Equipment feedback?

Mishaela

Mishaela

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Gonna hit 55BST soon (@2600..hope to get it as well as Rampage tonight ;-; )

But I'm seeking a few opinions..
1. Brigandine +1 (Some def, +15hp +1STR/AGI/INT/MND/CHR +3DEX/VIT)
Or R.K. Chainmail (More def, +2STR/DEX +3att)

2. Spike Necklace (+3STR/DEX -6MND)
or Royal Guard's Collar (<3 collar..+4 att/acc)
..Or should I just use both, macro the former for WSes?

I know, dumb to ask, but I've never been to sure on the whole str vs att debate.. (for anyone wondering, my base str if I keep Spike/Brig at 55 will be 70, att about 224)
 
Well im not a Bst nor a Melle, but id go with the Briing+1 and depending on the rest of your gear if accuracy is good spike, if not coller.
 
RK mail is better for melee. You could do well with either collar. I just use the acc one for tp and then str one for ws =P
 
Mishaela said:
1. Brigandine +1 (Some def, +15hp +1STR/AGI/INT/MND/CHR +3DEX/VIT)
Or R.K. Chainmail (More def, +2STR/DEX +3att)

2. Spike Necklace (+3STR/DEX -6MND)
or Royal Guard's Collar (<3 collar..+4 att/acc)
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RK mail fo sho; if anything, do it for the looks. That was one of my favorite-looking armor pieces in the game, plus a mere +1 to stats isnt going to make nearly as much difference as the +10 def on RK.

For neck piece, I'd say stick with RG collar while building TP. Macro in Spike Necklace for Rampage.

Mishaela said:
I know, dumb to ask, but I've never been to sure on the whole str vs att debate.. (for anyone wondering, my base str if I keep Spike/Brig at 55 will be 70, att about 224)
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70 base str at 55? How the hell did you do that? at 73war/nin I have base 76str. /thf, base 74... PLUS I'm elvaan, and I'mma assume you /whm.

Is BST the biggest str job in the game? Or do the stat increases taper off that much in the 50-75 stretch?
 
I think what she meant by:

(for anyone wondering, my base str if I keep Spike/Brig at 55 will be 70, att about 224)

is with equipment?

If I were you I would go with ryl. Kgts. and go with both spike necklace and ryl guards collar or if you would rather go with 1 more acc you COULD go with mermans gorget. Acc during TP gain and STR+ during WS is the general rule. At least thats what I do.
 
I would go RK Chainmail and the Collar.

I leveled too long witht the Brigandine +1 and was starting to pay the price when pulling hate or after leave. I got the Chainmail and was able to correct some of my issues. I don't have the collar on my BST yet, but should. If you can get it, I would say do it.
 
I agree with what everyone else said. (RK + both neck pieces) The only reason I'd bother with the other armor is if VIT is a mod for your WS. Then you could use it for WS switches. I'm not sure which attributes mod which WSs though. Either way, it would be such an insignificant amount that it's definitely not required.
 
The only 1h axe WS that has VIT as a modifier is Mistral Axe, and even then it's only 32% (and is matched by STR_32%).

Scythe WS's are much the same; primarily STR modded, secondarily INT and, surprisingly, MND.


edit: forgot to mention this.
Mishaela said:
I know, dumb to ask, but I've never been to sure on the whole str vs att debate.. (for anyone wondering, my base str if I keep Spike/Brig at 55 will be 70, att about 224)
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Best analogy I've heard, and have stuck with throughout all my melee jobs, is:

STR is the roof. ATK is how high you can jump. If you can jump really high, you need to raise da roof.
 
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CmdrFly said:
Is BST the biggest str job in the game? Or do the stat increases taper off that much in the 50-75 stretch?
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She used base incorrectly :P She meant with equipment

Drk and War are the 2 biggest str jobs in the game. I think a Drk/War And a War/Drk at 75 come out with the same str if they are the same race.
 
I have to say go with the RK chainmail and the collar as well. That's what I was using up until I got my Hauby. Just keep your spike necklace to swap in during WS's, it's a great neckpeice.
 
Mmmm, I wish I could afford a Brig+1, them things are crazy-priced :(
 
Errr yeah XD sorry, meant total STR ;-; (which is actually 72 now <3)

Thanks for the input everyone ^^ Now I just needto get a Demonslicer and I can look like a Shikaree cosplayer =P
 
CmdrFly said:
The only 1h axe WS that has VIT as a modifier is Mistral Axe, and even then it's only 32% (and is matched by STR_32%).

Scythe WS's are much the same; primarily STR modded, secondarily INT and, surprisingly, MND.


edit: forgot to mention this.

Best analogy I've heard, and have stuck with throughout all my melee jobs, is:

STR is the roof. ATK is how high you can jump. If you can jump really high, you need to raise da roof.
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Hey, that's the best analogy I've ever heard too. The only other analogy I had heard was a long story about two thugs trying to assault this man in a suit of armor. One is a big burly man with a club who represents strength, and another is a skilled fighter with a dagger who represents attack. First round, the burly guy goes up and whacks the man over the head with his club, and the skilled guy pokes the dagger through a chink in the armor. I guess for all intents and purposes they did the same damage. The story is muddy to me at the moment. Anyway, they both go to jail, and while in prison, the burly strength guy works out like crazy, and the skilled attack guy fine tunes his finesse. Upon release that armored guy is waiting to be assaulted again. The burly guy has a lot more strength now and does a lot more damage with his club to the head, but the skilled attack guy's dagger still does the same damage when poked through the armor. I guess the moral of the story was that attack can only take you so far. I like CmdrFly's analogy more.
 
CmdrFly said:
STR is the roof. ATK is how high you can jump. If you can jump really high, you need to raise da roof.
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That is an awesome analogy.
 
you dont really need the +3 str necklace if you have the collar, you dont want to take off acc for WS especialy(sp) if it is a multi hit one like rampage.The only reason you should ever macro out acc for Str is if you are /Thf and are using Ta with a single hit WS.
Also go with the RK armor, the brig+1 is so not worth the price on it.

ps, as for the Str to attack thing, you can never have too much attack on because for the most part you are never going to hit the Str cap, but usually at 75 everyone starts to stack on the Str since it gives better returns against VTs.
 
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I didn't make up that analogy, lol. I read it on Allakazham a while back. It is the only other analogy I've seen though.
 
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