are of the opinion that the efforts demanded by Einherjar yield too little return, that the structure of layered challenges makes it difficult to introduce new members midway into a progressing group, and that players who may miss out on even a single chamber may find themselves unable to participate in subsequent runs with their group. All of this constructive feedback has led to a series of changes whose implementation will begin in the next version update.

Ampoules of Therion Ichor

Until now, the acquisition of ampoules of therion ichor has been contingent upon successful clearing of an entire chamber. However, this will no longer be the case. Instead, regardless of whether the chamber is cleared or not, players will receive ampoules in proportion to the total number of monsters they have slain. In addition, the amount of ampoules available per chamber will be increased. Defeating the final bosses, the so-called Guardians of Asgarth, will not yield additional ampoules.

Entry into Wings

Entry into all wings of Einherjar will be made less demanding for the majority of participants. The organizing player who obtains the Smouldering Lamp and reserves an Einherjar chamber will still need to fulfill all of the same requirements as before. All other players, however, will now be able to enter any of the chambers in Wings I, II, and III regardless of previous clears or valkyrie feathers in their possession.

Entry into Valgrind

At present, entry into Valgrind, the most remote chamber in the Hazhalm Testing Grounds, requires that all participants have cleared all chambers in Wings I, II, and III, and have the appropriate key item in their possession.
This requirement of clearing all nine wings will now apply only to the player making the reservation for Odin's Chamber. All other participating members now need only have cleared one chamber from each wing, and thus be in possession of a total of at least three valkyrie feathers.
Entry into Valgrind will still result in the loss of any and all related key items in all player inventories.

Rewards

Though we are still looking into ways to increase compensation and rewards, players can expect to see a number of new items added to the Einherjar lineup. More detailed information regarding how to obtain these new items will be released in the Topics post on the day of the version update!

http://www.playonline.com/pcd/topics/ff11us/detail/3308/detail.html

 

[Tristam Green]

nice. now maybe more people will be interested in it.

 

[Kotsu]

lol this is for you man. Both of us have been craving to brutally murder Odin. Now we can since people will get rewards faster now!

 

[Tyrath]

lol

Not bad I suppose.

It still requires that you have to clear all the wings for the leader to do odin, just removes the hassle of repeating wings for other members who might miss a run.

 

[Kotsu]

lol

Not bad I suppose.

It still requires that you have to clear all the wings for the leader to do odin, just removes the hassle of repeating wings for other members who might miss a run.

You only need to get 3 feathers, Wings 1-3 now. You don't need all 9 anymore. That's MUCH faster (I AM Z MASTER OF Z OBVIOUS)

 

[Zaltana]

better then nothing, yes? repeats lead to players feeling the group isn't going anywhere. less hassle can always be a good thing, IMO.

 

[Tristam Green]

better then nothing, yes? repeats lead to players feeling the group isn't going anywhere. less hassle can always be a good thing, IMO.

i lol'd REALLY FUCKING HARD.

So this also means that those people who stick with said leader will feel gipped out of their hard work while some random tards who never show up for events get to skip effectively straight to Odin.

Right.

 

[Kotsu]

Assuming those members are permitted to go and/or lot. A lot of people seem to be pulling this shit recently. Go to just what you want; they're not in it for the team. It's pretty disheartening

 

[Tyrath]

You only need to get 3 feathers, Wings 1-3 now. You don't need all 9 anymore. That's MUCH faster (I AM Z MASTER OF Z OBVIOUS)

Wrong.

The leader still needs all 9 feathers. All this does is make it so you don't get fucked if a member misses a run (which with 36 ppl is very common).

 

[Stine]

i lol'd REALLY FUCKING HARD.

So this also means that those people who stick with said leader will feel gipped out of their hard work while some random tards who never show up for events get to skip effectively straight to Odin.

Right.

But if you can't get enough people to go on the run consecutively it means that you are more likely to get someone to help with the run and not get stuck on a certain wing because not everyone has the feather from it. I'm sure the leader would reward whoever has stuck with them.

