fenrir fight go wrong

Ok it's time i ended this topic. I didn't reply cause i wanted to see what everyone is gonna say. I saw the opinons i needed to see and i saw that some stood against me and some didn't.

Biggy! said:
Squee, were you there?...........................
thats what i thought

Let Teng defend himself because its quite frankly that everyone KNOWS your gonna be behind Teng 12304978205% because your his friend =/
Don't defend him at all unless your ready to look at both sides of the arguement

Friends always defend friends regardless of whether they're right or wrong. This applies to everyone especially if they're in God LS, you dun want members to leave now do you? And dun even lie on that.

Ok! i died so "big deal" since everyone will say that, so i HP, big deal, ppl will do that as well. But i didn't leave quietly. I said [I'm sorry] and [See you again]. Why i said "XP over Gil [No thanks]" is cause it took me 6friggin months to get smn to 75 (most of you won't really care anyways) and i'm not in a static, i make my own parties an most of the time ppl won't want a smn in PT and i'm not in a smn cannon PT unlike the usual 4members which was i did fenrir with. To then they can get back xp easily since they're cannon. I'm different, sure if you wannna blame me cause i dun have static go ahead, i live in a GMT+8 timezone, when i sleep, you play ffxi and vice-versa so how the fuck can i get a static. I even declined static when ppl ask me cause of that same reason. Personally no one wants to delevel to 74 cause ppl will bitch about it(yeah some will lie to defend themselves though) like at 74 i can't wear god armor and all that shit.

Davio dun give me crap on losing xp, you do gods with blm and every PT needs a blm, can get pt easily. I dun particularly like you either. No offense :P

But this isn't about you, it's about me, i was pissed cause i died so i was wrong there. I said my vows I'm sorry and See you again. I left politely. So why is everyone blaming it on me. Remember i am a "replacement" i dun do fenrir anymore unless i know it's a sure win situation(and ppl will do the same, dun lie on this as well). Who the hell will go fight fenrir with unsuitable jobs and so on and then die THEN say "oh! this is wrong job to beat fenrir". I you read the previous posts, you can tell ppl will still prefer 5 Smn at least to beat fenrir and Meastoso said 4 Smn can do it. I didn't doubt that but i know i can't. Another reason why i posted this on Flame was that i didn't want ppl to edit what they have said. Since majority will do to cover some of their asses if the next person replied said shit things about the previous post. But i wasn't one of the "merc" members so of course i wouldn't know right?

I joined the SMN Party cause i thought we had 5 summoners, remember kyora, i asked you many questions on my way to windurst, I asked "How may summoners are there?" My mistake was i should have asked you the question when i was still in Oztroja helping mugenteg get his mnk AF3. If i knew you only have 4 Summoner and 2 paying customer, i wouldn't have gone. So the death was my own fault and i didn't want it happening again so i left. Yeah i know members would be pissed so what, you can't hold me there if i didn't want to right?

Reason i left is cause i am INEXPERIENCED IN FIGHTING FENRIR WITH 4 MEMBERS. There everyone happy. I have only done fenrir with 6x SMN70+ with Leviatian's Spinning drive. I HPED CAUSE I KNOW I AM GONNA DIE AGAIN WHEN I GET RAISE1 SINCE THE PARTY WILL SURELY DO IT AGAIN TILL THE 2 PPL GET FENRIR. Happy again!!!!!
Does that clear things up, Kyora blisted me cause i left them. When i lost my haku cluster, i blamed no one, all i said was mistakes happened and we went separate ways. Blisting ppl is immature. I only blist gilsellers WHO made me mad. I even took some ppl off my blist after a while when they seem like they dun wanna bother me anymore. I dun like Davio but i dun blist him, why should i, he did nothing wrong so far.

Thus that clear things up.
HAPPY? EVERYONE HAPPY?

This wasn't intended to be a flame but i had to put it up here so ppl won't edit their posts.

BTW everyone has their principles or rules they play the game. Majority will lose huge amounts of xp for god armor and stuffs like that. I never question that. So please just cause majority ppl thinks xp is nothing to them dun flame or shit ppl who has other principles. We play this game as we like. How would you like if i asked ppl to show up on MY time and do missions with me. If you have work, skip it. Would i say that, of course no. So just cause you dun like they way some ppl play, you blist them or call then names and so on. It's not nice.

