Everyone has a Peacock Charm.

Personally I find this whole damn topic funny...for the fact that Vang is bitching cause he's not the 1 of 5 NA' who have a PCC, i think it's prolly one of those things he's gonna cry over until he's bought every PCC in exsistance...and god knows he'd do it
 
Tyrath said:
I hope they do something like this to kraken. :roll:

Disagree. IMO Kraken is a luxery item and it should be. You never really need a Kraken club but it's hella fun and it's something to get when most other things are done.

Thief Knife somehow is similar but you can solo this which is good. You know a person with a Thief Knife then you know he is very dedicated to his job and have spent lots of time for it (Unless he buy gil which you should know if he does).
 
Ronith said:
Personally I find this whole damn topic funny...for the fact that Vang is bitching cause he's not the 1 of 5 NA' who have a PCC, i think it's prolly one of those things he's gonna cry over until he's bought every PCC in exsistance...and god knows he'd do it

Plenty of NA had one before, the hard working ones that deserved it. (Or gilbuyers but that's another topic).

Im mad because

1. They take away a good amount of income from the THFs and NM campers. (Well, just the THFs, god knows you pos mage campers never got a drop)

2. They give to you to take and you don't, you waste oppurtunities and the successful campers are fucked over now.
 
Not really null. As I semi-eluded to in my previous post, I wouldn't sacrifice my characters ability to level up for a "required" 5M or more item that isn't entirely necessary. I'd much rather work harder on gaining levels on my character in the time that I can afford to spend on the game than spending hours after hours farming or crafting to try to earn money for an item thats only value is 'Wow, they have that. Nice.'

Once I quit the game permanently, those hours of annoying farming for one little piece of equipment aren't going to leave me anywheres. At least I get something out of having a character thats higher leveled (such as attending new events and quests and being able to walk sneak/invis free through areas). I'd much rather have experienced more of the game when I quit, then have the here and now satisfaction that someone 'looks up to me' because I have a certain item.
 
Thief Knife somehow is similar but you can solo this which is good. You know a person with a Thief Knife then you know he is very dedicated to his job and have spent lots of time for it (Unless he buy gil which you should know if he does).

There's a THF on quetzy that rarely, if ever, camped NMs who got a THFs knife on the first drop. He's a cool cat don't get me wrong. But having a THF knife doesn't really mean dedication, just lots of luck at that moment.
 
The reason people say "Wow, they have that. Nice." is because the items make you better.

So no, people saying that isn't the only reason to have them.
 
Zylia said:
Not really null. As I semi-eluded to in my previous post, I wouldn't sacrifice my characters ability to level up for a "required" 5M or more item that isn't entirely necessary. I'd much rather work harder on gaining levels on my character in the time that I can afford to spend on the game than spending hours after hours farming or crafting to try to earn money for an item thats only value is 'Wow, they have that. Nice.'

Once I quit the game permanently, those hours of annoying farming for one little piece of equipment aren't going to leave me anywheres. At least I get something out of having a character thats higher leveled (such as attending new events and quests and being able to walk sneak/invis free through areas). I'd much rather have experienced more of the game when I quit, then have the here and now satisfaction that someone 'looks up to me' because I have a certain item.

I noticed in your sig it shows you wearing leaping boots, so I would imagine you have some nice items. That dex and agi is real nice for your SATA and WS isn't it?

I feel the same about every item I own. It was worth it and fun obtaining the item.

Like I said, grab a beer and do some farming, not that hard. Bullshit with your LS, that's what it's there for lol
 
TiyaKelth said:
The reason people say "Wow, they have that. Nice." is because the items make you better.

So no, people saying that isn't the only reason to have them.

For the amount of change they do, they aren't exactly on my priority list. The bonus it offers isn't worth the time it would take to obtain. Especially considering for thf, all that matters is you hit the SC and let the mages burst. If I never got a chain because I couldn't gain TP fast enough in parties, I'd consider this. But I get chain 5's. I gained 36k xp in one day. A PCC to me is a waste of time. I do fine as is. I'd much rather have an evasion torque or something that I could use to go soloing on my own in that slot.

It's a nice vanity, but I wouldn't come close to saying its a requirement.
 
TiyaKelth said:
The reason people say "Wow, they have that. Nice." is because the items make you better.

So no, people saying that isn't the only reason to have them.

And you're ignoring what I've said. After a certain point, Accuracy just stops being as useful. After a point, certain items stop making you that great.
 
vang said:
Ronith said:
Personally I find this whole damn topic funny...for the fact that Vang is bitching cause he's not the 1 of 5 NA' who have a PCC, i think it's prolly one of those things he's gonna cry over until he's bought every PCC in exsistance...and god knows he'd do it

Plenty of NA had one before, the hard working ones that deserved it. (Or gilbuyers but that's another topic).

Im mad because

1. They take away a good amount of income from the THFs and NM campers. (Well, just the THFs, god knows you pos mage campers never got a drop)

2. They give to you to take and you don't, you waste oppurtunities and the successful campers are fucked over now.

Eh...damnit i guess

"Point Taken"

don't expect me to say that ever again
 
Er, meant to add;
The only stats that do not have diminishing returns are HP and MP. These are the only stats you can never have too much off.
 