 

[Tristam Green]

Assuming those members are permitted to go and/or lot. A lot of people seem to be pulling this shit recently. Go to just what you want; they're not in it for the team. It's pretty disheartening

Exactly, I can understand if people miss runs here and there but I can see where this can be exploited (potentially).

 

[Tyrath]

Exactly, I can understand if people miss runs here and there but I can see where this can be exploited (potentially).

Well since they didn't gimp any of the wings, I doubt linkshells who have such members will ever even get to Odin =P


Because lets not forget, unless you have a pretty sound strategy, wing 3 is still on the harder side of things in this game. In my opinion, wing3 is overall worse than odin.

 

[pchan]

Wrong.

The leader still needs all 9 feathers. All this does is make it so you don't get fucked if a member misses a run (which with 36 ppl is very common).

With the news system it is possible to fight odin 3 times every 9 feathers except for the fist time you beat all the rooms. If timed properly someome will complete his 9 feathers every 3 wins.

 

[Xalioniaf]

Fantastic.
So when's the update happening, SE?

 

[Tyrath]

With the news system it is possible to fight odin 3 times every 9 feathers except for the fist time you beat all the rooms. If timed properly someome will complete his 9 feathers every 3 wins.

You'd have to have characters that don't enter the fight with Odin. Because I'm under the impression that people with their 3 feathers that enter Odin's room will still lose them.

 

[pchan]

You'd have to have characters that don't enter the fight with Odin. Because I'm under the impression that people with their 3 feathers that enter Odin's room will still lose them.

Yes that's what every Einherjar LS will do since it will tripple their Odin runs.

The easiest scenenario is if you don't lose feathers by just distributing the lamp ; you only need one mule that would keep 9 feathers and not enter. Then it is 3 wins (wing I, wing II and wing III) in any order and for w/e room followed by Odin and you can repeat it infinitely.

The worst scenario is if the lamp trader loses all feathers even if he doesn't enter. This requires either 2 mules, or asking 2 players not to enter for each odin. After the first odin :

farm the 1st chamber of each wing, enter odin with Mule1 ; Player1 and Mule2 don't enter (Player1: 3/9, Mule1 : 0/9, Mule2 : 9/9)

farm the 2nd chamber of each wing, enter odin with Mule2 ; Player1 and Mule1 don't enter (Player1: 6/9, Mule1 : 3/9, Mule2: 0/9)

farm the 3rd chamber of each wing, enter odin with Player1; Mule1 and Mule2 don't enter (Player1: 0/9, Mule1 : 6/9, Mule2 : 3/9)

Repeat...

 

[K. Ishitar]

You only need to get 3 feathers, Wings 1-3 now. You don't need all 9 anymore. That's MUCH faster (I AM Z MASTER OF Z OBVIOUS)

i knew you'd be in this topic...depending on rewards we'll see what happens

 

[Kotsu]

Wrong.

The leader still needs all 9 feathers. All this does is make it so you don't get fucked if a member misses a run (which with 36 ppl is very common).

I misread the wording there. It said "This requirement of clearing all nine wings will now apply only to the player making the reservation for Odin's Chamber. All other participating members now need only have cleared one chamber from each wing, and thus be in possession of a total of at least three valkyrie feathers." Obviously, I fucked up lol

You'd have to have characters that don't enter the fight with Odin. Because I'm under the impression that people with their 3 feathers that enter Odin's room will still lose them.

If you beat Odin, you're supposed to be able to enter Odin anytime you want right? I think that's what I read at some point on ffxiclopedia.org I dunno though, lemme know

i knew you'd be in this topic...depending on rewards we'll see what happens

I'm everywhere sir. Plus I strongly desire killing Odin.

 

[Tyrath]

If you beat Odin, you're supposed to be able to enter Odin anytime you want right? I think that's what I read at some point on ffxiclopedia.org I dunno though, lemme know

If you beat odin you can do the other 9 wings in any order.

Obviously that doesn't matter now since they're allowing everyone that option, only the leader gets old requirement.

 

[Kotsu]

Ok. So once leader is involved in the defeat of Odin, you can jump and do whatever it takes to get whatever feathers you need. thanks man