And by the way, Meastoso's last message was Maurinendalorin came 30mins after i disbanded. And while i was in oztroja there were in a hurry to do fenrir, even ask me to disband so they can get me to do fenrir. May i ask why is that? If they waited for the 4th member to come, everything would be fine, am i right? Please be honest on this question. It seems after i left, the 5 remaining members were still in FullMoomMountain waiting for someone to come. If they had no more ppl they would have just disbanded and went back Jeuno but nooooooo.
 
Skaw said:
Ah yes, Teng. The same guy I was in a PT with over a year ago in Cape Terrigan, where I had to fight barehanded because he sucked holding hate as a PLD.

Why do people like this reach the end game?

Who asked you for your opinion on Teng as a PLD? Oh thats right, not a damned person so top offering them. That has nothing to do with this thread so if you are going to flame him for being a bad paladin a YEAR ago.. Make another thread. Although it would be the lamest thread ever. Quit jumping on the bandwagon.
 
btw Skaw go fuck yourself, you are no different than kirayamato remember, you stood by each other. Remember the argument on Devifoxx's Divine Might, both of you stated that all blm pt sucked but ppl just wanna complete it and get it over it but you 2 wanted to do it the "Fun" way. So what is normal DM is fun, it's not fun if you die and lose xp right. SO i'm not the only person who thinks that losing xp is fun. Now tell me, how did ppl with atitude like you're ever get into a HNM God LS or even reach endgame even? Ask Davio if he wanna do DM again since he has done it with 18BLM, why dun you flame him. Of course you wouldn't. he's your friend. God LS mate right?

Btw skaw, endgame is diffferent for different ppl. Fighting gods and challenging against JP is not endgame for me. I dun fight gods, hell i dun even want to go near them, so what? Just cause you think fighting gods and wearing it is kool and showing off is kool as well and beating the JP is kool as well, Sorry, ppl like you, i dun wanna interact. I've seen better Mnks than you. And they dun need all those god shit either so plz go fuck yourself.

I started this cause you brought up something unecessary which was my pld life. It had no relationship to the initial post. BTW my pld is retired.
 
People just want to pick fights out of nowhere...

I got Fenrir from 4 70+ SMNs in which neither of them had ever done it with that setup before. You don't really need experience with this fight in particular, just luck and a quick brain. When I went, Maurinendalorin died and we still won. No two hours were needed, everyone just did their job.

Let them sort it out themselves, Squee. I understand you're his friend, but you don't have to come off like that.

Just blame Fenrir.
 
Squee said:
Who asked you for your opinion on Teng as a PLD? Oh thats right, not a damned person so top offering them. That has nothing to do with this thread so if you are going to flame him for being a bad paladin a YEAR ago.. Make another thread. Although it would be the lamest thread ever. Quit jumping on the bandwagon.

Actually it does. If he had such a hard time holding hate from an unarmed monk against crabs with one of the easiest hate holding jobs in the game, why move on to another job that requires more effort and know-how to play? He was an ailing failure then, and to me, sounds like nothing has changed.

And Teng. I never stated that 18 BLM DM sucked, I said it was cheap. And I'm not in Davoi's god LS, I'm not flaming him for being a total retard, because he's not. Doing things the easy way is not always the fun way. Challenges make you better, coasting along on cookiecutter methods doesn't. You're pretty much a prime example of that. You don't want to lose exp? Play a different game. It's around like that to make it, gasp, challenging.
 
teng said:
And by the way, Meastoso's last message was Maurinendalorin came 30mins after i disbanded. And while i was in oztroja there were in a hurry to do fenrir, even ask me to disband so they can get me to do fenrir. May i ask why is that? If they waited for the 4th member to come, everything would be fine, am i right? Please be honest on this question. It seems after i left, the 5 remaining members were still in FullMoomMountain waiting for someone to come. If they had no more ppl they would have just disbanded and went back Jeuno but nooooooo.
Ok, assuming that they took the time to look for a replacement SMN(you) and wait for him to show up so everyone could travel together, You're looking at maybe 30 minutes. Then another 20-30 minutes for you to get to full moon fountain, and another say 5 minutes for the fight. That's almost an hour already, plus the 30 minutes after this point when the other SMN showed up. That's around 90 minutes, assuming that they found you quickly. That's more than enough time for them to need to get a replacement rather than just wait for their usual 4th member. The 4th member also might not have been online, or just happened to come back 30 minutes after you left, so they weren't planning on having to wait that long.

If you don't want to lose exp, that's fine, but don't just cop out to you being a SMN as to why you don't want to regain lost exp. While it's true that you won't get invites like a RNG, you can still get a party together for exp. All of the exp parties I get on my whm are from friends and LS members who want to work on merits/buffers, you could try that way to get some parties for a buffer at 75.

