Eleibfrid and Tenkax (copy and past before deletion)

[CubsWoo]

ouch...i got no pm

mods-only PM, only the QCDN posting elite can see it... yes...

*puts on e-monocle, sips e-martini*

 

[Kelyon]

*sighs*

 

[tidy]

What a fucking baby.

 

[CubsWoo]

What a fucking baby.

This is only making things worse. If nothing comes of this and Neo doesn't deliver on his word then go nuts, but right now I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.

 

[CubsWoo]

As per Neolink's permission, the full text of his emails to me. Neo, if I've altered what you've said in any way, feel free to jump down my throat for it.

First of all, calm the fuck down. You, and everybody else who asks
for the pictures will get them. I'm busy talking on the forums for a
little while before I get banned again by Eleibfrid. Even though you
already have your mind made up about me, I'm going to send them to
you...just chill please.

This is, by far, the most diffcult time I've ever had in my life
trying to communicate with people. As I've said 3 million times,
you're not going to see any shred of evidence that I post on QCDN.
The past 2 weeks I've been posting it on different accounts and
Eleibfrid keeps deleting it. To give you a ballpark, he's deleted
about 50 posts I've made on about 10 different accounts.

If you banned me right this second, I would have another account running in 5.

Let me be clear to you, it's impossible for you, or any other
moderator at qcdn to ban this computer from qcdn.org permanently.
None of you can do it. Being banned is not the issue. My reputation
is not the issue. The reason I'm doing all of this shit is to help
you motherfuckers from being ruled from someone as corrupt as
Eleibfrid and Tenkax. And all yall can do is talk shit and take my
words out of context.

This is unbelievable, I do not understand why I was banned in the
first place. I do not understand why they chose to single me out, and
I do not understand why nothing happened to Kerowynn who got me in
trouble with PROOF-LESS accusations about having proof.


Yea you read that right, the reason Tenkax doesn't like is because
Kerowynn said I harassed her. She claimed to have proof, was asked to
show proof, and never gave it. What happened to her? Nothing.

I just don't understand why so many of yall are so hell-bent on
venting so much anger towards a person.


Honestly, at this juncture, there's no fucking way I'm going to
achieve the goal I have when I created this latest account which was
to reinstate my original account and show you all why I'm right and
they are wrong. Because really, I could tell you my name is Neolink
and none of you would believe it. It's that rediculous in my mind.


P.S. You really don't expect me to re-do 2 weeks + of posting in a
matter of 5 minutes on a forum I said was impossible to show proof on,
right?

(when asked if it was ok to post his emails)

I don't mind at all. I appreciate you emailing me also, hopefully
someone will be helped by all this. Talk to you soon.

 

[Marajade]

I have a sugjestion to make.

Post it here.

See if it gets deleted.

With the amount of people reading this thread, someone will see it.

If its Deleted, you might actualy have even more credit to your cause.

But, you don't actualy have anything, so that's ok.

 

[tidy]

In all seriousness; I'd like to know why he wants to be unbanned. So he can get bashed in every thread he posts in? It's quite obvious that not many people like him. What does he hope to obtain from this?


EDIT: Okay, late response. Let me read what he wrote.

 

[Blancho]

Oh wow I knew this might be coming, I couldn't log into QCDN .

But if you want proof of ele breaking the rules I'll get you some.

I may not be a big fan of neo's but I Agree with him calling out Ele for being biased against members and breaking rules. I have no clue about tenk when was the last time he was on here? anyways I'll add a edit to this post is a second with my proof.

If you have any further questions or concerns, please PM myself or another moderator.

Neolink: it's been decided by the mod staff that you are to be qcdn's pet troll, for everyone and anyone to pick on and make fun of without worry of rammifications.

Telling everyone it is ok to flame neolink without any penalty.

Also make no mistake. I was the one who kept deleting your posts because quite frankly the best way to get a point across is to do just this, make a thread in the feedback section. Not bump threads with some stupid "lalala ffxi onry prs" child retaliation.

Did I answer any and all questions?

If I did? Good. If I didn't? I don't care. I'm terrible at this job anyway, right?

