Elvaan BLM.. 2x Astrals Vs. 2 INT+ rings

[Crosis]

Sure, but he has to sit 2x as much therefore doing less DoT. And If I get outdamaged my an Elvaan, it's because he's wearin 50 million in gear or because I was Silenced.

Twice as much? Wtf? A Taru does not have 50% more mp then an Elvaan.

I'm not the end all be all blm as a taru, no. But if you give a taru and an elvaan the same gear, The taru will do much more damage and have much more MP left.
In the same respect that Elvaan Sam > Taru Sam...
Taru Blm> Elvaan Blm. I'm not insulting anyone, I'm just sayingthat as an Elvaan, you will never be the best Blm possible no matter what you do.

With mp merits and the gear I have I can have more MP then most Tarus. Can they have more? Sure they can, but they have this little thing called HP. And since most MP +gear converts HP to MP a Taru will not use it. You know how many times I've done Fafnir, Dynamis, Limbus and the reason I've survived was because of my hp? Lets fight some Nin mobs in Dynamis, see how many Tarus die from Mijinn Gakure compared to the Elvaans, heck I even survived a couple Astral Flows.

Even though I outdamage 90% of the Tarus I party with lets ignore that fact. Let's say an Elvaan and Taru are fighting Fafnir. The Taru is doing 1350 MB's, the Elvaan is doing 1290. The Taru pulls too much hate and dies after the 5th nuke because they can't take 2 hits from Fafnir without dying. The Elvaan, still alive, does another 2 MB's before the Taru is unweakened (assuming he can even get back up due to wings). 1350 X5, 1290 X7. You do the math.

You can use the logic of giving a Taru and an Elvaan the same gear and the Taru will outdamage the Elvaan all you want. When does everyone in this game have the same gear?

Will every BLM have Zenith Mitts? No.
Will every BLM have Af2? No.
Will every BLM have maxed merits (Potency & Elemental Magic)? No.

Let me know if you want to ever do some Manaburn parties in KRT, think that will change your mind.

Actually the Int Difference is like 27 at 75.

Not sure if I misunderstood that Al, but are you saying the INT difference between an Elvaan and Taru at level 75 is 27? It's only 13

BLM/WHM Taru has 76 INT, an Elvaan has 63.

And for anyone who hates math, 1 INT = 4 damage. 4 x 13 = 52. So the womg more damage Trippy is speaking of? Is a whopping 52 per nuke assuming both races have the same gear (which never happens).

Lastly, <3 Kyr and Neo

 

[Xean]

You people argue too much and read too little.

If you pay closer attention, all Trippy is saying that, if put to maximum effects and compared, one race will outdo the other, but not that the other races are horrible at the damage either.

 

[Passions]

I beat maat first try as Elvaan blm.
As did most other Elvaan blms i know.
I dont know a single taru blm that didnt die
atleast 5 times.

second try at 66 flood was resisted after casting flare :shok:

in any note. there are lots of dumb blms out there of any race its pretty easy to manage mp after refresh time on blm in a xp party. You might wana sub rdm for a lil extra int. you lose some mp gain more hp's but your int goes up higher by 2 points. I always found it as a good exchange. If you've got enough mp to do 2 normal nukes and one aga you've got enough mp after that stack up on the int and magic attack bonus gear.

as others have said it isn't in the gear/race its in the player. give it your all and others will respect you more then the silly taru that spams tier 3 spells from start to finish

 

[Zeoaesir]

You people argue too much and read too little.

If you pay closer attention, all Trippy is saying that, if put to maximum effects and compared, one race will outdo the other, but not that the other races are horrible at the damage either.

I will quote him

"Elvaan Blm, no matter how you do it, are not as effective as taru blms."



Not in my experience. There are some great Taru blm out there, but also some not so great ones that coast the 'Taru mp-int mothership'

If you compare a full merit taru with a full merit elv, the Taru will do approx

Taru =1400 on Thunder IV
Elvaan = 1360 on Thunder IV

(not a huge difference)

mp is not an issue with gear and experience pts (and merits)

If the Taru is in anyway lacking in gear or merits the Elvaan will overcome that gap very quickly.

So the "no matter how you do it" comment is bollocks!^^

 

[favre]

elvaan blm do just fine

im a lv 75 elvaan blm. i use sorcerers ring moldavite earring pendant weksit and gloves not senith mitts /sigh wish i had them. I do have the gear to macro yellow hp so i use ring at will and have enough mp gear to get me to 1100 mp. with enough ing gear to get my int 63 base +47 int to 110 overall. i know that a ncely equiped taru can out do my damage but all in all i out do 80% of all blm that ive been in manaburn with.One bonus no taru blm will get is the fact when i out do dmg and get aggro i almost always survive and i just love that elvaan mp. i would just macro in equip as needed its the way to go use mp gear until mp is low enough you dont need it then go for the damage. you know your elvaan and know you weaknesses and strenghts and take advantage of them. it is just great when elvaan blm is out dointhe party in dmg you get all the /check and people saying what the hell. it feels great i just love it. but at the same time some people will out do your dmg dont worry about it. MAIN advise equipment is your friend and i have spent more time then i can say cooking and making gil (lv 99 cook) for the equip then i care to share. but if your an elvaan blm its going to be costly just to keep up.
BLM rules and i love being elvaan. if im mispelling sorry im in class now and trying to check up on things pardon the fast typing