There's also other alternatives to partying for getting exp. You could do some ENM's, or some escort/eco-warriors. They won't net you much, 500-3k, and you can only do them once a week, but that's better than nothing and more than makes up for a R1.
 
Skaw said:
Squee said:
Who asked you for your opinion on Teng as a PLD? Oh thats right, not a damned person so top offering them. That has nothing to do with this thread so if you are going to flame him for being a bad paladin a YEAR ago.. Make another thread. Although it would be the lamest thread ever. Quit jumping on the bandwagon.

Actually it does. If he had such a hard time holding hate from an unarmed monk against crabs with one of the easiest hate holding jobs in the game, why move on to another job that requires more effort and know-how to play? He was an ailing failure then, and to me, sounds like nothing has changed.

And Teng. I never stated that 18 BLM DM sucked, I said it was cheap. And I'm not in Davoi's god LS, I'm not flaming him for being a total retard, because he's not. Doing things the easy way is not always the fun way. Challenges make you better, coasting along on cookiecutter methods doesn't. You're pretty much a prime example of that. You don't want to lose exp? Play a different game. It's around like that to make it, gasp, challenging.


Ok once again you are accomplishing nothing flaming his tanking abilities. Who gives a shit that he could not hold hate off of you over a year ago. By what you just said you probably have ont had contact with him in any kind of strategic enviroment for the last year. So basically... You are flaming a lvl 58-60pld over a year ago that might have been having a bad day.

Teng is not an ailing failure. I have actually partied with him before as my BLM in Bibiki Bay. Dude did not have serket ring or any of the multi milion gil items but he was still good and got the job done. You are generlizing off of something that happened A YEAR AGO.
 
lol teng. you little pussy. if you don't want to lose exp. don't fucking do impossible to gauge stuff which is out of your league.

If you aren't up for the challenge then don't take it you little pussy. You are worse than a baby screaming for milk.

Kira, please invite me when you do DM. Hell no i don't. Why? Cause unlike the 18 blm method, the most challenging and exciting method needs hell a lot of co-operation and through losing you learn to curve and beat that mission. However, ppl like you, I don't want to lose exp. I want to win to complete the story. . .therefore thanks but no thanks, i do not like to invite pussy like yourself to such stuff.

Don't fucking bring up my name to degrade to your level loser. Go to Ebay or maybe some Auction house to find a particular little call "Guts" or maybe "Balls". I'm sure you are lack of it.
 
If you don't want to lose exp, don't have the time to lvl it however there is time to lvl other jobs and do teleports however wanna do missions which might cause death.

A suggestion, stop wasting your time. There is a perfectly suitable game for you and it is called,

ordernow.jpg


Oh wait, if you die, you have to search for your body and repair your armor but 0 exp loss!!! [/amazed] but you need time to get money for repair.. ah damn.. not a good choice for ya too yea?
 
Kirayamato said:
lol teng. you little pussy. if you don't want to lose exp. don't fucking do impossible to gauge stuff which is out of your league.

If you aren't up for the challenge then don't take it you little pussy. You are worse than a baby screaming for milk.

Kira, please invite me when you do DM. Hell no i don't. Why? Cause unlike the 18 blm method, the most challenging and exciting method needs hell a lot of co-operation and through losing you learn to curve and beat that mission. However, ppl like you, I don't want to lose exp. I want to win to complete the story. . .therefore thanks but no thanks, i do not like to invite pussy like yourself to such stuff.

Don't fucking bring up my name to degrade to your level loser. Go to Ebay or maybe some Auction house to find a particular little call "Guts" or maybe "Balls". I'm sure you are lack of it.

No.1 I never asked you anymore for a DM fight remember so dun bring that up ever again.
No.2 I seldom talk to you anymore remember.
No.3 I only had issues with you, i have no idea how you coped Skaw into hating me. I never hated Skaw, hell i seldom talk to him even, sure we pties a few times before but that's it. So why does he hate me? Maybe cause i dun really like you, is it? I dun have many enemies in ffxi and of course no one wants to.

Please read my reply post, it clearly states why i left the fenrir PT. Dun ask me or assume anything else. You dun know anything about me Kira, no one does. Only a few ppl know why i play this game and why i haven't left. Reasons i won't specify to anyone except close friends. Close friends meaning ppl who have the same reasons as me.