Admitting to Jamal he erased some of his posts. But really gives no valid reason as to why.

P.S.
I also feel Neolink and others such as Peregrine have been wrongfully removed rather I like them much or not. I am someone to stand up for things and I respect others who do the same.

 

[CubsWoo]

In all seriousness; I'd like to know why he wants to be unbanned. So he can get bashed in every thread he posts in? It's quite obvious that not many people like him. What does he hope to obtain from this?

I don't know or care, if someone wants to be on a forum where they're unpopular I don't see a problem with that. He feels he was wrongly removed and that's why he's got a chance here to make a case. If he gets unbanned on Neolink people can still flame the shit out of him, whatever. Being a heel is fun. I've been a dick plenty of times on this forum if you look back a few years.

 

[Blancho]

Read my edit above if you haven't. Please.

 

[Dejavu]

well i can confirm 2 of his accounts being banned tonight (goodbye asiaminor and asiaminor2) and truthfully i was the one who sent ele a tell on ffxi about them. Honestly i could care less why you were banned thats not the issue imo. By creating socks you are breaking another rule which those accounts should be banned and removed for.

Now on the otherhand if you sent tells to ele in game or w/e asking why you were banned and showed a shread of competence in any of your arguments against your banning you may have a chance of coming back but this is probably not helping your cause... Also if u think im another one of ele's friends quite honestly i hardly fucking know him or you for that matter just at the time he was the only moderator on.

Neways still waiting on this Proof so ... hopefully ill see it tomorrow

 

[Odon]

lolFlameboard.

 

[Psylentcuda]

lol That email shows no proof of anything on here. All it is a fucking emo kids screaming about getting banned trying desperately to fit in around here. Neolink is a liar and cheat, what makes you think he would do any different. As for Ele being biased, meh I'd say he is if I had to guess, but honestly isn't that what this whole site is? A huge group of people connected in-game by their involvement on this site.

 

[Blancho]

It's one thing to be have a natural bias towards someone who you don't completely click with.

It's another thing to ABUSE moderator powers towards someone you are biased towards.

Ele has proven to be biased on NUMEROUS occasions. (I've already given 2 prime examples of that.)

Give a man power and you will see his true character.

P.S.
I'd like to see some proof on Ele's side that Neolink had broken rules (worth a permaban). I honestly think you guys have it all wrong Neolink doesn't need to show proof Ele needs to show proof of a proper and just banning of Neolink. Show some proof and shut him up and it will be ended. If there is hard core evidence of him breaking rules bad enough to get permabanned then no matter what biasness he shows or anyone else shows the point will be mute because it will be OBVIOUS that he broke rules worth being permabanned.

Neolink isn't on trial here Ele is. Neolink is calling out Ele asking ELE why he got banned and what he did that was so wrong.

 

[Free_Neolink]

"Obviously it is the intention of the Eleibfrid to conspire with Tenkax and other moderators to obstruct Neolink's efforts toward the establishment of peace throughout QCDN.org ... Thus, the earnest hope of Neolink to adjust Neolink-moderator relations and to preserve and promote the peace of the community has finally been lost."

Counter-offensive on you two are imminent.

im·mi·nent [im-uh-nuhnt] –adjective
1. Likely to occur at any moment; impending: Her death is imminent.
2. About to occur; impending: in imminent danger.


God I love emo posts.

Eleibfrid: You can stand under my um-ber-ella ella ella.lolololololla

 

[Kelyon]

No more typing for me on this thread tonight because of Kelyon and Timwakefield's antagonzing 5th grade bullshit.

[email protected] locked and loaded email me if you care to discuss further without Eleibfrid's behind-the-scenes involvement, not that any of you would believe it since apparently I'm such a liar right?

Que??

 

[Winklewil]

After you read the entire thread, can you tell me why I was banned in the first place?

It seems to me like you've been given that answer multiple times. At least, I've been able to clearly READ the answer directed at you several times, and that seems to be that you're a hair-shy of being a creepy-ass stalker. I've read confirmation of this from various SEPARATE SOURCES, all of which wholeheartedly back that information up, and your disturbingly obsessive behavior here, tonight, only lends more evidence to the idea.