Zylia said:
TiyaKelth said:
The reason people say "Wow, they have that. Nice." is because the items make you better.

So no, people saying that isn't the only reason to have them.

For the amount of change they do, they aren't exactly on my priority list. The bonus it offers isn't worth the time it would take to obtain. Especially considering for thf, all that matters is you hit the SC and let the mages burst. If I never got a chain because I couldn't gain TP fast enough in parties, I'd consider this. But I get chain 5's. I gained 36k xp in one day. A PCC to me is a waste of time. I do fine as is. I'd much rather have an evasion torque or something that I could use to go soloing on my own in that slot.

It's a nice vanity, but I wouldn't come close to saying its a requirement.

no one here said it is a requirement.
 
Skaw said:
Er, meant to add;
The only stats that do not have diminishing returns are HP and MP. These are the only stats you can never have too much off.

Yeah I'll be sure to equip BQ ring and some astral shit next time I xp on drk.
 
Raivyn said:
Skaw said:
Er, meant to add;
The only stats that do not have diminishing returns are HP and MP. These are the only stats you can never have too much off.

Yeah I'll be sure to equip BQ ring and some astral shit next time I xp on drk.

Do you even know what I'm talking about?

Do you know what Diminishing Returns are?

I'm not saying load the fuck up on HP/MP, just that HP/MP are the only stats that do not hit soft/hard caps implemented in the game.
 
Skaw said:
Raivyn said:
Skaw said:
Er, meant to add;
The only stats that do not have diminishing returns are HP and MP. These are the only stats you can never have too much off.

Yeah I'll be sure to equip BQ ring and some astral shit next time I xp on drk.

Do you even know what I'm talking about?

Do you know what Diminishing Returns are?

I'm not saying load the fuck up on HP/MP, just that HP/MP are the only stats that do not hit soft/hard caps implemented in the game.

In all honesty I read your post too fast. So yes, you are correct. Thanks for re-explaining though.
 
meeze said:
Zylia said:
TiyaKelth said:
The reason people say "Wow, they have that. Nice." is because the items make you better.

So no, people saying that isn't the only reason to have them.

For the amount of change they do, they aren't exactly on my priority list. The bonus it offers isn't worth the time it would take to obtain. Especially considering for thf, all that matters is you hit the SC and let the mages burst. If I never got a chain because I couldn't gain TP fast enough in parties, I'd consider this. But I get chain 5's. I gained 36k xp in one day. A PCC to me is a waste of time. I do fine as is. I'd much rather have an evasion torque or something that I could use to go soloing on my own in that slot.

It's a nice vanity, but I wouldn't come close to saying its a requirement.

no one here said it is a requirement.

Didn't mean to imply that it was a full requirement. The way a lot of people speak of it, it makes it look like if you don't have this or at least have a goal of getting it, you will never be satisfactory. That was what I meant by requirement. Sorry for lack of clarity.
 
Zylia said:
meeze said:
Zylia said:
TiyaKelth said:
The reason people say "Wow, they have that. Nice." is because the items make you better.

So no, people saying that isn't the only reason to have them.

For the amount of change they do, they aren't exactly on my priority list. The bonus it offers isn't worth the time it would take to obtain. Especially considering for thf, all that matters is you hit the SC and let the mages burst. If I never got a chain because I couldn't gain TP fast enough in parties, I'd consider this. But I get chain 5's. I gained 36k xp in one day. A PCC to me is a waste of time. I do fine as is. I'd much rather have an evasion torque or something that I could use to go soloing on my own in that slot.

It's a nice vanity, but I wouldn't come close to saying its a requirement.

no one here said it is a requirement.

Didn't mean to imply that it was a full requirement. The way a lot of people speak of it, it makes it look like if you don't have this or at least have a goal of getting it, you will never be satisfactory. That was what I meant by requirement. Sorry for lack of clarity.

no one said that either. keep trying, you'll get it.
 
Sarcasm doesn't bode well with me and therefore doesn't dignify a response. I know what I'm talking about. Sorry you can't seem to follow. Meeze, I think you haven't gotten along well with me ingame, so I'm not going to even attempt to draw this out on a forum.

The PCC is a nice item, don't get me wrong. But its overrated. Nice to have, not something you ultimately need. I wouldn't lose any sleep about not owning one, even after the update that made obtaining it alot easier.
 
On a side note, it's 4 AM est and I sure am glad I spent the whole night trolling the internet and now only have two hours to sleep before I hit the gym.

I hate how addicted I am to pointless shit.
 
Zylia said:
Sarcasm doesn't bode well with me and therefore doesn't dignify a response. I know what I'm talking about. Sorry you can't seem to follow. Meeze, I think you haven't gotten along well with me ingame, so I'm not going to even attempt to draw this out on a forum.

The PCC is a nice item, don't get me wrong. But its overrated. Nice to have, not something you ultimately need. I wouldn't lose any sleep about not owning one, even after the update that made obtaining it alot easier.

didn't actually know i knew you in game. no one said this was a requirement, no one said everyone should strive for it. what people said was that this item should only be attainable by those who DO work for it.

there isn't an elitist alive that would demand everyone in thier pt have a PCC. it is a luxury item not meant for everyone.
 
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