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mysticalone

mysticalone

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this is an extension to a comment i made in a good times thread regarding parties. what needs to be done or changed in this game to actually get steady parties pre level 70? i come to the conclusion most players that do play on a consistent basis only do end game or merit to avoid the hassle of waiting for a party to level a low job. i am not content at all with having one job at 75 since i have played from NA release. i sit for hours on end during peak NA hours trying to form or get in a party on jobs that i really enjoy, to see a minimal amount of people in my job range. its not even the fact of missing just one DD r healer, its to the point of seeing 4 or 5 people in your level range. no, i am not searching on lolpup or drg , i have been leveling 45 bard and 52 monk. any new tricks besides static/form on your own/solo with npc while lfp?? i can't be the only one hating this part of the game. is that why SE throw this pokemon BS for no reward crap to us? to keep us occupied during the fact they can't bring in new players by advertisement or marketing? can something seriously be done or is this horse beaten dead??
 
Well to be honest, Mystic, I think its just the old playerbase. As newbs, we knew no better and sought out parties to level up.

Once you're established and make good friends through your stay in FFXI, you can come to rely on them - or even yourself - to level up. THF and WHM were the 2 jobs I HAD to level in party, but even for the last couple of levels, I had awesome friends for both. SMN and BLM were a whole new fish.

BLM - I duo'd it with Rece since level 34. It was probably the most fun leveling I have ever had. I should also mention the various random manaburns towards the end.

SMN - I solo'd a lot on bombs. I went from 50 - 65 solo and random exp solo 70+.
 
Don't limit the type of jobs or lvl range when forming a pt (or camp spot). Even with a 3-4 lvl gap you can get 150+ exp on chain 1. Also, pld and nin are not the only tanks, as whm, smn and rdm are not the only main healers. last, ask people that are not seeking (shout or /sea all X-X).
 
Or wait till WotG is release when everyone would be in lvling craze... the problem is (assuming one of the job is Time mage), /sea all <enter lvl here> inv = Time Mage x 20 ? lol
 
Blm,smn,rdm,blu,pup can main heal if they sub whm.
I leveled monk to 70 and and systematically tanked when a nin is in the party (and sometimes with a pld), so tank is overrated. If the mob is debuffed, war/nin, mnk/nin can tank, just don't kill hard shit like dhalmels, gobs or toramas ..

Also, pre ~30 any melee/war can tank. Mandies, crab etc are weak.
 
Kirlua said:
Or wait till WotG is release when everyone would be in lvling craze... the problem is (assuming one of the job is Time mage), /sea all <enter lvl here> inv = Time Mage x 20 ? lol
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lol soo true indeed but i dont feel like waiting til december and truly hope time mage isn't the next lolpup. i think im going to start a brand new character on my 360 (i have info for my wifes old acct.) and make it a wm, level that high so i can use it to power level my main. play my 360 and ps3 at same time since i have a split screen pip tv.
 
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The problem with ToA is and was that it made experience too easy. SE wanted people to get end levels fast and everyone did that. Multiple times. By now, most people have leveled a majority of the jobs that they wanted to and the few that haven't, either lack the time because they are doing end game events or just don't comprise a large enough group to make consistent parties at any level range besides end levels where they can easily join merit parties.

The only real solutions are to make your own parties, solo if possible or find friends to group with especially if they have similar schedules or in demand jobs such as a healer or BRD. I've been trying to level up NIN recently and it's fairly slow. There are never enough jobs seeking to make another party and usually the parties already made grab the key jobs I would need to make a decent party. It also doesn't help people are becoming significantly dumber. I could name a number of things, but really this isn't the place for it, but needless to say, I am seeing people care less and less about gear and/or just becoming all around dumber.

About a couple of years ago, a few people suggested a decent idea which was to use QCDN as a way to get parties easier. It would be too much of a pain to make a new post for everyone seeking a party in Event Scheduling, but if people were able to list the jobs they had and planned on seeking available for others to search, perhaps they could use it to find decent members in their range while they are seeking on alternative jobs.

Ex: I am seeking on my 75 WAR for merits, but I have 28 SAM I want to level, but no one can tell that without them already knowing. They search QCDN, find I have a DD job for their level range and ask me.

Maybe someone should suggest it again?
 
pchan said:
Blm,smn,rdm,blu,pup can main heal if they sub whm.
I leveled monk to 70 and and systematically tanked when a nin is in the party (and sometimes with a pld), so tank is overrated. If the mob is debuffed, war/nin, mnk/nin can tank, just don't kill hard shit like dhalmels, gobs or toramas ..

Also, pre ~30 any melee/war can tank. Mandies, crab etc are weak.
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Past lv 37 you arent going to find many war that will tank.
if people leveling war wanted to tank they would be leveling ninja or pld at this moment and not WAR. Dual tanking works but the instant somone tries to get me to maintank and im in town the /sam sub goes right on to emphasize how much I hate tanking as a war.(other than when I keep grabbing hate from sheer awesomeness) The lowered evasion from aggressor certainly doesnt help either.

Not only that but blm cant haste which is the big reason why people invite rdm and whm.
 
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I made the suggestion, check the link. Maybe give some feedback and/or better ideas there so something can be implemented.
 
I've also considered bringing a signal pearl and tactics pearl to a part and setting her on DD modeto fill in a missing spot. Anyone think this might help slightly since NPC all have A+ rank in weapons and shinai gives them 4 extra acc? This would have to be t-vt only I would theorize unless SE let us customize them more by adding in npc enhancing rings..
 
Few more things; you don't always need 5-6 people to get decent exp and there is a good reason a lot of low lvl pts have pl's. Sure there will be some newbs that get easy exp and will suck later on, but if your short on time and tired of seeking all day....

Yeah most wars refuse to tank, but the ones that do want to lvl war not nin (2 very diff jobs). I tanked on war till 50, then started dual war/nin to about 55 before people stopped inviting war/nin to tank aside from back up.
 
I was a pup tank at lv 31~33. Just needed a thf to sata onto me. Bluemages can also tank once again thf is needed. I had a bluemage tank for my party in kuftal at 52~54. With the new signet effect of exp bonus for smaller groups you could always go with 4-5 people. The problem is finding people willing to try it. As for warrior/ninja for subtank....Not all of them even wanna set up for sata. I had a horrible warrior that would always move as soon as he say i was behind him. The Cor would run into the space so i could sata dancing edge. Almost killed the cor a few times x.x So the party disbabnded due to one not willing to do his job.
At 58~62 i duo and trio tanked with other war/nins. It works rather well. Like a mini cannon.
 
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