You're being completely unreasonable. Read your gmail and chill the fuck out. There is no possible way for me to show it here, read the fucking thread. At least now you realize that I hold the proof, that's a tiny step towards the right direction.

You've redefined the term "cop-out." You're just bursting at the seams with promises of damning media, to anyone who has the gall to ask for it "privately." I have done so via e-mail, and received nothing but more plain text "explanations" right here. You may very well BELIEVE the gist of what you say, in some elusive, demented corner of your mind, but even you must realize that you're using all claims of tangible proof as a stalling tactic.

"L0lz i cant post itz h3r3z i tol' j00" my friggin' ass. You fail to deliver because you have NOTHING.



Where's my proof? Unlike you, I can admit that I have none, but I have plenty of behavioral evidence:

Please read the entire post I made.

Also, like Wakefield said you should see above. Read the entire thread

Please read the entire thread.

After you read the entire thread, can you tell me why I was banned in the first place?

Wow. Please read the entire thread.

Read your gmail and chill the fuck out. There is no possible way for me to show it here, read the fucking thread.

Just admit it already -- you have NOTHING, and any claims of such are weakly constructed delaying tactics, trying to buy you enough time to simply "persuade" people through the not-so-impressive merit of your arguments.



It seems to me that Cubswoo went out on a limb for you, here, and you've consistently failed to climb up and join him. I confess that I, myself, was more willing to believe that you "had something" than I'm comfortable admitting. I even contacted you privately, in the earlier stages of your post/ban/newpuppet/post cycle, to try to worm out exactly what it was that you were trying to communicate.

Imagine my disappointment, then, to realize that you aren't a martyr on the chopping block of free expression, but rather a disturbingly obsessed fellow struggling with a persecution complex. Borderline schizophrenic, even.



Don't include me in your larger fantasy of the "world out to get out you." Those who have even paid the slightest attention to my posting habits, the fights I've chosen to fight, and the "sides" I've taken during some of QCDN's rockier history can tell you ... I'm very much AGAINST rampant, UNCHECKED post deletion, and legitimately-labeled "censorship."

Especially considering some of the paradigm shifts this community has been through in the last year, with the extremely divisive issues of where exactly a moderator should "step in," how much you have the "right" to say, and, indeed, the validity of the Flameboard as a whole ... ESPECIALLY considering all of that ...


For you to advance your petty little crusade under the banner of the Censored and Downtrodden ... well, it stinks. As someone who actually took a fairly firm stance on the right of the community to post with as few restrictions as possible ... your actions go so far to advocate the position of the other side, that it genuinely depresses me. I still firmly believe in where I stood on minimal moderation, but I'm irritated as all Hell with you for weakening our arguments, solely because of your insistence in trying to piggyback your personal vendetta onto them.





Make no mistake. You weren't banned because of what you had to say. You weren't "censored." You weren't forcibly silenced because you had something "dangerous" to reveal, nor were you made to disappear because you were posing a threat to the "vast conspiracy."

You had a restraining order issued against you, because you didn't know enough to LEAVE PEOPLE ALONE ON THEIR OWN TIME. You took your complaints to the board (which, as far as I can tell, were pretty flimsy to begin with). When your tactics resulted in your being muzzled a little, you took your fight FROM THE BOARD, and began aggressively pursuing people out on the street.

From what anyone can piece together at this point, this is what happened. The answer to the question you stubbornly ask, time and again, is as stated above -- arguing, even FLAMING, with people on QCDN is one thing ... continually harassing them in whatever way you can, outside of QCDN, is quite another.

Stop antagonizing Neo for now. He's holding up his end of the bargain and in the interest of fairness I want him to be able to focus on that instead of back and forth trolling.

Sorry.

 

[Blancho]

The board has NO AUTHORITY to pursue judgment against someone who is doing something out side of the board PERIOD. (If thats the case Neolink wins unban him and remove ele from moderator status.)

If you don't like him in game blist him. Simple.

Or get a GM involved.

P.S.
I rather doubt that is the reason though. Please don't post like you know something for a fact if your really do not. However if you do know this for a fact and can prove it please do.