And yet you're one of the ppl who steps on my principles, just cause i dun share the same playing methods as everyone else, what does that make me, Jerk, Asshole, Stupid go ahead make names cause only idiots do that. Whatever you say isn't gonna make me quit this game. There is no endgame for me. Hell maybe you'll quit 1st.
 
teng said:
No.1 I never asked you anymore for a DM fight remember so dun bring that up ever again.
No.2 I seldom talk to you anymore remember.
No.3 I only had issues with you, i have no idea how you coped Skaw into hating me. I never hated Skaw, hell i seldom talk to him even, sure we pties a few times before but that's it. So why does he hate me? Maybe cause i dun really like you, is it? I dun have many enemies in ffxi and of course no one wants to.

No.1 You did ask. I will never invite you due to your mentality. Therefore why do you bother asking again? brain [Where?]
No.2 I seldom reply to you cause it is always about you whinning about gil sellers, not invites for missions [eg. DM and ohat], and about us not helping ppl because of gil.
No.3 I have nothing to do with Skaw. Sadly, he and I think a like and we didn't discuss about this to flame you. I let the public to flame your mentality. However, you used my name! so why can't i enter into the battlefield?
 
Skaw said:
And Teng. I never stated that 18 BLM DM sucked, I said it was cheap. And I'm not in Davoi's god LS, I'm not flaming him for being a total retard, because he's not. Doing things the easy way is not always the fun way. Challenges make you better, coasting along on cookiecutter methods doesn't. You're pretty much a prime example of that. You don't want to lose exp? Play a different game. It's around like that to make it, gasp, challenging.

Skaw, I am already doing challanges, promyvion mission is already a challenge for ppl who have never done them. Sure it will be easy for you but it's not easy some of us. I skipped work for 5 days to get vahzl done, yesh 5days, why cause we died and died and ppl never showed up and so on. Yaeh if it was you, you would have quit this PT long ago. Experienced member would have done this in 1day, in 1 go. I got up like 7am everyday, didn't go my work and still played ffxi. When i have a free day with no missions i go do my work till late and i dun claim overtimes cause i need to finish up what i left behind. Do i see commitments from all of you all like that? Reasons i levelled up smn is cause i dun want to ask for help all of the time. With smn i can solo whatever i need for myself without relying on others since i dun have a big LS nor a HNM LS(i dun do gods). I soloed all the haku eyes for my cluster 2 times, soloed missions and quests without needing any help is what i want. BUT there are time when you cannot solo, that is when i ask for help. And when i ask for help, ppl are quick to turn me down BUT not other ppl. Reasons being many high levels in the game are in the same LS hence they already have enough trouble helping each other out. What equips i cannot get i just quit on it, just like i quit on Jelly Ring for my pld and since i don't do gods, i won't have uber tanking armor like the ones in HNM LS do. That is main reason why i quit pld, sure you can flame me for being a jerky pld but i'm not the only one, remember that. Look on the flame pages and tell me how many middle levelled ppl are being flames in the past. There are plenty, just cause you dun like me doesn't mean you had to dig out all my bad qualities and turned it against me. And lastly as i stated in previous post, i never had a grudge on you, i only had arguments with kirayamato, why do you hate me so much?
 
No, I don't have the Promyvions done. Why? Because of Cookiecuttering.

I refuse to level ninja, ranger, and any mage job outside of subable levels for BST, just because people don't want to do things any way but the easy way. This is why I hate people who take the easy road, it's not just you. I'm very bitter on the inside, but I'm polite about it. Theres only a few people I will speak out against, and they are the people that are incompentent inside themselves, that they drag others down just because they want to succeed without putting in their all(Dellionhart for example.) Or people who want to take the shortcuts, to get things done, because their too worried about themselves. This is an MMO. It's essentially a giant interractive chat room. It is social interractivety.
 
Good post there skaw.

Well I end up this arguement because of you. You asked for it so face the counsequences of saying my name.

I have every right to defend my name and this may lead to your misery.
 
Kirayamato said:
Good post there skaw.

Well I end up this arguement because of you. You asked for it so face the counsequences of saying my name.

I have every right to defend my name and this may lead to your misery.

I never said you cannot defend yourself :D
When i wrote your name, i knew you would reply so i'm not surprised.
 
Meastoso I applaude you for your restraint and clarity in your posting. It's a good example of how to reply to threads like this.

You've said all you needed to, so don't feel you have to defend yourself anymore then you have. I plan to start my SMN after all my other jobs, and with all his avatars from level one.

If you're still playing at that time I will definately look you up for P2H.
 
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