 

[Free_Neolink]

It seems to me like you've been given that answer multiple times. At least, I've been able to clearly READ the answer directed at you several times, and that seems to be that you're a hair-shy of being a creepy-ass stalker. I've read confirmation of this from various SEPARATE SOURCES, all of which wholeheartedly back that information up, and your disturbingly obsessive behavior here, tonight, only lends more evidence to the idea.


You've redefined the term "cop-out." You're just bursting at the seams with promises of damning media, to anyone who has the gall to ask for it "privately." I have done so via e-mail, and received nothing but more plain text "explanations" right here. You may very well BELIEVE the gist of what you say, in some elusive, demented corner of your mind, but even you must realize that you're using all claims of tangible proof as a stalling tactic.

"L0lz i cant post itz h3r3z i tol' j00" my friggin' ass. You fail to deliver because you have NOTHING.



Where's my proof? Unlike you, I can admit that I have none, but I have plenty of behavioral evidence:






Just admit it already -- you have NOTHING, and any claims of such are weakly constructed delaying tactics, trying to buy you enough time to simply "persuade" people through the not-so-impressive merit of your arguments.



It seems to me that Cubswoo went out on a limb for you, here, and you've consistently failed to climb up and join him. I confess that I, myself, was more willing to believe that you "had something" than I'm comfortable admitting. I even contacted you privately, in the earlier stages of your post/ban/newpuppet/post cycle, to try to worm out exactly what it was that you were trying to communicate.

Imagine my disappointment, then, to realize that you aren't a martyr on the chopping block of free expression, but rather a disturbingly obsessed fellow struggling with a persecution complex. Borderline schizophrenic, even.



Don't include me in your larger fantasy of the "world out to get out you." Those who have even paid the slightest attention to my posting habits, the fights I've chosen to fight, and the "sides" I've taken during some of QCDN's rockier history can tell you ... I'm very much AGAINST rampant, UNCHECKED post deletion, and legitimately-labeled "censorship."

Especially considering some of the paradigm shifts this community has been through in the last year, with the extremely divisive issues of where exactly a moderator should "step in," how much you have the "right" to say, and, indeed, the validity of the Flameboard as a whole ... ESPECIALLY considering all of that ...


For you to advance your petty little crusade under the banner of the Censored and Downtrodden ... well, it's repulsive. I mean, just ... UGH! I can't even finish expressing to you how disgusted I am that you would do that, for something like this. As someone who actually took a fairly firm stance on the right of the community to post with as few restrictions as possible ... your actions go so far to advocate the position of the other side, that it genuinely depresses me. I still firmly believe in where I stood on minimal moderation, but I'm irritated as all Hell with you for weakening our arguments, solely because of your insistence in trying to piggyback your personal vendetta onto them.





Make no mistake. You weren't banned because of what you had to say. You weren't "censored." You weren't forcibly silenced because you had something "dangerous" to reveal, nor were you made to disappear because you were posing a threat to the "vast conspiracy."

You had a restraining order issued against you, because you didn't know enough to LEAVE PEOPLE ALONE ON THEIR OWN TIME. You took your complaints to the board (which, as far as I can tell, were pretty flimsy to begin with). When your tactics resulted in your being muzzled a little, you took your fight FROM THE BOARD, and began aggressively pursuing people out on the street.

From what anyone can piece together at this point, this is what happened. The answer to the question you stubbornly ask, time and again, is as stated above -- arguing, even FLAMING, with people on QCDN is one thing ... continually harassing them in whatever way you can, outside of QCDN, is quite another.






Sorry.

Read the entire thread. Also kiss my ass because you don't know the truth and are covering moderators tracks to kiss their ass.

Shame on you for wasting a well-written post.

 

[Winklewil]

Read the entire thread. Also kiss my ass because you don't know the truth and are covering moderators tracks to kiss their ass.

Shame on you for wasting a well-written post.

I'm sorry I distracted you; just continue assembling your evidence, please. I'm not above admitting I'm wrong. I probably should've held off, as Cubswoo implored everyone to do.

Just, whatever you do, no more demands that people "read the entire thread." We've hit critical capacity with those, I think. I promise you ... I have.